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* RV + Trailer OALRoy B.
+* RV + Trailer OALDan Marotta
|`* RV + Trailer OALMark628CA
| +* RV + Trailer OALMark628CA
| |`- RV + Trailer OALSteve Leonard
| +* RV + Trailer OALs.bral...@gmail.com
| |`* RV + Trailer OAL2G
| | `* RV + Trailer OALDan Marotta
| |  `- RV + Trailer OAL2G
| `- RV + Trailer OALDan Marotta
`- RV + Trailer OALGlenn Betzoldt

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 by: Roy B. - Sun, 23 Jul 2023 18:41 UTC

Friends;
We are beginning to think about going to a larger size RV ( my current is 24') and I know that some of you have pretty big Class A units that you use to pull your glider trailers. My question: Are there any overall length restrictions (RV + Trailer) on highways that are out there? Is it a federal issue? Or does it vary from state to state?
Thanks
ROY

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 by: Dan Marotta - Sun, 23 Jul 2023 20:33 UTC

It varies from state to state. When we had an RV I checked into towing
my glider behind my car behind the (24') RV. Not in New Mexico. It was
too long by several feet.

The guy at one of the local trailer sales places told me that he's
gotten a lot of tickets either in Colorado or New Mexico for towing a
rig that's too long transporting trailers from the factory to his sales lot.

Check with the motor vehicle divisions of each state that you plan to
travel through.

Dan
5J

On 7/23/23 12:41, Roy B. wrote:
> Friends;
> We are beginning to think about going to a larger size RV ( my current is 24') and I know that some of you have pretty big Class A units that you use to pull your glider trailers. My question: Are there any overall length restrictions (RV + Trailer) on highways that are out there? Is it a federal issue? Or does it vary from state to state?
> Thanks
> ROY

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 by: Mark628CA - Sun, 23 Jul 2023 21:20 UTC

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:33:30 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> It varies from state to state. When we had an RV I checked into towing
> my glider behind my car behind the (24') RV. Not in New Mexico. It was
> too long by several feet.
>
Dan- That didn't sound right to me, so I looked up the NM Trailer Regulations. It states that the maximum tow vehicle + trailer length is 65 feet, with a max trailer length of 40 ft. So, a 24 ft RV with a typical 32 ft. sailplane trailer is 9 feet under the legal limit. However, I can certainly understand why the NM MVD would tell you differently. The State bureaucracy makes shit up all the time rather than put out the effort to look up the law or regulation. A process they have copied from the FAA (among others.)

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What is the maximum trailer length in New Mexico?
New Mexico Trailer Dimension Laws

Total length: 65 feet; trailer length: 40 feet (includes bumpers); width: 102 inches (allows outside width to exceed 102 inches if the excess is due to an appurtenance); height: 14 feet.

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 by: s.bral...@gmail.com - Mon, 24 Jul 2023 03:13 UTC

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:20:03 PM UTC-7, Mark628CA wrote:
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:33:30 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > It varies from state to state. When we had an RV I checked into towing
> > my glider behind my car behind the (24') RV. Not in New Mexico. It was
> > too long by several feet.
> >
> Dan- That didn't sound right to me, so I looked up the NM Trailer Regulations. It states that the maximum tow vehicle + trailer length is 65 feet, with a max trailer length of 40 ft. So, a 24 ft RV with a typical 32 ft. sailplane trailer is 9 feet under the legal limit. However, I can certainly understand why the NM MVD would tell you differently. The State bureaucracy makes shit up all the time rather than put out the effort to look up the law or regulation. A process they have copied from the FAA (among others.)

Read his posting again. A 24' RV, car and a glider trailer. Not DMV or FAA not putting in the effort to read the posting.

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 by: 2G - Mon, 24 Jul 2023 05:27 UTC

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 8:13:36 PM UTC-7, s.bral...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:20:03 PM UTC-7, Mark628CA wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:33:30 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > It varies from state to state. When we had an RV I checked into towing
> > > my glider behind my car behind the (24') RV. Not in New Mexico. It was
> > > too long by several feet.
> > >
> > Dan- That didn't sound right to me, so I looked up the NM Trailer Regulations. It states that the maximum tow vehicle + trailer length is 65 feet, with a max trailer length of 40 ft. So, a 24 ft RV with a typical 32 ft. sailplane trailer is 9 feet under the legal limit. However, I can certainly understand why the NM MVD would tell you differently. The State bureaucracy makes shit up all the time rather than put out the effort to look up the law or regulation. A process they have copied from the FAA (among others.)
> Read his posting again. A 24' RV, car and a glider trailer. Not DMV or FAA not putting in the effort to read the posting.

