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* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.waltco...@aol.com
+* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.stephen.s...@gmail.com
|`* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Eric Greenwell
| `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Moshe Braner
|  `- Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.John Sinclair
`* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.youngbl...@gmail.com
 +* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Hank Nixon
 |+- Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.waltco...@aol.com
 |`- Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Craig Reinholt
 `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.jfitch
  +- Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Dan Marotta
  `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.youngbl...@gmail.com
   `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Craig Reinholt
    +* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.jfitch
    |`- Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.youngbl...@gmail.com
    `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.youngbl...@gmail.com
     `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.jfitch
      `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Dan Marotta
       `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Mark628CA
        `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.youngbl...@gmail.com
         `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Ramy
          +* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.youngbl...@gmail.com
          |+* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Dan Daly
          ||`* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.youngbl...@gmail.com
          || `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.s.bral...@gmail.com
          ||  `- Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.youngbl...@gmail.com
          |`* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Eric Greenwell
          | `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.youngbl...@gmail.com
          |  +* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.s.bral...@gmail.com
          |  |`- Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.youngbl...@gmail.com
          |  `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Eric Greenwell
          |   `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.youngbl...@gmail.com
          |    `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Eric Greenwell
          |     +* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.youngbl...@gmail.com
          |     |+- Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Eric Greenwell
          |     |+- Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Hank Nixon
          |     |`- Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.2G
          |     `- Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.youngbl...@gmail.com
          `* Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.2G
           `- Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.Charles Longley

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Subject: Re: Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.
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 by: youngbl...@gmail.com - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 09:27 UTC

On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 6:36:14 PM UTC-4, s.bral...@gmail.com wrote:
> discussion on it.
> > > > > Yet mixed in this thread are jokes about motorgliders, which only confusing some of the readers who apparently not read the whole thread or Craig’s report.
> > > > > Common folks, this is a serious incident, let’s pay more attention to the facts reported and keep the jokes to other motorglider threads. Just sayin…
> > > > Loosen up Ramy, nothing here offensive to anyone, just a few laughs and short jabs. OBTP
> > > I agree with Ramy. Discussion of flight safety incidents/accidents are serious, and not the place for "a few laughs and short jabs".
> > Dan, there is nothing here that takes away from the serious aspects of the event! Everyone is entitled to their opinions and postings, sorry that you don't see it that way. There are many comments referencing the event that are humorous, they are also teachable moments contained within. Bob
> I'm sure the injured pilot is enjoying the "few laughs and short jabs" he was able to supply with his accident.
>
> Steve
Hopefully so Steve, a few laughs will go a long way. OBTP

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Subject: Re: Good thing he had an EJECTION seat in his motor glider.
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 by: 2G - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 04:20 UTC

On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 6:56:46 PM UTC-7, Ramy wrote:
> Reading this thread, I find a report on a serious incident resulted from spin which developed into spiral, with the pilot alive thanks to recently deciding to take emergency parachutes seriously. There are important lessons to learn from such incident. Why was the spin developed into spiral dive? Pilot error? Aft CG? Good discussion on it.
> Yet mixed in this thread are jokes about motorgliders, which only confusing some of the readers who apparently not read the whole thread or Craig’s report.
> Common folks, this is a serious incident, let’s pay more attention to the facts reported and keep the jokes to other motorglider threads. Just sayin…
>
> Ramy
> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:14:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:17:21 PM UTC-4, Mark628CA wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > > I had no idea there was an ASW-27 with an engine installation. Is it a
> > > > self-launcher or a sustainer?
> > > The only engine installation on an ASW-27 I know of is Chris Esselstyne's twin-engine turbojet project. It is a self-launcher. (You might have seen it at Moriarty last year.)
> > Mark, that ship needs DQ as a contest number, Drag Queen. I cannot believe that Craig would think of me as stirring the pot, that really hurt. I have been so kind to the Motorglider guys and to have such an insult thrown my way is hard to believe, oh well, it is what it is! Old Bob, The Purist

Ramy, let this be a lesson when you try to be serious with Booby. I wonder if there is a dementia test now when you get a 3rd class medical?

