On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 3:47:40 PM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op dinsdag 2 mei 2023 om 20:10:46 UTC+2 schreef James McGinn:
>
> ??
>
> Thanks for agreeing:
> Traditional PAs short-sightedly "reasoned" illogically like this:
> "Pan & Gorilla are African, quadrupedal & forest-dwelling, but Homo is bipedal on the ground,
> "hence" we became BP when we left the forest for (in Africa!) the savanna".
> Egocentric nonsense, of course (but which fossil hunter prefers to find a fossil Gorilla ancestor rather than a fossil Homo??):
> -- Plio-Pleistocene "hominin" fossils in Africa (although BP -- but *all* early apes were BP, google "aquarboreal") much more resemble Pan or Gorilla than Homo (e.g. my Hum.Evol.papers).
> -- Our Pliocene ancestors were not even in Africa (e.g. H.sapiens lacks Pliocene African retrovirus, see Benveniste 1976, Yohn 2005): Pliocene Homo simply followed S.Asian coasts, evt. as far as Java, Flores etc.
> -- Early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP (in swamp forests, google "aquarboreal") -- not only humans but also gibbons & siamangs are still BP.
> -- Etc.
>
> 1) Out-of-Africa = nonsense (late-Miocene: out of Red Sea?).
> 2) Human apith ancestors = nonsense.
> 3) Savanna evolution = incredible nonsense.
> 4) BP "hominin" = nonsense.
> 5) Hunting ancestors = nonsense.
> 6) Endurance running = stupid nonsense:
> we evolved from Mio-Pliocene wading-climbing Hominoidea to early-Pleistocene molluscivorous archaic Homo:
> early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP, google "aquarboreal".
> We've *always* been waterside, since the Miocene, never savanna, e.g.
> https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

Op woensdag 17 mei 2023 om 19:52:25 UTC+2 schreef James McGinn:

> > Traditional PAs short-sightedly "reasoned" illogically like this:
> > "Pan & Gorilla are African, quadrupedal & forest-dwelling, but Homo is bipedal on the ground,
> > "hence" we became BP when we left the forest for (in Africa!) the savanna".
> > Egocentric nonsense, of course (but which fossil hunter prefers to find a fossil Gorilla ancestor rather than a fossil Homo??):
> > -- Plio-Pleistocene "hominin" fossils in Africa (although BP -- but *all* early apes were BP, google "aquarboreal") much more resemble Pan or Gorilla than Homo (e.g. my Hum.Evol.papers).
> > -- Our Pliocene ancestors were not even in Africa (e.g. H.sapiens lacks Pliocene African retrovirus, see Benveniste 1976, Yohn 2005): Pliocene Homo simply followed S.Asian coasts, evt. as far as Java, Flores etc.
> > -- Early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP (in swamp forests, google "aquarboreal") -- not only humans but also gibbons & siamangs are still BP. ...

> > 1) Out-of-Africa = nonsense (late-Miocene: out of Red Sea?).
> > 2) Human apith ancestors = nonsense.
> > 3) Savanna evolution = incredible nonsense.
> > 4) BP "hominin" = nonsense.
> > 5) Hunting ancestors = nonsense.
> > 6) Endurance running = stupid nonsense:
> > we evolved from Mio-Pliocene wading-climbing Hominoidea to early-Pleistocene molluscivorous archaic Homo:
> > early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP, google "aquarboreal".
> > We've *always* been waterside, since the Miocene, never savanna, e.g.
> > https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

Thanks for agreeing, James! :-)

On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 2:59:17 PM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op woensdag 17 mei 2023 om 19:52:25 UTC+2 schreef James McGinn:
> > > Traditional PAs short-sightedly "reasoned" illogically like this:
> > > "Pan & Gorilla are African, quadrupedal & forest-dwelling, but Homo is bipedal on the ground,
> > > "hence" we became BP when we left the forest for (in Africa!) the savanna".
> > > Egocentric nonsense, of course (but which fossil hunter prefers to find a fossil Gorilla ancestor rather than a fossil Homo??):
> > > -- Plio-Pleistocene "hominin" fossils in Africa (although BP -- but *all* early apes were BP, google "aquarboreal") much more resemble Pan or Gorilla than Homo (e.g. my Hum.Evol.papers).
> > > -- Our Pliocene ancestors were not even in Africa (e.g. H.sapiens lacks Pliocene African retrovirus, see Benveniste 1976, Yohn 2005): Pliocene Homo simply followed S.Asian coasts, evt. as far as Java, Flores etc.
> > > -- Early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP (in swamp forests, google "aquarboreal") -- not only humans but also gibbons & siamangs are still BP.. ...
> > > 1) Out-of-Africa = nonsense (late-Miocene: out of Red Sea?).
> > > 2) Human apith ancestors = nonsense.
> > > 3) Savanna evolution = incredible nonsense.
> > > 4) BP "hominin" = nonsense.
> > > 5) Hunting ancestors = nonsense.
> > > 6) Endurance running = stupid nonsense:
> > > we evolved from Mio-Pliocene wading-climbing Hominoidea to early-Pleistocene molluscivorous archaic Homo:
> > > early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP, google "aquarboreal".
> > > We've *always* been waterside, since the Miocene, never savanna, e.g.
> > > https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/
> Thanks for agreeing, James! :-)

