Thanks, Francesca! --marc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqzTNASkTCs Cooper the chimp
swimming, diving and jumping into water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q916J6rzqno chimpanzee fully immersed and submerged

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmhd2sUOZoY @7.57 and @10.04 adult chimp swimming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsXQ913MOEY wild chimpanzees going into water

littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks, Francesca! --marc
>

Buy this 2024 calendar and look at it everytime you think
there's something special about an animal swimming!

<https://www.calendars.com/shop/underwater-puppies-by-seth-casteel-2024-mini-wall-calendar/202400001119>

kudu runner who believes swim=dive:

> Buy this 2024 calendar and look at it everytime you think
> there's something special about an animal swimming!
> <https://www.calendars.com/shop/underwater-puppies-by-seth-casteel-2024-mini-wall-calendar/202400001119>

Primum Sapienti wrote:

> Buy this 2024 calendar and look at

We had to evolve in an environment that consistently supplied
large amounts of DHA. No, it was not necessary for all
populations to do so, but the one that all humans can trace
their ancestry to, had to evolve in such an environment. And
that wasn't a savanna. It wasn't a forest, either.

-- --

https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/727701377221083136

littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> kudu runner who believes swim=dive:
>
>> Buy this 2024 calendar and look at it everytime you think
>> there's something special about an animal swimming!
>> <https://www.calendars.com/shop/underwater-puppies-by-seth-casteel-2024-mini-wall-calendar/202400001119>

Snorkel noser who doesn't realize that the subject line
says "swimming" and that they are swimming under water...

JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
> Primum Sapienti wrote:
>
>> Buy this 2024 calendar and look at
>
> We had to evolve in an environment that consistently supplied
> large amounts of DHA. No, it was not necessary for all
> populations to do so, but the one that all humans can trace
> their ancestry to, had to evolve in such an environment. And
> that wasn't a savanna. It wasn't a forest, either.
>

What about the millions, billions actually, without
fish in their diet?

Primum Sapienti wrote:

> JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
> > Primum Sapienti wrote:
> >
> >> Buy this 2024 calendar and look at
> >
> > We had to evolve in an environment that consistently supplied
> > large amounts of DHA. No, it was not necessary for all
> > populations to do so, but the one that all humans can trace
> > their ancestry to, had to evolve in such an environment. And
> > that wasn't a savanna. It wasn't a forest, either.

> What about the millions, billions actually, without
> fish in their diet?

This accounts for the smaller brains in so called "Moderns"
today, as well as all the stupid people.

Take you, for example.

Seconds, not minutes but seconds on Google could find you
plenty of cites talking about how many people are not getting
enough DHA in their diets.

AND WE'RE SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER AT SYNTHESIZING IT
THAN OUR ANCESTORS WOULD HAVE BEEN!

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https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/730359491090169856

some snorkel nose wrote:
> Some kudu runner:
>
>> What about the millions, billions actually, without
>> fish in their diet?
>
> :-DDD My little little boy, nobody doubt H.sapiens=terrestrial... :-DDD
> Grow up:
> https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/
>

What about the millions, billions actually, without
fish in their diet?

Primum Sapienti wrote:

> What about the millions, billions actually, without
> fish in their diet?

Well, as I had JUST answered you:

This accounts for the smaller brains in so called "Moderns"
today, as well as all the stupid people.

Take you, for example.

Seconds, not minutes but seconds on Google could find you
plenty of cites talking about how many people are not getting
enough DHA in their diets.

AND WE'RE SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER AT SYNTHESIZING IT
THAN OUR ANCESTORS WOULD HAVE BEEN!

You could read it this time. You could. You should. But you're
too busy protecting dogma.

-- --

https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/732735640787107840

kudu runner:
> > What about the millions, billions actually, without
> > fish in their diet?

:-DDD
What about the billions without antelope in their diet??
Only incredible imbeciles stll believe their ancestors ran after antelopes... :-D

JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
>

[OCPD]

Yeah, the FBI has been informed about you... can't
take any risks.