Tom 2G

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 by: Charles Longley - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 04:57 UTC

On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 9:20:56 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 6:56:46 PM UTC-7, Ramy wrote:
> > Reading this thread, I find a report on a serious incident resulted from spin which developed into spiral, with the pilot alive thanks to recently deciding to take emergency parachutes seriously. There are important lessons to learn from such incident. Why was the spin developed into spiral dive? Pilot error? Aft CG? Good discussion on it.
> > Yet mixed in this thread are jokes about motorgliders, which only confusing some of the readers who apparently not read the whole thread or Craig’s report.
> > Common folks, this is a serious incident, let’s pay more attention to the facts reported and keep the jokes to other motorglider threads. Just sayin…
> >
> > Ramy
> > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:14:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:17:21 PM UTC-4, Mark628CA wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > > > I had no idea there was an ASW-27 with an engine installation. Is it a
> > > > > self-launcher or a sustainer?
> > > > The only engine installation on an ASW-27 I know of is Chris Esselstyne's twin-engine turbojet project. It is a self-launcher. (You might have seen it at Moriarty last year.)
> > > Mark, that ship needs DQ as a contest number, Drag Queen. I cannot believe that Craig would think of me as stirring the pot, that really hurt. I have been so kind to the Motorglider guys and to have such an insult thrown my way is hard to believe, oh well, it is what it is! Old Bob, The Purist
> Ramy, let this be a lesson when you try to be serious with Booby. I wonder if there is a dementia test now when you get a 3rd class medical?
>
> Tom 2G
You should take the dementia test Tommy.

I was sitting in the bar tonight with my first officer who happens to be a glider pilot with no cross country experience. He asked me well what about getting a motor glider? I said why don't I cut my penis off and change my sex. He thought that was pretty funny!

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 by: Eric Greenwell - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 23:46 UTC

On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:42:30 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote:
> > Reading this thread, I find a report on a serious incident resulted from spin which developed into spiral, with the pilot alive thanks to recently deciding to take emergency parachutes seriously. There are important lessons to learn from such incident. Why was the spin developed into spiral dive? Pilot error? Aft CG? Good discussion on it.
> > Yet mixed in this thread are jokes about motorgliders, which only confusing some of the readers who apparently not read the whole thread or Craig’s report.
> > Common folks, this is a serious incident, let’s pay more attention to the facts reported and keep the jokes to other motorglider threads. Just sayin…
> >
> > Ramy
> > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:14:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:17:21 PM UTC-4, Mark628CA wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > > > I had no idea there was an ASW-27 with an engine installation. Is it a
> > > > > self-launcher or a sustainer?
> > > > The only engine installation on an ASW-27 I know of is Chris Esselstyne's twin-engine turbojet project. It is a self-launcher. (You might have seen it at Moriarty last year.)
> > > Mark, that ship needs DQ as a contest number, Drag Queen. I cannot believe that Craig would think of me as stirring the pot, that really hurt. I have been so kind to the Motorglider guys and to have such an insult thrown my way is hard to believe, oh well, it is what it is! Old Bob, The Purist
> Loosen up Ramy, nothing here offensive to anyone, just a few laughs and short jabs. OBTP
Some of it is offensive to me. I agree with Ramy.

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 by: youngbl...@gmail.com - Thu, 20 Jul 2023 10:42 UTC

On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:42:30 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote:
> > > Reading this thread, I find a report on a serious incident resulted from spin which developed into spiral, with the pilot alive thanks to recently deciding to take emergency parachutes seriously. There are important lessons to learn from such incident. Why was the spin developed into spiral dive? Pilot error? Aft CG? Good discussion on it.
> > > Yet mixed in this thread are jokes about motorgliders, which only confusing some of the readers who apparently not read the whole thread or Craig’s report.
> > > Common folks, this is a serious incident, let’s pay more attention to the facts reported and keep the jokes to other motorglider threads.. Just sayin…
> > >
> > > Ramy
> > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:14:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:17:21 PM UTC-4, Mark628CA wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > > > > I had no idea there was an ASW-27 with an engine installation. Is it a
> > > > > > self-launcher or a sustainer?
> > > > > The only engine installation on an ASW-27 I know of is Chris Esselstyne's twin-engine turbojet project. It is a self-launcher. (You might have seen it at Moriarty last year.)
> > > > Mark, that ship needs DQ as a contest number, Drag Queen. I cannot believe that Craig would think of me as stirring the pot, that really hurt. I have been so kind to the Motorglider guys and to have such an insult thrown my way is hard to believe, oh well, it is what it is! Old Bob, The Purist
> > Loosen up Ramy, nothing here offensive to anyone, just a few laughs and short jabs. OBTP
> Some of it is offensive to me. I agree with Ramy.
If something is not directed at you, then how are you offended? What you should do is write a new book titled, "Motorgliders For Dummies". OBTP