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 11:09:25 AM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote:
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 10:45:44 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > kudu runner's *only* argument:
> > > Fuck you. Answer the fucking question, asshole.
> > :-DDD
> > https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/
>
> There's no running after Kudu in my scenario, you dishonest piece of shit..
>
> How Human actually evolved:
> https://youtu.be/Z7TwiVul7F0

Savanna believer:

> > There's no running after Kudu in my scenario, you dishonest piece of shit.

:-DDD

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 10:45:44 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> kudu runner's *only* argument:
> > Fuck you. Answer the fucking question, asshole.
> :-DDD
> https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

There's no running after Kudu in my scenario, you dishonest piece of shit.

How Human actually evolved:
https://youtu.be/Z7TwiVul7F0

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 11:09:25 AM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote:
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 10:45:44 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > kudu runner's *only* argument:
> > > Fuck you. Answer the fucking question, asshole.
> > :-DDD
> > https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/
>
> There's no running after Kudu in my scenario, you dishonest piece of shit..
>
> How Human actually evolved:
> https://youtu.be/Z7TwiVul7F0

typical kudu runner's "argument":

> There's no running after Kudu in my scenario, you dishonest piece of shit.

:-DDD

On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 1:46:13 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> typical kudu runner's "argument":
> > There's no running after Kudu in my scenario, you dishonest piece of shit.
> :-DDD

On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 3:26:18 PM UTC-7, Claudius Denk wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 1:46:13 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail..com wrote:
> > typical kudu runner's "argument":
> > > There's no running after Kudu in my scenario, you dishonest piece of shit.
> > :-DDD

Op woensdag 26 april 2023 om 16:18:44 UTC+2 schreef James McGinn:
> On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 3:26:18 PM UTC-7, Claudius Denk wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 1:46:13 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > typical kudu runner's "argument":
> > > > There's no running after Kudu in my scenario, you dishonest piece of shit.
> > > :-DDD

Traditional PAs short-sightedly "reasoned" illogically like this:
"Pan & Gorilla are African, quadrupedal & forest-dwelling, but Homo is bipedal on the ground,
"hence" we became BP when we left the forest for (in Africa!) the savanna".

Egocentric nonsense, of course (who prefers to find a gorilla ancestor rather than a human ancestor??):
-- Plio-Pleistocene "hominin" fossils in Africa (although BP -- but *all* early apes were BP, google "aquarboreal") much more resemble Pan or Gorilla than Homo (e.g. my Hum.Evol.papers).
-- Our Pliocene ancestors were not even in Africa (e.g. H.sapiens lacks Pliocene African retrovirus, see Benveniste 1976, Yohn 2005): most likely Pliocene Homo followed S.Asian coasts.
-- Early-Miocene Hominoidea ("apes") were already BP (in swamp forests, google "aquarboreal") -- not only humans but also gibbons & siamangs are still BP.
-- Early Homo is found as far as Java (H.erectus) & even Flores (18 km oversea).
-- Etc.

1) Out-of-Africa = nonsense.
2) Human apith ancestors = nonsense.
3) Savanna evolution = nonsense.
4) BP "hominin" = nonsense.