So, anyway, you are a blithering idiot, quoting
things you never read, much less understood, and
that's why you can't answer even basis questions.

littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> kudu runner:
>>> What about the millions, billions actually, without
>>> fish in their diet?
>
> :-DDD
> What about the billions without antelope in their diet??

They have other meat resources.

> Only incredible imbeciles stll believe their ancestors ran after antelopes... :-D

Only complete morons think humans have snorkel noses.

> > kudu runner:
> >>> What about the millions, billions actually, without
> >>> fish in their diet?

> > :-DDD What about the billions without antelope in their diet??

> They have other meat resources.

Chicken? mammoth?
Today's humans are rice-eaters (grows in shallow water :-))

> > Only incredible imbeciles stll believe their ancestors ran after antelopes... :-D

kudu runner:
> Only complete morons think humans have snorkel noses.

:-D Only complete morons fantasize their ancestors ran after antelopes...

There's 0 doubt early-Pleist.H.erectus on Java were shellfish divers:
There are numerous *independent* indications Indonesian H.erectus were predom.molluscivorous early-Pleist., e.g.
• Archaic Homo's atypical tooth-wear caused by "sand and oral processing of marine mollusks" Towle cs 2022 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.24500
• H.erectus s.s. = coastal fossilisation: Mojokerto barnacles + corals, Trinil Pseudodon + Elongaria (edible shellfish), Sangiran-17 "brackish marsh near the coast" etc.
• Stephen Munro discovered sea-shell engravings made by H.erectus, Joordens cs 2015 Nature 518:228–231 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25470048/
• Ear exostoses (H.erectus & H.neand.) develop after years of cold(er) water irrigation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5696936/
• Pachy-osteo-sclerosis = always & only: slow+shallow-diving tetrapods (de Buffrénil cs 2010 J.Mamm.Evol.17:101-120), e.g. erectus’ parietal bone is 2x as thick as in gorillas.
• Brain size in erectus (2x apes/australopiths) is facilitated by aquatic foods, e.g. DHA docosahexaenoic acid in shellfish… cf. Odontocetes, Pinnipedia, Enhydra.
• Platycephaly in erectus/neand.: long flat dorsally-placed brain-skull = hydrodynamic streamline, google GondwanaTalks Verhaegen English
• Pleist.descendants/relatives colonized islands far oversea, e.g. Flores, Luzon https://www.academia.edu/36193382/Coastal_Dispersal_of_Pleistocene_Homo_2018
• Homo’s stone tool use & dexterity is typical for molluscivores, e.g. sea-otters

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 04:27:17 -0800 (PST), Marc Verhaegen
<m_verhaegen@skynet.be> wrote:

>> > kudu runner:
>> >>> What about the millions, billions actually, without
>> >>> fish in their diet?
>
>> > :-DDD What about the billions without antelope in their diet??
>
>> They have other meat resources.
>
>Chicken? mammoth?
>Today's humans are rice-eaters (grows in shallow water :-))

Today's humans have grains as staple food (wheat, barley, maize, oats,
rye, rice, etc), all grass seeds (Poaceae).
And bovids are still an important source of animal protein.

Some idiot:

> And bovids are still an important source of animal protein.

still??
:-DDD

Ape+human evolution, google e.g.
- aquarboreal
- GondwanaTalks Verhaegene English
- David Attenborough Marc Verhaegen

Pandora wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 04:27:17 -0800 (PST), Marc Verhaegen
> <m_verhaegen@skynet.be> wrote:
>
>>>> kudu runner:
>>>>>> What about the millions, billions actually, without
>>>>>> fish in their diet?
>>
>>>> :-DDD What about the billions without antelope in their diet??
>>
>>> They have other meat resources.
>>
>> Chicken? mammoth?
>> Today's humans are rice-eaters (grows in shallow water :-))
>
> Today's humans have grains as staple food (wheat, barley, maize, oats,
> rye, rice, etc), all grass seeds (Poaceae).
> And bovids are still an important source of animal protein.
>

Correct.