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> > Some of it is offensive to me. I agree with Ramy.
> If something is not directed at you, then how are you offended? What you should do is write a new book titled, "Motorgliders For Dummies". OBTP

youngbl...@gmail.com
I was just wondering of Eric help assemble the ship?

Not directed at Eric?

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On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 10:21:13 PM UTC-4, s.bral...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Some of it is offensive to me. I agree with Ramy.
> > If something is not directed at you, then how are you offended? What you should do is write a new book titled, "Motorgliders For Dummies". OBTP
> youngbl...@gmail.com
> I was just wondering of Eric help assemble the ship?
> Not directed at Eric?
So what is so offensive about that , the assembly was documented and a video was taken. After all it was Eric that made the comment that the pilot should have read his book, I will let you explain that reply. OBTP

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 by: Eric Greenwell - Sat, 22 Jul 2023 21:15 UTC

On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:42:40 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:42:30 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote:
> > > > Reading this thread, I find a report on a serious incident resulted from spin which developed into spiral, with the pilot alive thanks to recently deciding to take emergency parachutes seriously. There are important lessons to learn from such incident. Why was the spin developed into spiral dive? Pilot error? Aft CG? Good discussion on it.
> > > > Yet mixed in this thread are jokes about motorgliders, which only confusing some of the readers who apparently not read the whole thread or Craig’s report.
> > > > Common folks, this is a serious incident, let’s pay more attention to the facts reported and keep the jokes to other motorglider threads. Just sayin…
> > > >
> > > > Ramy
> > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:14:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:17:21 PM UTC-4, Mark628CA wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > > > > > I had no idea there was an ASW-27 with an engine installation.. Is it a
> > > > > > > self-launcher or a sustainer?
> > > > > > The only engine installation on an ASW-27 I know of is Chris Esselstyne's twin-engine turbojet project. It is a self-launcher. (You might have seen it at Moriarty last year.)
> > > > > Mark, that ship needs DQ as a contest number, Drag Queen. I cannot believe that Craig would think of me as stirring the pot, that really hurt. I have been so kind to the Motorglider guys and to have such an insult thrown my way is hard to believe, oh well, it is what it is! Old Bob, The Purist
> > > Loosen up Ramy, nothing here offensive to anyone, just a few laughs and short jabs. OBTP
> > Some of it is offensive to me. I agree with Ramy.
> If something is not directed at you, then how are you offended? What you should do is write a new book titled, "Motorgliders For Dummies". OBTP
Have you read my "Guide"? It's not admitting you are a dummy if you have read it...

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 by: youngbl...@gmail.com - Sat, 22 Jul 2023 21:58 UTC

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:15:23 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:42:40 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:42:30 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote:
> > > > > Reading this thread, I find a report on a serious incident resulted from spin which developed into spiral, with the pilot alive thanks to recently deciding to take emergency parachutes seriously. There are important lessons to learn from such incident. Why was the spin developed into spiral dive? Pilot error? Aft CG? Good discussion on it.
> > > > > Yet mixed in this thread are jokes about motorgliders, which only confusing some of the readers who apparently not read the whole thread or Craig’s report.
> > > > > Common folks, this is a serious incident, let’s pay more attention to the facts reported and keep the jokes to other motorglider threads. Just sayin…
> > > > >
> > > > > Ramy
> > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:14:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:17:21 PM UTC-4, Mark628CA wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > > > > > > I had no idea there was an ASW-27 with an engine installation. Is it a
> > > > > > > > self-launcher or a sustainer?
> > > > > > > The only engine installation on an ASW-27 I know of is Chris Esselstyne's twin-engine turbojet project. It is a self-launcher. (You might have seen it at Moriarty last year.)
> > > > > > Mark, that ship needs DQ as a contest number, Drag Queen. I cannot believe that Craig would think of me as stirring the pot, that really hurt. I have been so kind to the Motorglider guys and to have such an insult thrown my way is hard to believe, oh well, it is what it is! Old Bob, The Purist
> > > > Loosen up Ramy, nothing here offensive to anyone, just a few laughs and short jabs. OBTP
> > > Some of it is offensive to me. I agree with Ramy.
> > If something is not directed at you, then how are you offended? What you should do is write a new book titled, "Motorgliders For Dummies". OBTP
> Have you read my "Guide"? It's not admitting you are a dummy if you have read it...
No, I have not, rather spend time reading something interesting like, "The National Enquirer". OBTP

