Jean a étudié pour être bête. (John has been to school to learn to be a fool.)

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is French often shorter (by number of characters) than the English equivalent?

......... in general, French tends to be more concise than English. This is due to a number of factors, including:

The use of agglutinative morphology. In agglutinative languages, like French, words are formed by adding affixes to a root word. This can result in shorter words than in languages that use fusional morphology, like English. For example, the French word "aimer" (to love) is shorter than the English word "love".

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The use of auxiliary verbs. French uses auxiliary verbs more often than English. This can also result in shorter sentences, as the auxiliary verb can carry the meaning of the main verb. For example, the French sentence "Je vais manger" (I am going to eat) is shorter than the English sentence "I am going to eat".

---------------- Good point.

The use of contractions. French uses contractions more often than English. This can also result in shorter sentences. For example, the French sentence "Je ne sais pas" (I don't know) is shorter than the English sentence "I do not know".
---------------- Bad example.

Of course, there are also many cases where the English translation is longer than the French original. This is often due to the fact that English has a larger vocabulary than French. For example, the English word "love" can have a variety of meanings, depending on the context. This can make it difficult to find a single French word that can accurately translate all of the meanings of the English word.

Overall, it is not possible to say definitively whether French is always shorter than English. There are many factors that can affect the length of a sentence or phrase, and the two languages can be equally concise or verbose depending on the context.

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 3:54:07 PM UTC-7, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> Jean a étudié pour être bête. (John has been to school to learn to be a fool.)

Like at school John become a fool?
> ___________________________________
> is French often shorter (by number of characters) than the English equivalent?
>
>
> ......... in general, French tends to be more concise than English. This is due to a number of factors, including:

Arguably.

> The use of agglutinative morphology. In agglutinative languages, like French, words are formed by adding affixes to a root word. This can result in shorter words than in languages > that use fusional morphology, like English. For example, the French word "aimer" (to love) is shorter than the English word "love".

Arguably.

> The use of auxiliary verbs. French uses auxiliary verbs more often than English. This can also result in shorter sentences, as the auxiliary verb can carry the meaning of the main
> verb. For example, the French sentence "Je vais manger" (I am going to eat) is shorter than the English sentence "I am going to eat".

Shorter than "i'll eat'? or even 'I 'mo eat'?

> ---------------- Good point.
>
>
> The use of contractions. French uses contractions more often than English.. This can also result in shorter sentences. For example, the French sentence "Je ne sais pas" (I don't know) is shorter than the English sentence "I do not know".
> ---------------- Bad example.
>
>
> Of course, there are also many cases where the English translation is longer than the French original. This is often due to the fact that English has a larger vocabulary than French. For example, the English word "love" can have a variety of meanings, depending on the context. This can make it difficult to find a single French word that can accurately translate all of the meanings of the English word.
>
>
>
> Overall, it is not possible to say definitively whether French is always shorter than English. There are many factors that can affect the length of a sentence or phrase, and the two languages can be equally concise or verbose depending on the context.

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 5:58:36 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 3:54:07 PM UTC-7, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Jean a étudié pour être bête. (John has been to school to learn to be a fool.)
> Like at school John become a fool?
> > ___________________________________
> > is French often shorter (by number of characters) than the English equivalent?
> >
> >
> > ......... in general, French tends to be more concise than English. This is due to a number of factors, including:
> Arguably.
> > The use of agglutinative morphology. In agglutinative languages, like French, words are formed by adding affixes to a root word. This can result in shorter words than in languages > that use fusional morphology, like English. For example, the French word "aimer" (to love) is shorter than the English word "love".
> Arguably.
> > The use of auxiliary verbs. French uses auxiliary verbs more often than English. This can also result in shorter sentences, as the auxiliary verb can carry the meaning of the main
> > verb. For example, the French sentence "Je vais manger" (I am going to eat) is shorter than the English sentence "I am going to eat".
> Shorter than "i'll eat'? or even 'I 'mo eat'?

'I 'mo eat' ---------- is that English ?

i have this great anthology of French stories... (Balzac, Flaubert, Gide, Camus....)

French text on the left side --- English text on the right side
(same typeface, same size)

i'd say that....
French is consistently shorter (by number of characters) than the English equivalent
by 5% or so....

