https://runningintheusa.com/classic/list/ma/upcoming/marathon

https://worldsmarathons.com/c/marathon/belgium

Primum Sapienti wrote:

> https://runningintheusa.com/classic/list/ma/upcoming/marathon
>
> https://worldsmarathons.com/c/marathon/belgium

Not that Savanna Idiocy is treatable much less curable but, there
wouldn't be marathons if this were typical behavior in humans.

It's BECAUSE such running is A-Typical that we have such
marathons!

But you know what is unquestionably typical?

Walking.

Running is an emergent trait. The physical abilities we evolved in
direct response to selective pressure ALSO lent themselves to
running.

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JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
> Primum Sapienti wrote:
>
>> https://runningintheusa.com/classic/list/ma/upcoming/marathon
>>
>> https://worldsmarathons.com/c/marathon/belgium
>
> Not that Savanna Idiocy is treatable much less curable but, there
> wouldn't be marathons if this were typical behavior in humans.
>
> It's BECAUSE such running is A-Typical that we have such
> marathons!
>
> But you know what is unquestionably typical?
>
> Walking.
>
> Running is an emergent trait. The physical abilities we evolved in
> direct response to selective pressure ALSO lent themselves to
> running.

In the aa world, all they could do is shuffle along
and would have been wiped by predators very quickly.

Birds are bipedal and can run on the ground quickly, but
the rest of the time they WALK.

Swimming and diving are Atypical.

Go look up: hunters and gatherers.

There is no equivalent for swimming and diving.

Primum Sapienti wrote:

> In the aa world, all they could do is shuffle along
> and would have been wiped by predators very quickly.

You need to point the Google thing at: Non sequitur

"Wait. Running is an emergent trait? That means they
were eaten by lions!"

> Birds are bipedal and can run on the ground quickly, but
> the rest of the time they WALK.

Ironically enough, nearly all of bird anatomy is explained
by the fact that they descend from bipedal, terrestrial
dinosaurs that grew feathers or feather like thingies.

"Thingies" is a technical term.

I forget names here but, supposedly the link between
dinosaurs and birds first arose during the course of a
chicken dinner -- noting the similarities.

So, yes, humans really are descended from the Aquatic
Ape the same way that birds are descended from ground
living dinosaurs.

> Swimming and diving are Atypical.

That's not true. Just visit a beach or pool on any clear
summer day.

It's also not true that swimming and diving were ever
required. Aquatic Ape would have it's roots many millions
of years ago -- 10 or 20 million years -- and the good
doctor points to his evidence of diving in, what? Erectus?
Neanderthals?

I'm guessing they could have spent millions of years just
picking up food and eating it -- shellfish, anything beached
they could scavenge. Diving, real diving -- as opposed to
going underwater -- probably arose during interglacials,
as rising sea levels turned lands into islands and blocked
what was otherwise a clear path along the water's edge.

> Go look up: hunters and gatherers.

Okay I did. I didn't see you anywhere.

> There is no equivalent for swimming and diving.

https://youtu.be/rJRrWdUo_DE?feature=shared

It's not entirely unique, but it's certainly close to unique.
So it's something /Almost/ unique to humans and
that requires a DIFFERENT environment or set of
evolutionary pressures on humans, or order for this
behavior to exist in humans but not Chimps or Gorillas.

Aquatic Ape.

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Re: Upcoming marathons in Belgium and Massachusetts

Marc Verhaegen wrote:> Op maandag 5 februari 2024 om 06:08:02 UTC+1
schreef "antelope hunter":
>
>> There is no equivalent for swimming and diving.
>
> Some humans can run 42 km in 2 hours... :-DDD

Many humans can. Many. And also run shorter
distances. Infants run soon after they can walk :=}}}

Marc Verhaegen wrote:
> Op donderdag 15 februari 2024 om 03:03:13 UTC+1 schreef Primum Sapienti:
>
>>>> There is no equivalent for swimming and diving.
>
>>> Some humans can run 42 km in 2 hours... :-DDD
>
>> Many humans can. Many. And also run shorter
>> distances. Infants run soon after they can walk :=}}}
>
> Yes, 42 km in >2 hrs... :-D

And no kudu can run that far :=}

Found those snorkel noses yet?