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 by: Eric Greenwell - Sun, 23 Jul 2023 03:26 UTC

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:58:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:15:23 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:42:40 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:42:30 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote:
> > > > > > Reading this thread, I find a report on a serious incident resulted from spin which developed into spiral, with the pilot alive thanks to recently deciding to take emergency parachutes seriously. There are important lessons to learn from such incident. Why was the spin developed into spiral dive? Pilot error? Aft CG? Good discussion on it.
> > > > > > Yet mixed in this thread are jokes about motorgliders, which only confusing some of the readers who apparently not read the whole thread or Craig’s report.
> > > > > > Common folks, this is a serious incident, let’s pay more attention to the facts reported and keep the jokes to other motorglider threads. Just sayin…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ramy
> > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:14:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:17:21 PM UTC-4, Mark628CA wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I had no idea there was an ASW-27 with an engine installation. Is it a
> > > > > > > > > self-launcher or a sustainer?
> > > > > > > > The only engine installation on an ASW-27 I know of is Chris Esselstyne's twin-engine turbojet project. It is a self-launcher. (You might have seen it at Moriarty last year.)
> > > > > > > Mark, that ship needs DQ as a contest number, Drag Queen. I cannot believe that Craig would think of me as stirring the pot, that really hurt. I have been so kind to the Motorglider guys and to have such an insult thrown my way is hard to believe, oh well, it is what it is! Old Bob, The Purist
> > > > > Loosen up Ramy, nothing here offensive to anyone, just a few laughs and short jabs. OBTP
> > > > Some of it is offensive to me. I agree with Ramy.
> > > If something is not directed at you, then how are you offended? What you should do is write a new book titled, "Motorgliders For Dummies". OBTP
> > Have you read my "Guide"? It's not admitting you are a dummy if you have read it...
> No, I have not, rather spend time reading something interesting like, "The National Enquirer". OBTP
Someone that is considering a motorglider, explains them to others, and disparages motorglider pilots, but hasn't read the "Guide" ... you just might be a Dummy. "Sometimes what you are most afraid of doing is the one thing that will set you free."

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 by: youngbl...@gmail.com - Wed, 2 Aug 2023 17:25 UTC

On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:26:04 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:58:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:15:23 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:42:40 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:42:30 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote:
> > > > > > > Reading this thread, I find a report on a serious incident resulted from spin which developed into spiral, with the pilot alive thanks to recently deciding to take emergency parachutes seriously. There are important lessons to learn from such incident. Why was the spin developed into spiral dive? Pilot error? Aft CG? Good discussion on it.
> > > > > > > Yet mixed in this thread are jokes about motorgliders, which only confusing some of the readers who apparently not read the whole thread or Craig’s report.
> > > > > > > Common folks, this is a serious incident, let’s pay more attention to the facts reported and keep the jokes to other motorglider threads. Just sayin…
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ramy
> > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:14:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:17:21 PM UTC-4, Mark628CA wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I had no idea there was an ASW-27 with an engine installation. Is it a
> > > > > > > > > > self-launcher or a sustainer?
> > > > > > > > > The only engine installation on an ASW-27 I know of is Chris Esselstyne's twin-engine turbojet project. It is a self-launcher. (You might have seen it at Moriarty last year.)
> > > > > > > > Mark, that ship needs DQ as a contest number, Drag Queen. I cannot believe that Craig would think of me as stirring the pot, that really hurt. I have been so kind to the Motorglider guys and to have such an insult thrown my way is hard to believe, oh well, it is what it is! Old Bob, The Purist
> > > > > > Loosen up Ramy, nothing here offensive to anyone, just a few laughs and short jabs. OBTP
> > > > > Some of it is offensive to me. I agree with Ramy.
> > > > If something is not directed at you, then how are you offended? What you should do is write a new book titled, "Motorgliders For Dummies". OBTP
> > > Have you read my "Guide"? It's not admitting you are a dummy if you have read it...
> > No, I have not, rather spend time reading something interesting like, "The National Enquirer". OBTP
> Someone that is considering a motorglider, explains them to others, and disparages motorglider pilots, but hasn't read the "Guide" ... you just might be a Dummy. "Sometimes what you are most afraid of doing is the one thing that will set you free."
Eric, I don't think that reading some type of rag sheet would have helped James, hopefully he is recovering and doing well. OBTP

