AIG is selling an LS-1 that has its fuselage deliberately cut into at the fin!
Anybody got the straight skinny on this ?
JJ

On 5/17/23 9:48 AM, John Sinclair wrote:
> AIG is selling an LS-1 that has its fuselage deliberately cut into at the fin!
> Anybody got the straight skinny on this ?
> JJ

Is it this one? google "AIG N17EW"

"The vertical had some internal delamination as a result of the ground loop incident. As the damage was subtle, and to prevent a
further incident, the tail boom was cut to insure that the aircraft cannot fly again without the issues being repaired."

On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 8:00:13 AM UTC-7, Sarah Anderson wrote:
> On 5/17/23 9:48 AM, John Sinclair wrote:
> > AIG is selling an LS-1 that has its fuselage deliberately cut into at the fin!
> > Anybody got the straight skinny on this ?
> > JJ
> Is it this one? google "AIG N17EW"
>
> "The vertical had some internal delamination as a result of the ground loop incident. As the damage was subtle, and to prevent a
> further incident, the tail boom was cut to insure that the aircraft cannot fly again without the issues being repaired."

OK, thanks………… I once had a customer bring me a fuselage that he’d cut in half so that he could get it in his truck!
He said, “ you guys can fix anything”, well yeah , but you just added about 8K to the repair bill !
JJ

On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:48:10 AM UTC-4, John Sinclair wrote:
> AIG is selling an LS-1 that has its fuselage deliberately cut into at the fin!
> Anybody got the straight skinny on this ?
> JJ

I have about 500 flight hours in this sailplane that started when I was 14 years old. Flew my first contest and real enjoyed flying this ship. This is the ship that Tim Mara (former Wings and Wheels owner) bailed out of.

I can't understand why you wouldn't cut a hole in the boom vs. cutting control rods and creating a big project???

Real strange!

Tim Hanke
Saratoga Springs, NY

On Wednesday, 17 May 2023 at 23:55:08 UTC+1, Middleline Airfield wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:48:10 AM UTC-4, John Sinclair wrote:
> > AIG is selling an LS-1 that has its fuselage deliberately cut into at the fin!
> > Anybody got the straight skinny on this ?
> > JJ
> I have about 500 flight hours in this sailplane that started when I was 14 years old. Flew my first contest and real enjoyed flying this ship. This is the ship that Tim Mara (former Wings and Wheels owner) bailed out of.
>
> I can't understand why you wouldn't cut a hole in the boom vs. cutting control rods and creating a big project???
>
> Real strange!
>
> Tim Hanke
> Saratoga Springs, NY

Strange indeed

If the damage is inside the fin, it would make much more sense to cut a hole to look at it and access for repair

At one contest, a glider was in the workshop after a couple of groundloops on takeoff, and the fin seemed a bit more floppy sideways than it should be..

They seemed to be a bit puzzled, and I had a look. The rib in the base of the fin had a cutout for the elevator drive push rod to come up through, and there was cracking and delamination extending out from this hole. I then held a vacuum cleaner hose for a while as the man from the factory sanded it..

That's the sort of place to look, not where this one has been cut.

On Thursday, 18 May 2023 at 12:45:58 UTC+1, andy l wrote:
> On Wednesday, 17 May 2023 at 23:55:08 UTC+1, Middleline Airfield wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:48:10 AM UTC-4, John Sinclair wrote:
> > > AIG is selling an LS-1 that has its fuselage deliberately cut into at the fin!
> > > Anybody got the straight skinny on this ?
> > > JJ
> > I have about 500 flight hours in this sailplane that started when I was 14 years old. Flew my first contest and real enjoyed flying this ship. This is the ship that Tim Mara (former Wings and Wheels owner) bailed out of.
> >
> > I can't understand why you wouldn't cut a hole in the boom vs. cutting control rods and creating a big project???
> >
> > Real strange!
> >
> > Tim Hanke
> > Saratoga Springs, NY
> Strange indeed
>
> If the damage is inside the fin, it would make much more sense to cut a hole to look at it and access for repair
>
> At one contest, a glider was in the workshop after a couple of groundloops on takeoff, and the fin seemed a bit more floppy sideways than it should be.
>
> They seemed to be a bit puzzled, and I had a look. The rib in the base of the fin had a cutout for the elevator drive push rod to come up through, and there was cracking and delamination extending out from this hole. I then held a vacuum cleaner hose for a while as the man from the factory sanded it.
>
> That's the sort of place to look, not where this one has been cut.

.... though some gliders may also have a donut shaped frame in the rear of the tail boom, just behind this cut, but even then do it through a hole