The innovative P-Volt electro-plane has been shelved by Tecnam and
Rolls-Royce, as the electrons have come home to roost:

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/advanced-air-mobility/2023-06-14/tecnam-and-rolls-royce-scrap-p-volt-electric-aircraft

“The proliferation of aircraft with 'new' batteries would lead to
unrealistic mission profiles that would quickly degrade after a few
weeks of operation, making the all-electric passenger aircraft a mere
'green transition flagship’ rather than a real player in the
decarbonization of aviation,” Tecnam said.

Apparently you can't make an airplane fly based on greenwashing alone.

However, they may have pulled the plug on this venture a bit too soon,
as word leaks out of an amazing new battery able to pull unlimited power
out of thin air, on humidity alone!

https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/science/technology-humidity-in-air-electricity-8638669/

Someday they'll combine the nanopores and the nanowires, and they'll
really have something!

> https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/science/technology-humidity-in-air-electricity-8638669/
>
> Someday they'll combine the nanopores and the nanowires, and they'll
> really have something!

In the meantime, they have discovered yet another way to pull funding from thin air.

I guess any aircraft powered by one of these batteries would fall out of
the sky the instant it crossed the state line of New Mexico.

Dan
5J

On 6/16/23 08:03, Mark Mocho wrote:
>> https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/science/technology-humidity-in-air-electricity-8638669/
>>
>> Someday they'll combine the nanopores and the nanowires, and they'll
>> really have something!
>
> In the meantime, they have discovered yet another way to pull funding from thin air.

They'd do great in Colorado and Utah, at least this spring. Damn it's
been wet. Climate change strikes again! Sometimes it's dry, sometimes
it's wet.

But today you could even fly a 737:

https://www.avweb.com/recent-updates/business-military/sas-wright-plans-for-electric-737/

On 6/16/23 9:46 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I guess any aircraft powered by one of these batteries would fall out of
> the sky the instant it crossed the state line of New Mexico.
>
> Dan
> 5J
>
> On 6/16/23 08:03, Mark Mocho wrote:
>>> https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/science/technology-humidity-in-air-electricity-8638669/
>>>
>>> Someday they'll combine the nanopores and the nanowires, and they'll
>>> really have something!
>>
>> In the meantime, they have discovered yet another way to pull funding
>> from thin air.

Aviation seems to prove Clarke's 3 laws:
1)When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
2)The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
3)Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 7:03:28 AM UTC-7, Mark Mocho wrote:
> > https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/science/technology-humidity-in-air-electricity-8638669/
> >
So, Ayn Rand turns out to be prescient when she predicted this (back in 1957) in "Atlas Shrugged"? Only it was to drive trains, not airplanes.

And NASA decides that electro-airplanes ain't exactly rocket science, as
they've grounded their X-57 program, before it even got off the ground.
Apparently the potential just wasn't there. This time it wasn't the
batteries, it wasn't the inverter, it was the motors, of all things.

https://www.popsci.com/technology/nasa-cancels-x-57-flight/

On 6/16/23 3:23 PM, s.bral...@gmail.com wrote:
> Aviation seems to prove Clarke's 3 laws:
> 1)When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
> 2)The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
> 3)Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

You're right. Some people might think taking a car, using the left and
right doors as wings, and flying it broadside through the air might not
work. But Lurch has proved them all wrong:

https://www.newsweek.com/alef-flying-car-vehicle-how-works-faa-1810469

"We did the impossible, but we did not break the laws of physics—we
fooled them," Dukhovny said.

Yet another lithium-fueled miracle coming to us from the land of Fruits
and Nuts and Fraudsters. And it'll be here in just two years! Already
FAA certified!

In the works also is a stretch limousine model, for use as a motorglider.

On 7/6/23 8:44 AM, kinsell wrote:
> On 6/16/23 3:23 PM, s.bral...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Aviation seems to prove Clarke's 3 laws:
>> 1)When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is
>> possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something
>> is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
>> 2)The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture
>> a little way past them into the impossible.
>> 3)Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
>
> You're right.  Some people might think taking a car, using the left and
> right doors as wings, and flying it broadside through the air might not
> work.  But Lurch has proved them all wrong:
>
>   https://www.newsweek.com/alef-flying-car-vehicle-how-works-faa-1810469
>
> "We did the impossible, but we did not break the laws of physics—we
> fooled them," Dukhovny said.
>
> Yet another lithium-fueled miracle coming to us from the land of Fruits
> and Nuts and Fraudsters.  And it'll be here in just two years!  Already
> FAA certified!
>
> In the works also is a stretch limousine model, for use as a motorglider.

Presentation gets off to a slow start, the great unveiling starts about
10 minutes in. Audio is a bit dodgy, sounds like a Dave Nadler
presentation at an SSA Convention :-)

You can preorder these today, a $150 deposit saves your place in line,
PayPal accepted. Or, for $1500, you can jump the line and get priority
handling.

Top speed on the ground is claimed to be a whopping 35 mph, which is
fine for driving on L.A. freeways.