However, i should point out that.............

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 6:12:18 PM UTC-7, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 5:58:36 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 3:54:07 PM UTC-7, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Jean a étudié pour être bête. (John has been to school to learn to be a fool.)
> > Like at school John become a fool?
> > > ___________________________________
> > > is French often shorter (by number of characters) than the English equivalent?
> > >
> > >
> > > ......... in general, French tends to be more concise than English. This is due to a number of factors, including:
> > Arguably.
> > > The use of agglutinative morphology. In agglutinative languages, like French, words are formed by adding affixes to a root word. This can result in shorter words than in languages > that use fusional morphology, like English. For example, the French word "aimer" (to love) is shorter than the English word "love".
> > Arguably.
> > > The use of auxiliary verbs. French uses auxiliary verbs more often than English. This can also result in shorter sentences, as the auxiliary verb can carry the meaning of the main
> > > verb. For example, the French sentence "Je vais manger" (I am going to eat) is shorter than the English sentence "I am going to eat".
> > Shorter than "i'll eat'? or even 'I 'mo eat'?
> 'I 'mo eat' ---------- is that English ?

immo? or imma? as a verb:
-- https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/130911/what-exactly-is-imma

On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 6:12:18 PM UTC-7, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 5:58:36 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 3:54:07 PM UTC-7, henh...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > > Jean a étudié pour être bête. (John has been to school to learn to be a fool.)
> > > Like at school John become a fool?
> > > > ___________________________________
> > > > is French often shorter (by number of characters) than the English equivalent?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ......... in general, French tends to be more concise than English. This is due to a number of factors, including:
> > > Arguably.
> > > > The use of agglutinative morphology. In agglutinative languages, like French, words are formed by adding affixes to a root word. This can result in shorter words than in languages > that use fusional morphology, like English. For example, the French word "aimer" (to love) is shorter than the English word "love".
> > > Arguably.
> > > > The use of auxiliary verbs. French uses auxiliary verbs more often than English. This can also result in shorter sentences, as the auxiliary verb can carry the meaning of the main
> > > > verb. For example, the French sentence "Je vais manger" (I am going to eat) is shorter than the English sentence "I am going to eat".

> > > Shorter than "i'll eat'? or even 'I 'mo eat'?

> > 'I 'mo eat' ---------- is that English ?

> immo? or imma? as a verb:
> -- https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/130911/what-exactly-is-imma

ok.. if i'd heard it, i'd've recognized it with no problems.

>>> In 2010, linguist Neal Whitman wrote it's the Prime Time for "Imma" commenting on its use in pop lyrics.

then it was Prime Time for IMA in social media.

>>> What Does IMA Mean? IMA is a slang abbreviation that has two primary meanings: “I Am (Going To)” and “I Must Admit.” In spoken and online or text message conversations, IMA is used to casually express an intention to do something or to emphasize a point of view.

---------- i'm and was thinking of a 3rd meaning.

On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 5:53:34 PM UTC-7, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 6:12:18 PM UTC-7, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 5:58:36 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 3:54:07 PM UTC-7, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > Jean a étudié pour être bête. (John has been to school to learn to be a fool.)
> > > > Like at school John become a fool?
> > > > > ___________________________________
> > > > > is French often shorter (by number of characters) than the English equivalent?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ......... in general, French tends to be more concise than English. This is due to a number of factors, including:
> > > > Arguably.
> > > > > The use of agglutinative morphology. In agglutinative languages, like French, words are formed by adding affixes to a root word. This can result in shorter words than in languages > that use fusional morphology, like English. For example, the French word "aimer" (to love) is shorter than the English word "love".
> > > > Arguably.
> > > > > The use of auxiliary verbs. French uses auxiliary verbs more often than English. This can also result in shorter sentences, as the auxiliary verb can carry the meaning of the main
> > > > > verb. For example, the French sentence "Je vais manger" (I am going to eat) is shorter than the English sentence "I am going to eat".
>
>
> > > > Shorter than "i'll eat'? or even 'I 'mo eat'?
>
>
> > > 'I 'mo eat' ---------- is that English ?
>
>
> > immo? or imma? as a verb:
> > -- https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/130911/what-exactly-is-imma
> ok.. if i'd heard it, i'd've recognized it with no problems.
>
>
> >>> In 2010, linguist Neal Whitman wrote it's the Prime Time for "Imma" commenting on its use in pop lyrics.
>
>
>
> then it was Prime Time for IMA in social media.
>
>
> >>> What Does IMA Mean? IMA is a slang abbreviation that has two primary meanings: “I Am (Going To)” and “I Must Admit.” In spoken and online or text message conversations, IMA is used to casually express an intention to do something or to emphasize a point of view.
>
>
> ---------- i'm and was thinking of a 3rd meaning.

