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by: JTEM is so reasonabl - Sat, 4 Nov 2023 03:44 UTC

The good Doctor will like this, if he hasn't seen it
already. It's not about how close or far away his
position is, it's what you can mine from his talks.

Oddly, Wolpoff was NOT an advocate of Aquatic Ape,
least not publicly, not when I discovered him, but his
ideas were to send me careening off the path of the
status quo, firmly to the Waterside.

And, yes, I now see his Multi Regionalism as fully
compatible with Aquatic Ape...

https://youtu.be/a7qmLqv_7hc?feature=shared

It's no longer than any WHATTALKS video, if not a
bit shorter, so enjoy!

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by: Marc Verhaegen - Sat, 4 Nov 2023 12:41 UTC

Op zaterdag 4 november 2023 om 04:44:40 UTC+1 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:
> The good Doctor will like this, if he hasn't seen it
> already. It's not about how close or far away his
> position is, it's what you can mine from his talks.
> Oddly, Wolpoff was NOT an advocate of Aquatic Ape,
> least not publicly, not when I discovered him, but his
> ideas were to send me careening off the path of the
> status quo, firmly to the Waterside.
> And, yes, I now see his Multi Regionalism as fully
> compatible with Aquatic Ape...
> https://youtu.be/a7qmLqv_7hc?feature=shared
> It's no longer than any WHATTALKS video, if not a
> bit shorter, so enjoy!

I did not enjoy it, JTEM:
-- still afrocentric prejudices:
but our Pliocene Homo (Yohn cs 2005 PLoS Biol.3:1):
they followed the N-Ind.Ocean coasts -> Java: shellfish-diving!
-- still anthropocentric prejudices:
they believe all "hominins" = "human ancestors",
but didn't low- & highland gorillas & chimps & bonobos have ancestors??

My hypothesis is simple:
the late-Miocene hominid LCA was BP in Red Sea forests,
google "aquarboreal" (vertical wading+climbing).
8-7 Ma, Praeanthropus=Gorilla followed the N-Rift -> Afar.
6-5 Ma, the Red Sea opened into the Gulf of Aden:
- Australopithecus=Pan -> right -> W-Ind.Ocean coast -> S-Rift -> Transvaal,
- Homo -> left -> N-Id.Ocean coast -> Java H.erectus = shellfish-diving.

E- & S-Afr.australopiths largely evolved in parallel: Gorilla//Pan:
schematically: from aquarboreal to knuckle-walking:
late-Pliocene graciles -> early-Pleist.robusts -> late-Pleist.Afr.apes KWing:
- Gorilla afarensis->boisei->gorilla //
- Pan africanus->robustus->paniscus/trogl.

IOW, hominids had to split in (at least) 3 genera (G, P, H):
they were geographically isolated.

Subject	Author
My Journey to Waterside Evolution: Wolpoff	JTEM is so reasonable
My Journey to Waterside Evolution: Wolpoff	Marc Verhaegen