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* Don'tcha hate it when that happens?kinsell
+* Don'tcha hate it when that happens?Hank Nixon
|`- Don'tcha hate it when that happens?Eric Greenwell
`* Don'tcha hate it when that happens?youngbl...@gmail.com
 `* Don'tcha hate it when that happens?Gary Emerson
  `* Don'tcha hate it when that happens?youngbl...@gmail.com
   `* Don'tcha hate it when that happens?s.bral...@gmail.com
    +- Don'tcha hate it when that happens?Mark628CA
    `* Don'tcha hate it when that happens?youngbl...@gmail.com
     `* Don'tcha hate it when that happens?Tony
      `* Don'tcha hate it when that happens?Gary Emerson
       `* Don'tcha hate it when that happens?Tony Smolder
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 by: kinsell - Tue, 29 Aug 2023 14:13 UTC

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/318447

Any followup on this fairly recent incident? (other than the pilot
buying lots of lottery tickets)

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Subject: Re: Don'tcha hate it when that happens?
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 by: Hank Nixon - Tue, 29 Aug 2023 16:33 UTC

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 10:13:28 AM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
> https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/318447
>
> Any followup on this fairly recent incident? (other than the pilot
> buying lots of lottery tickets)

I'm not sure why this is described as an accident.
Best guess, without more info, is that there was flutter, likely rudder, that caused fuselage damage.
I've repaired another ship that had a similar event that was caused by improperly tensioned rudder cables (rudder was free to move 2 inches with pedals held solid, and rudder that was not mass balanced. Damage was torsional failure at the base of the fin.
FWIW
UH

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 by: youngbl...@gmail.com - Tue, 29 Aug 2023 19:51 UTC

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 10:13:28 AM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
> https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/318447
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> Any followup on this fairly recent incident? (other than the pilot
> buying lots of lottery tickets)
Another one of those dangerous motorgliders! OBTP

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 by: Gary Emerson - Tue, 29 Aug 2023 20:24 UTC

Another worthless post from Old Bob, Tiny Penis...

> Another one of those dangerous motorgliders! OBTP

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 by: youngbl...@gmail.com - Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:08 UTC

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 4:24:05 PM UTC-4, Gary Emerson wrote:
> Another worthless post from Old Bob, Tiny Penis...
> > Another one of those dangerous motorgliders! OBTP
Gary, you must be a sexual pervert. OBTP

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 by: s.bral...@gmail.com - Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:57 UTC

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 2:08:59 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 4:24:05 PM UTC-4, Gary Emerson wrote:
> > Another worthless post from Old Bob, Tiny Penis...
> > > Another one of those dangerous motorgliders! OBTP
> Gary, you must be a sexual pervert. OBTP

I always thought it was Old Bob The Pontificater but others say with Bob and his
talk of the young girls at TCSC that it's Old Bob The Pedophile.

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How about "Old Bob, Tuba Player," considering how often he blows his own horn.

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 by: Eric Greenwell - Tue, 29 Aug 2023 22:47 UTC

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 9:33:04 AM UTC-7, Hank Nixon wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 10:13:28 AM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
> > https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/318447
> >
> > Any followup on this fairly recent incident? (other than the pilot
> > buying lots of lottery tickets)
> I'm not sure why this is described as an accident.
> Best guess, without more info, is that there was flutter, likely rudder, that caused fuselage damage.
> I've repaired another ship that had a similar event that was caused by improperly tensioned rudder cables (rudder was free to move 2 inches with pedals held solid, and rudder that was not mass balanced. Damage was torsional failure at the base of the fin.
> FWIW
> UH
The "accident" may have occurred on a previous flight, or perhaps while being trailered, rigged, or even from improper ground handling. I wonder what his speed was when he deployed the spoilers, and why he used spoilers instead of slowly pitching up to slow down. And incredibly, his choice to induce the vibration again seems like really bad judgement. I would've broadcast what happened, that I may have a control or structural problem, and I'm going to descend slowly, then land as smoothly as I can, with very little spoiler use. "Be ready to rescue me".

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 by: youngbl...@gmail.com - Wed, 30 Aug 2023 19:40 UTC

On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 5:57:51 PM UTC-4, s.bral...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 2:08:59 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail..com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 4:24:05 PM UTC-4, Gary Emerson wrote:
> > > Another worthless post from Old Bob, Tiny Penis...
> > > > Another one of those dangerous motorgliders! OBTP
> > Gary, you must be a sexual pervert. OBTP
> I always thought it was Old Bob The Pontificater but others say with Bob and his
> talk of the young girls at TCSC that it's Old Bob The Pedophile.
Welcome to the venue of Florida Steve. OBTP

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 by: Tony - Wed, 30 Aug 2023 22:29 UTC

On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 3:40:35 PM UTC-4, youngbl...@gmail..com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 5:57:51 PM UTC-4, s.bral...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 2:08:59 PM UTC-7, youngbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 4:24:05 PM UTC-4, Gary Emerson wrote:
> > > > Another worthless post from Old Bob, Tiny Penis...
> > > > > Another one of those dangerous motorgliders! OBTP
> > > Gary, you must be a sexual pervert. OBTP
> > I always thought it was Old Bob The Pontificater but others say with Bob and his
> > talk of the young girls at TCSC that it's Old Bob The Pedophile.
> Welcome to the venue of Florida Steve. OBTP
Substantial damage occurred inflight - somehow - which makes it an reportable "accident" by NTSB 830. Agreed there has to be more to the story...

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 by: Gary Emerson - Wed, 13 Sep 2023 21:51 UTC

Looks like this happened a second time, not very long after the first one...

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/345435

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 by: Tony Smolder - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:32 UTC

On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 4:51:36 PM UTC-5, Gary Emerson wrote:
> Looks like this happened a second time, not very long after the first one....
>
> https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/345435
The one at the Soaring Club of Houston was staight and level cruising flight about 60 miles west of SCOH. Fortunately the pilot was able to make it back and land at SCOH. The tail boom had fractures and the vertical wobbled side to side with a light push.

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 by: Eric Greenwell - Fri, 15 Sep 2023 23:18 UTC

On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 11:32:03 AM UTC-7, Tony Smolder wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 4:51:36 PM UTC-5, Gary Emerson wrote:
> > Looks like this happened a second time, not very long after the first one...
> >
> > https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/345435
> The one at the Soaring Club of Houston was staight and level cruising flight about 60 miles west of SCOH. Fortunately the pilot was able to make it back and land at SCOH. The tail boom had fractures and the vertical wobbled side to side with a light push.
The speeds shown by Flightaware are astounding. Any idea why it's showing the speeds it does?

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