Early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP, google "aquarboreal".
We've *always* been waterside, since the Miocene, never savanna, e.g.
https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 8:40:03 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op woensdag 26 april 2023 om 16:18:44 UTC+2 schreef James McGinn:
> > On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 3:26:18 PM UTC-7, Claudius Denk wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 1:46:13 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > typical kudu runner's "argument":
> > > > > There's no running after Kudu in my scenario, you dishonest piece of shit.
> > > > :-DDD
> Traditional PAs short-sightedly "reasoned" illogically like this:
> "Pan & Gorilla are African, quadrupedal & forest-dwelling, but Homo is bipedal on the ground,
> "hence" we became BP when we left the forest for (in Africa!) the savanna".
>
> Egocentric nonsense, of course (who prefers to find a gorilla ancestor rather than a human ancestor??):
> -- Plio-Pleistocene "hominin" fossils in Africa (although BP -- but *all* early apes were BP, google "aquarboreal") much more resemble Pan or Gorilla than Homo (e.g. my Hum.Evol.papers).
> -- Our Pliocene ancestors were not even in Africa (e.g. H.sapiens lacks Pliocene African retrovirus, see Benveniste 1976, Yohn 2005): most likely Pliocene Homo followed S.Asian coasts.
> -- Early-Miocene Hominoidea ("apes") were already BP (in swamp forests, google "aquarboreal") -- not only humans but also gibbons & siamangs are still BP.
> -- Early Homo is found as far as Java (H.erectus) & even Flores (18 km oversea).
> -- Etc.
>
> 1) Out-of-Africa = nonsense.
> 2) Human apith ancestors = nonsense.
> 3) Savanna evolution = nonsense.
> 4) BP "hominin" = nonsense.
>
> Early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP, google "aquarboreal".
> We've *always* been waterside, since the Miocene, never savanna, e.g.
> https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 18:22:21 UTC+2 schreef Claudius Denk:
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 8:40:03 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail..com wrote:

> > Traditional PAs short-sightedly "reasoned" illogically like this:
> > "Pan & Gorilla are African, quadrupedal & forest-dwelling, but Homo is bipedal on the ground,
> > "hence" we became BP when we left the forest for (in Africa!) the savanna".

> > Egocentric nonsense, of course (who prefers to find a gorilla ancestor rather than a human ancestor??):
> > -- Plio-Pleistocene "hominin" fossils in Africa (although BP -- but *all* early apes were BP, google "aquarboreal") much more resemble Pan or Gorilla than Homo (e.g. my Hum.Evol.papers).
> > -- Our Pliocene ancestors were not even in Africa (e.g. H.sapiens lacks Pliocene African retrovirus, see Benveniste 1976, Yohn 2005): most likely Pliocene Homo followed S.Asian coasts.
> > -- Early-Miocene Hominoidea ("apes") were already BP (in swamp forests, google "aquarboreal") -- not only humans but also gibbons & siamangs are still BP.
> > -- Early Homo is found as far as Java (H.erectus) & even Flores (18 km oversea).
> > -- Etc.

> > 1) Out-of-Africa = nonsense.
> > 2) Human apith ancestors = nonsense.
> > 3) Savanna evolution = nonsense.
> > 4) BP "hominin" = nonsense.

> > Early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP, google "aquarboreal".
> > We've *always* been waterside, since the Miocene, never savanna, e.g.
> > https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

Thanks for agreeing...

On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 11:34:17 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 18:22:21 UTC+2 schreef Claudius Denk:
> > On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 8:40:03 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > Traditional PAs short-sightedly "reasoned" illogically like this:
> > > "Pan & Gorilla are African, quadrupedal & forest-dwelling, but Homo is bipedal on the ground,
> > > "hence" we became BP when we left the forest for (in Africa!) the savanna".
>
> > > Egocentric nonsense, of course (who prefers to find a gorilla ancestor rather than a human ancestor??):
> > > -- Plio-Pleistocene "hominin" fossils in Africa (although BP -- but *all* early apes were BP, google "aquarboreal") much more resemble Pan or Gorilla than Homo (e.g. my Hum.Evol.papers).
> > > -- Our Pliocene ancestors were not even in Africa (e.g. H.sapiens lacks Pliocene African retrovirus, see Benveniste 1976, Yohn 2005): most likely Pliocene Homo followed S.Asian coasts.
> > > -- Early-Miocene Hominoidea ("apes") were already BP (in swamp forests, google "aquarboreal") -- not only humans but also gibbons & siamangs are still BP.
> > > -- Early Homo is found as far as Java (H.erectus) & even Flores (18 km oversea).
> > > -- Etc.
>
> > > 1) Out-of-Africa = nonsense.
> > > 2) Human apith ancestors = nonsense.
> > > 3) Savanna evolution = nonsense.
> > > 4) BP "hominin" = nonsense.
>
> > > Early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP, google "aquarboreal".
> > > We've *always* been waterside, since the Miocene, never savanna, e.g.
> > > https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/
> Thanks for agreeing...

Op dinsdag 2 mei 2023 om 20:10:46 UTC+2 schreef James McGinn:

??