A female first name.

On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 8:04:30 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 5:53:34 PM UTC-7, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 6:12:18 PM UTC-7, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 5:58:36 PM UTC-7, bruce bowser wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 3:54:07 PM UTC-7, henh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > Jean a étudié pour être bête. (John has been to school to learn to be a fool.)
> > > > > Like at school John become a fool?
> > > > > > ___________________________________
> > > > > > is French often shorter (by number of characters) than the English equivalent?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ......... in general, French tends to be more concise than English. This is due to a number of factors, including:
> > > > > Arguably.
> > > > > > The use of agglutinative morphology. In agglutinative languages, like French, words are formed by adding affixes to a root word. This can result in shorter words than in languages > that use fusional morphology, like English. For example, the French word "aimer" (to love) is shorter than the English word "love".
> > > > > Arguably.
> > > > > > The use of auxiliary verbs. French uses auxiliary verbs more often than English. This can also result in shorter sentences, as the auxiliary verb can carry the meaning of the main
> > > > > > verb. For example, the French sentence "Je vais manger" (I am going to eat) is shorter than the English sentence "I am going to eat".
> >
> >
> > > > > Shorter than "i'll eat'? or even 'I 'mo eat'?
> >
> >
> > > > 'I 'mo eat' ---------- is that English ?
> >
> >
> > > immo? or imma? as a verb:
> > > -- https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/130911/what-exactly-is-imma
> > ok.. if i'd heard it, i'd've recognized it with no problems.
> >
> >
> > >>> In 2010, linguist Neal Whitman wrote it's the Prime Time for "Imma" commenting on its use in pop lyrics.
> >
> >
> >
> > then it was Prime Time for IMA in social media.
> >
> >
> > >>> What Does IMA Mean? IMA is a slang abbreviation that has two primary meanings: “I Am (Going To)” and “I Must Admit.” In spoken and online or text message conversations, IMA is used to casually express an intention to do something or to emphasize a point of view.
> >
> >
> > ---------- i'm and was thinking of a 3rd meaning.
> A female first name.

is it really? like Uma ?

i was thinking of IAMA

What does IAmA mean Reddit? --------> The IAmA (as in I am a _____, Ask Me Anything) Community is a place on Reddit where a new kind of crowdsourced interview can happen, which we call an Ask Me Anything. The interviewee begins the process by starting a post, describing who they are and what they do.

Le lundi 21 août 2023 à 00:54:07 UTC+2, henh...@gmail.com a écrit :

>
> Overall, it is not possible to say definitively whether French is always shorter than English. There are many factors that can affect the length of a sentence or phrase, and the two languages can be equalIMly concise or verbose depending on the context.
IMO English tends to shorter than French.

On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 11:57:30 PM UTC-7, Arnaud Fournet wrote:
> Le lundi 21 août 2023 à 00:54:07 UTC+2, henh...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
>
> >
> > Overall, it is not possible to say definitively whether French is always shorter than English. There are many factors that can affect the length of a sentence or phrase, and the two languages can be equalIMly concise or verbose depending on the context.

> IMO English tends to shorter than French.

Sure, if you compare Hemingway to Proust.

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i have this great anthology of French stories... (Balzac, Flaubert, Gide, Camus....)

French text on the left side --- English text on the right side
(same typeface, same size)

i'd say that....
French is consistently shorter (by number of characters) than the English equivalent
by 5% or so....

If this is GENERALLY true, one could say that French text is more efficient.

However, i should point out that (the matter of the diacritical marks in French) .............