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 by: Eric Greenwell - Wed, 2 Aug 2023 19:55 UTC

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:25:32 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail..com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:26:04 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:58:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:15:23 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:42:40 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:42:30 AM UTC-7, youngbl....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote:
> > > > > > > > Reading this thread, I find a report on a serious incident resulted from spin which developed into spiral, with the pilot alive thanks to recently deciding to take emergency parachutes seriously. There are important lessons to learn from such incident. Why was the spin developed into spiral dive? Pilot error? Aft CG? Good discussion on it.
> > > > > > > > Yet mixed in this thread are jokes about motorgliders, which only confusing some of the readers who apparently not read the whole thread or Craig’s report.
> > > > > > > > Common folks, this is a serious incident, let’s pay more attention to the facts reported and keep the jokes to other motorglider threads. Just sayin…
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ramy
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:14:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:17:21 PM UTC-4, Mark628CA wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > I had no idea there was an ASW-27 with an engine installation. Is it a
> > > > > > > > > > > self-launcher or a sustainer?
> > > > > > > > > > The only engine installation on an ASW-27 I know of is Chris Esselstyne's twin-engine turbojet project. It is a self-launcher. (You might have seen it at Moriarty last year.)
> > > > > > > > > Mark, that ship needs DQ as a contest number, Drag Queen. I cannot believe that Craig would think of me as stirring the pot, that really hurt. I have been so kind to the Motorglider guys and to have such an insult thrown my way is hard to believe, oh well, it is what it is! Old Bob, The Purist
> > > > > > > Loosen up Ramy, nothing here offensive to anyone, just a few laughs and short jabs. OBTP
> > > > > > Some of it is offensive to me. I agree with Ramy.
> > > > > If something is not directed at you, then how are you offended? What you should do is write a new book titled, "Motorgliders For Dummies". OBTP
> > > > Have you read my "Guide"? It's not admitting you are a dummy if you have read it...
> > > No, I have not, rather spend time reading something interesting like, "The National Enquirer". OBTP
> > Someone that is considering a motorglider, explains them to others, and disparages motorglider pilots, but hasn't read the "Guide" ... you just might be a Dummy. "Sometimes what you are most afraid of doing is the one thing that will set you free."
> Eric, I don't think that reading some type of rag sheet would have helped James, hopefully he is recovering and doing well. OBTP
This is what I and others try to tell you: you make disparaging judgements without knowledge. In this case, it's the "rag sheet" remark from you, even though you have not read the Guide, or if he did read it.