JTEM is so reasonable wrote:
> Primum Sapienti wrote:
>
>> In the aa world, all they could do is shuffle along
>> and would have been wiped by predators very quickly.
>
> You need to point the Google thing at: Non sequitur
>
> "Wait. Running is an emergent trait? That means they
> were eaten by lions!"

As opposed to being eaten by sharks because we
are terible swimmers and can't breath water?

>> Birds are bipedal and can run on the ground quickly, but
>> the rest of the time they WALK.
>
> Ironically enough, nearly all of bird anatomy is explained
> by the fact that they descend from bipedal, terrestrial
> dinosaurs that grew feathers or feather like thingies.

All aquatic mammals are short limbed quadrupeds.

> "Thingies" is a technical term.

For people who only went to film school.

> I forget names here but, supposedly the link between
> dinosaurs and birds first arose during the course of a
> chicken dinner -- noting the similarities.
>
> So, yes, humans really are descended from the Aquatic
> Ape the same way that birds are descended from ground
> living dinosaurs.

Except that all aquatic mammals are short limbed quadrupeds.

>> Swimming and diving are Atypical.
>
> That's not true. Just visit a beach or pool on any clear
> summer day.

You need a beach or pool? Walkers and runners merely
have to go about their home or go outside. THAT is
typical.

> It's also not true that swimming and diving were ever
> required. Aquatic Ape would have it's roots many millions
> of years ago -- 10 or 20 million years -- and the good
> doctor points to his evidence of diving in, what? Erectus?
> Neanderthals?
>
> I'm guessing they could have spent millions of years just
> picking up food and eating it -- shellfish, anything beached
> they could scavenge. Diving, real diving -- as opposed to
> going underwater -- probably arose during interglacials,
> as rising sea levels turned lands into islands and blocked
> what was otherwise a clear path along the water's edge.

"swimming and diving" not required - there it is, folks!

Then WHAT on Crom's bloody earth would make them aquatic?

>> Go look up: hunters and gatherers.
>
> Okay I did. I didn't see you anywhere.

And you didn't see any swimmers and divers either.

>> There is no equivalent for swimming and diving.
>
> https://youtu.be/rJRrWdUo_DE?feature=shared
>
> It's not entirely unique, but it's certainly close to unique.
> So it's something /Almost/ unique to humans and
> that requires a DIFFERENT environment or set of
> evolutionary pressures on humans, or order for this
> behavior to exist in humans but not Chimps or Gorillas.
>
> Aquatic Ape.

Unique?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLkzM_1fQ9I
Cat fishing under water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nV0CRw2ll4
free diving leopard

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/67/7b/52/677b52ecde6d9a5a608dbb0d8995b513.jpg
tiger diving

https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-puppies-diving-underwater-2014-9
puppies diving

ALL aquatic mammals are short limbed quadrupeds. Not
one otter or beaver or walrus is bipedal.

Primum Sapienti wrote:

> JTEM is so reasonable wrote:

>> "Wait. Running is an emergent trait? That means they
>> were eaten by lions!"
>
> As opposed to being eaten by sharks because we
> are terible swimmers and can't breath water?

Humans aren't terrible swimmers and how is it lions,
hyenas and crocodiles are fine for your inland animals
but sharks are suddenly walking along the shoreline
eating people?

Aquatic Ape is French for "Picking up stuff & eating it."
By the time their behavior was placing them within any
actual risk of shark attack, they were quite capable of
hunting sharks.

The shark population today is under a massive threat,
thanks to the popularity of things like Shark Fin Soup.

>> Ironically enough, nearly all of bird anatomy is explained
>> by the fact that they descend from bipedal, terrestrial
>> dinosaurs that grew feathers or feather like thingies.

> All aquatic mammals are short limbed quadrupeds.

Ah, one of your CONSTANT reminders that you need to pretend
that "Aquatic Ape" means "Monkey Seals."

You're trolling, as always.

When Sediba was falling down a hole, waiting for Lee Berger
to find him..when a juvenile Paranthropus was dying in
South Africa just so an undergraduate could later decide
that it shared "Affinities with" erectus, there were already
human ancestors leaving next-generation tools in China,
telling us that we had yet to unearth the parent population.

Aquatic Ape explains this. You don't.

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