Thanks for agreeing:

Traditional PAs short-sightedly "reasoned" illogically like this:
"Pan & Gorilla are African, quadrupedal & forest-dwelling, but Homo is bipedal on the ground,
"hence" we became BP when we left the forest for (in Africa!) the savanna".

Egocentric nonsense, of course (but which fossil hunter prefers to find a fossil Gorilla ancestor rather than a fossil Homo??):
-- Plio-Pleistocene "hominin" fossils in Africa (although BP -- but *all* early apes were BP, google "aquarboreal") much more resemble Pan or Gorilla than Homo (e.g. my Hum.Evol.papers).
-- Our Pliocene ancestors were not even in Africa (e.g. H.sapiens lacks Pliocene African retrovirus, see Benveniste 1976, Yohn 2005): Pliocene Homo simply followed S.Asian coasts, evt. as far as Java, Flores etc.
-- Early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP (in swamp forests, google "aquarboreal") -- not only humans but also gibbons & siamangs are still BP.
-- Etc.

1) Out-of-Africa = nonsense (late-Miocene: out of Red Sea?).
2) Human apith ancestors = nonsense.
3) Savanna evolution = incredible nonsense.
4) BP "hominin" = nonsense.
5) Hunting ancestors = nonsense.
6) Endurance running = stupid nonsense:
we evolved from Mio-Pliocene wading-climbing Hominoidea to early-Pleistocene molluscivorous archaic Homo:
early-Miocene Hominoidea were already BP, google "aquarboreal".
We've *always* been waterside, since the Miocene, never savanna, e.g.
https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 3:01:46 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> Savanna believer:
> > > There's no running after Kudu in my scenario, you dishonest piece of shit.
> :-DDD

There is no savanna in my scenario, moron.

On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:08:47 PM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote:
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 3:01:46 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Savanna believer:
> > > > There's no running after Kudu in my scenario, you dishonest piece of shit.
> > :-DDD
> There is no savanna in my scenario, moron.

somebody:
> > There is no savanna in my scenario, moron.

:-D Why did you think that??

Homo erectus cs = coastal molluscivores:
• Archaic Homo's atypical tooth-wear = caused by "sand & oral processing of marine mollusks", Towle cs 2022 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.24500
• H.erectus s.s. fossilized in Mojokerto-Java amid barnacles + corals = sea-coast.
• H.erectus s.s. fossilized in Trinil with edible shellfish Pseudodon + Elongaria: molluscivore.
• H.erectus s.s. fossilized in Sangiran-17 in a "brackish marsh near the coast".
• Stephen Munro discovered sea-shell engravings made by H.erectus, Joordens cs 2015 Nature 518:228 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25470048/
• Ear exostoses (H.erectus & H.neand.) develop after years of cold(er) water irrigation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5696936/
• Pachy-osteo-sclerosis (He>Hn) indicates slow+shallow-diving (de Buffrénil cs 2010 J.Mamm.Evol.17:101-120), e.g. erectus’ parietal bone is 2x as thick as in gorillas.
• Brain size in erectus (2x apes/australopiths) is facilitated by aquatic foods, e.g. DHA docosahexaenoic acid in shellfish… cf. Odontocetes, Pinnipedia.
• Pleistocene descendants/relatives colonized islands far oversea: fossils Flores & Luzon https://www.academia.edu/36193382/Coastal_Dispersal_of_Pleistocene_Homo_2018
• Homo’s stone tool use & dexterity is typical for molluscivores, e.g. sea-otters.

Coastal + riverside dispersal.

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:25:02 AM UTC-7, Marc Verhaegen wrote:
> somebody:
> > > There is no savanna in my scenario, moron.
> :-D Why did you think that??

Why do I think that? Because of the unrelenting dimwittedness of your responses both now and over the years. This is why I think you are a moron? Any more questions, moron?

Op dinsdag 24 oktober 2023 om 17:47:05 UTC+2 schreef moron:

moron:
> > > > There is no savanna in my scenario, moron.

> > :-D Why did you think that??

> Why do I think that? Because of the unrelenting dimwittedness of your responses both now and over the years. This is why I think you are a moron? Any more questions, moron?

:-DDD

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 11:09:25 AM UTC-7, James McGinn wrote:
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 10:45:44 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
> > kudu runner's *only* argument:
> > > Fuck you. Answer the fucking question, asshole.
> > :-DDD
> > https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/
>
> There's no running after Kudu in my scenario, you dishonest piece of shit..
>
> How Human actually evolved:
> https://youtu.be/Z7TwiVul7F0