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On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 3:55:19 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:25:32 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:26:04 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:58:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:15:23 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:42:40 AM UTC-7, youngbl....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:42:30 AM UTC-7, youngbl....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Reading this thread, I find a report on a serious incident resulted from spin which developed into spiral, with the pilot alive thanks to recently deciding to take emergency parachutes seriously. There are important lessons to learn from such incident. Why was the spin developed into spiral dive? Pilot error? Aft CG? Good discussion on it.
> > > > > > > > > Yet mixed in this thread are jokes about motorgliders, which only confusing some of the readers who apparently not read the whole thread or Craig’s report.
> > > > > > > > > Common folks, this is a serious incident, let’s pay more attention to the facts reported and keep the jokes to other motorglider threads. Just sayin…
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ramy
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:14:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:17:21 PM UTC-4, Mark628CA wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > I had no idea there was an ASW-27 with an engine installation. Is it a
> > > > > > > > > > > > self-launcher or a sustainer?
> > > > > > > > > > > The only engine installation on an ASW-27 I know of is Chris Esselstyne's twin-engine turbojet project. It is a self-launcher. (You might have seen it at Moriarty last year.)
> > > > > > > > > > Mark, that ship needs DQ as a contest number, Drag Queen. I cannot believe that Craig would think of me as stirring the pot, that really hurt. I have been so kind to the Motorglider guys and to have such an insult thrown my way is hard to believe, oh well, it is what it is! Old Bob, The Purist
> > > > > > > > Loosen up Ramy, nothing here offensive to anyone, just a few laughs and short jabs. OBTP
> > > > > > > Some of it is offensive to me. I agree with Ramy.
> > > > > > If something is not directed at you, then how are you offended? What you should do is write a new book titled, "Motorgliders For Dummies". OBTP
> > > > > Have you read my "Guide"? It's not admitting you are a dummy if you have read it...
> > > > No, I have not, rather spend time reading something interesting like, "The National Enquirer". OBTP
> > > Someone that is considering a motorglider, explains them to others, and disparages motorglider pilots, but hasn't read the "Guide" ... you just might be a Dummy. "Sometimes what you are most afraid of doing is the one thing that will set you free."
> > Eric, I don't think that reading some type of rag sheet would have helped James, hopefully he is recovering and doing well. OBTP
> This is what I and others try to tell you: you make disparaging judgements without knowledge. In this case, it's the "rag sheet" remark from you, even though you have not read the Guide, or if he did read it.

The Guide has a lot of very useful information.
Bob, my friend, sometimes you just go too far.
I know a lot is tongue in cheek, but it would be good to turn the temperature down.
Failure to do so means folks won't pay attention to the good and constructive things you say.
UH

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On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 5:13:59 PM UTC-4, Hank Nixon wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 3:55:19 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:25:32 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:26:04 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:58:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:15:23 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:42:40 AM UTC-7, youngbl....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:42:30 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Reading this thread, I find a report on a serious incident resulted from spin which developed into spiral, with the pilot alive thanks to recently deciding to take emergency parachutes seriously. There are important lessons to learn from such incident. Why was the spin developed into spiral dive? Pilot error? Aft CG? Good discussion on it.
> > > > > > > > > > Yet mixed in this thread are jokes about motorgliders, which only confusing some of the readers who apparently not read the whole thread or Craig’s report.
> > > > > > > > > > Common folks, this is a serious incident, let’s pay more attention to the facts reported and keep the jokes to other motorglider threads. Just sayin…
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ramy
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:14:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:17:21 PM UTC-4, Mark628CA wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I had no idea there was an ASW-27 with an engine installation. Is it a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > self-launcher or a sustainer?
> > > > > > > > > > > > The only engine installation on an ASW-27 I know of is Chris Esselstyne's twin-engine turbojet project. It is a self-launcher. (You might have seen it at Moriarty last year.)
> > > > > > > > > > > Mark, that ship needs DQ as a contest number, Drag Queen. I cannot believe that Craig would think of me as stirring the pot, that really hurt. I have been so kind to the Motorglider guys and to have such an insult thrown my way is hard to believe, oh well, it is what it is! Old Bob, The Purist
> > > > > > > > > Loosen up Ramy, nothing here offensive to anyone, just a few laughs and short jabs. OBTP
> > > > > > > > Some of it is offensive to me. I agree with Ramy.
> > > > > > > If something is not directed at you, then how are you offended? What you should do is write a new book titled, "Motorgliders For Dummies". OBTP
> > > > > > Have you read my "Guide"? It's not admitting you are a dummy if you have read it...
> > > > > No, I have not, rather spend time reading something interesting like, "The National Enquirer". OBTP
> > > > Someone that is considering a motorglider, explains them to others, and disparages motorglider pilots, but hasn't read the "Guide" ... you just might be a Dummy. "Sometimes what you are most afraid of doing is the one thing that will set you free."
> > > Eric, I don't think that reading some type of rag sheet would have helped James, hopefully he is recovering and doing well. OBTP
> > This is what I and others try to tell you: you make disparaging judgements without knowledge. In this case, it's the "rag sheet" remark from you, even though you have not read the Guide, or if he did read it.
> The Guide has a lot of very useful information.
> Bob, my friend, sometimes you just go too far.
> I know a lot is tongue in cheek, but it would be good to turn the temperature down.
> Failure to do so means folks won't pay attention to the good and constructive things you say.
> UH
UH, sorry that offense was taken in me making reference to the motorglider guide as the, "Rag Sheet", by definition the meaning simply states that it is paper made from rags, usually cotton. Hank, you guys are wound way too tight, loosen up and have a bit of fun. Now old Bob, The Purist will be away for a few days, certainly not vacationing or flying my pure glider, but hopefully returning very soon to turn the heat up on the RAS motorglider guys.. Take care, OBTP