That's called double combination towing (triple towing by some). Towing regulations vary by state, so you need to know the laws of EACH state that you tow thru. This explains it reasonably well:
https://rv-roadtrips.thefuntimesguide.com/triple_towing/

Tom 2G

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 by: Glenn Betzoldt - Mon, 24 Jul 2023 11:00 UTC

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:41:38 PM UTC-4, Roy B. wrote:
> Friends;
> We are beginning to think about going to a larger size RV ( my current is 24') and I know that some of you have pretty big Class A units that you use to pull your glider trailers. My question: Are there any overall length restrictions (RV + Trailer) on highways that are out there? Is it a federal issue? Or does it vary from state to state?
> Thanks
> ROY
Roy, get the RV you want and don’t worry about length. A lot of us have big rigs and don’t have any problems, they aren’t looking to bust you. My total length was 73’

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 by: Dan Marotta - Mon, 24 Jul 2023 16:09 UTC

Mark,

You missed the part about trailer behind CAR behind RV - a road train
for our Aussie brethren. Adding the length of my car put the rig over
the limit.

On another topic, I asked NMDOT (Aviation Division) if there was any law
preventing me from landing on public roads. The answer was, "No, just
be careful." I printed that email and carry it in my gyro...

Dan
5J

On 7/23/23 15:20, Mark628CA wrote:
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:33:30 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> It varies from state to state. When we had an RV I checked into towing
>> my glider behind my car behind the (24') RV. Not in New Mexico. It was
>> too long by several feet.
>>
> Dan- That didn't sound right to me, so I looked up the NM Trailer Regulations. It states that the maximum tow vehicle + trailer length is 65 feet, with a max trailer length of 40 ft. So, a 24 ft RV with a typical 32 ft. sailplane trailer is 9 feet under the legal limit. However, I can certainly understand why the NM MVD would tell you differently. The State bureaucracy makes shit up all the time rather than put out the effort to look up the law or regulation. A process they have copied from the FAA (among others.)

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Subject: Re: RV + Trailer OAL
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 by: Dan Marotta - Mon, 24 Jul 2023 16:16 UTC

Thanks for that post, Tom.

OH, and don't try to back that rig up unless you're reeeeeeally good!

Dan
5J

On 7/23/23 23:27, 2G wrote:
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 8:13:36 PM UTC-7, s.bral...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:20:03 PM UTC-7, Mark628CA wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:33:30 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>>> It varies from state to state. When we had an RV I checked into towing
>>>> my glider behind my car behind the (24') RV. Not in New Mexico. It was
>>>> too long by several feet.
>>>>
>>> Dan- That didn't sound right to me, so I looked up the NM Trailer Regulations. It states that the maximum tow vehicle + trailer length is 65 feet, with a max trailer length of 40 ft. So, a 24 ft RV with a typical 32 ft. sailplane trailer is 9 feet under the legal limit. However, I can certainly understand why the NM MVD would tell you differently. The State bureaucracy makes shit up all the time rather than put out the effort to look up the law or regulation. A process they have copied from the FAA (among others.)
>> Read his posting again. A 24' RV, car and a glider trailer. Not DMV or FAA not putting in the effort to read the posting.
>
> That's called double combination towing (triple towing by some). Towing regulations vary by state, so you need to know the laws of EACH state that you tow thru. This explains it reasonably well:
> https://rv-roadtrips.thefuntimesguide.com/triple_towing/
>
> Tom 2G

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 by: Steve Leonard - Wed, 26 Jul 2023 15:24 UTC

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:24:08 PM UTC-5, Mark628CA wrote:
> What is the maximum trailer length in New Mexico?
> New Mexico Trailer Dimension Laws
>
> Total length: 65 feet; trailer length: 40 feet (includes bumpers); width: 102 inches (allows outside width to exceed 102 inches if the excess is due to an appurtenance); height: 14 feet.

I am assuming those numbers don't apply to commercial trucking? Because the standard there now seems to be a 53 foot trailer. And there are literally 10s of thousands of them going across the state every week.

Good to know I was under when pulling my 604 trailer(s) across NM!

Steve Leonard

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 by: 2G - Thu, 27 Jul 2023 00:53 UTC

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 9:17:04 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Thanks for that post, Tom.
>
> OH, and don't try to back that rig up unless you're reeeeeeally good!
>
> Dan
> 5J
> On 7/23/23 23:27, 2G wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 8:13:36 PM UTC-7, s.bral...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:20:03 PM UTC-7, Mark628CA wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:33:30 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> >>>> It varies from state to state. When we had an RV I checked into towing
> >>>> my glider behind my car behind the (24') RV. Not in New Mexico. It was
> >>>> too long by several feet.
> >>>>
> >>> Dan- That didn't sound right to me, so I looked up the NM Trailer Regulations. It states that the maximum tow vehicle + trailer length is 65 feet, with a max trailer length of 40 ft. So, a 24 ft RV with a typical 32 ft. sailplane trailer is 9 feet under the legal limit. However, I can certainly understand why the NM MVD would tell you differently. The State bureaucracy makes shit up all the time rather than put out the effort to look up the law or regulation. A process they have copied from the FAA (among others.)
> >> Read his posting again. A 24' RV, car and a glider trailer. Not DMV or FAA not putting in the effort to read the posting.
> >
> > That's called double combination towing (triple towing by some). Towing regulations vary by state, so you need to know the laws of EACH state that you tow thru. This explains it reasonably well:
> > https://rv-roadtrips.thefuntimesguide.com/triple_towing/
> >
> > Tom 2G

And this guy is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYZXNNAry40
And this guy explains how to do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkyASVHd4xU

Tom


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