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On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 3:33:27 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 5:13:59 PM UTC-4, Hank Nixon wrote:
> > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 3:55:19 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 10:25:32 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:26:04 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:58:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 5:15:23 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 3:42:40 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 7:46:07 PM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 7:42:30 AM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:56:46 PM UTC-4, Ramy wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Reading this thread, I find a report on a serious incident resulted from spin which developed into spiral, with the pilot alive thanks to recently deciding to take emergency parachutes seriously. There are important lessons to learn from such incident. Why was the spin developed into spiral dive? Pilot error? Aft CG? Good discussion on it.
> > > > > > > > > > > Yet mixed in this thread are jokes about motorgliders, which only confusing some of the readers who apparently not read the whole thread or Craig’s report.
> > > > > > > > > > > Common folks, this is a serious incident, let’s pay more attention to the facts reported and keep the jokes to other motorglider threads. Just sayin…
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Ramy
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:14:03 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:17:21 PM UTC-4, Mark628CA wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 1:47:58 PM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had no idea there was an ASW-27 with an engine installation. Is it a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > self-launcher or a sustainer?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The only engine installation on an ASW-27 I know of is Chris Esselstyne's twin-engine turbojet project. It is a self-launcher. (You might have seen it at Moriarty last year.)
> > > > > > > > > > > > Mark, that ship needs DQ as a contest number, Drag Queen. I cannot believe that Craig would think of me as stirring the pot, that really hurt. I have been so kind to the Motorglider guys and to have such an insult thrown my way is hard to believe, oh well, it is what it is! Old Bob, The Purist
> > > > > > > > > > Loosen up Ramy, nothing here offensive to anyone, just a few laughs and short jabs. OBTP
> > > > > > > > > Some of it is offensive to me. I agree with Ramy.
> > > > > > > > If something is not directed at you, then how are you offended? What you should do is write a new book titled, "Motorgliders For Dummies". OBTP
> > > > > > > Have you read my "Guide"? It's not admitting you are a dummy if you have read it...
> > > > > > No, I have not, rather spend time reading something interesting like, "The National Enquirer". OBTP
> > > > > Someone that is considering a motorglider, explains them to others, and disparages motorglider pilots, but hasn't read the "Guide" ... you just might be a Dummy. "Sometimes what you are most afraid of doing is the one thing that will set you free."
> > > > Eric, I don't think that reading some type of rag sheet would have helped James, hopefully he is recovering and doing well. OBTP
> > > This is what I and others try to tell you: you make disparaging judgements without knowledge. In this case, it's the "rag sheet" remark from you, even though you have not read the Guide, or if he did read it.
> > The Guide has a lot of very useful information.
> > Bob, my friend, sometimes you just go too far.
> > I know a lot is tongue in cheek, but it would be good to turn the temperature down.
> > Failure to do so means folks won't pay attention to the good and constructive things you say.
> > UH
> UH, sorry that offense was taken in me making reference to the motorglider guide as the, "Rag Sheet", by definition the meaning simply states that it is paper made from rags, usually cotton. Hank, you guys are wound way too tight, loosen up and have a bit of fun. Now old Bob, The Purist will be away for a few days, certainly not vacationing or flying my pure glider, but hopefully returning very soon to turn the heat up on the RAS motorglider guys. Take care, OBTP

That is the BEST thing that I have heard from Boobie in a long time.

Tom 2G

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