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* Just too old I guessjp
+* Just too old I guessSarah Anderson
|`* Just too old I guessMoshe Braner
| `* Just too old I guessDan Marotta
|  `* Just too old I guessSarah Anderson
|   `* Just too old I guessDan Marotta
|    `* Just too old I guessSteve Leonard
|     `- Just too old I guessMark628CA
`* Just too old I guessEric G
 `- Just too old I guessjp

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Just too old I guess

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 by: jp - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 19:06 UTC

I don't seem to be able to get an account on eternal-september.

I do the registration thing but never get any error messages or an email with my info.

I confess I don't have much patience with what appear to be unhelpful things.

I'll just stay with Safari. It is working even though all the junk stuff is anoying.

Re: Just too old I guess

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From: noone@nowhere.org (Sarah Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.soaring
Subject: Re: Just too old I guess
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 by: Sarah Anderson - Mon, 6 Nov 2023 21:26 UTC

Hmm.. I tried the registration page, and any use with a gmail email address did nothing.
It must have worked at one time, that's how my account is set up.

I tried registering again with my ISP email address (not an anonymous email like google gmail and the like.)
Worked fine.

Do you have another email address you can use to register with ES?
It doesn't really matter when using the news server - just for "userid/pw" when thunderbird logs in to the news server.
(The "userid" does not need to be the same as your registered email address and probably shouldn't be.)

On 11/3/23 2:06 PM, jp wrote:
> I don't seem to be able to get an account on eternal-september.
>
> I do the registration thing but never get any error messages or an email with my info.
>
> I confess I don't have much patience with what appear to be unhelpful things.
>
> I'll just stay with Safari. It is working even though all the junk stuff is anoying.
>

Re: Just too old I guess

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From: moshe.braner@gmail.com (Moshe Braner)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.soaring
Subject: Re: Just too old I guess
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 by: Moshe Braner - Mon, 6 Nov 2023 23:04 UTC

On 11/6/2023 4:26 PM, Sarah Anderson wrote:
> Hmm..  I tried the registration page, and any use with a gmail email
> address did nothing.
> It must have worked at one time, that's how my account is set up.
>
> I tried registering again with my ISP email address (not an anonymous
> email like google gmail and the like.)
> Worked fine.
>
> Do you have another email address you can use to register with ES?
> It doesn't really matter when using the news server - just for
> "userid/pw" when thunderbird logs in to the news server.
> (The "userid" does not need to be the same as your registered email
> address and probably shouldn't be.)
>
>
> On 11/3/23 2:06 PM, jp wrote:
>> I don't seem to be able to get an account on eternal-september.
>>
>> I do the registration thing but never get any error messages or an
>> email with my info.
>>
>> I confess I don't have much patience with what appear to be unhelpful
>> things.
>>
>> I'll just stay with Safari.  It is working even though all the junk
>> stuff is anoying.
>>
>

I thought the email address you register with also appears as the "From"
address when you post to the newsgroup (as I am doing here)? I
registered with my gmail address, but set up Thunderbird to use the
outgoing-email (SMTP) server of my "real" email address which is not on
gmail. As it turns out, if I try and send a private reply to somebody
here on RAS, and if that person's e-address is on gmail, then my email
service SMTP server refuses to send it, since they can tell that my
"From" address does not belong to that service. Only for gmail
destinations, claiming gmail is what's refusing this "unverified" email.
Strange. Even stranger, the "cannot send this" auto-reply ends up at
my gmail address!

Re: Just too old I guess

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From: dcmarotta@earthlink.net (Dan Marotta)
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Subject: Re: Just too old I guess
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 by: Dan Marotta - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 17:19 UTC

I've noticed that a recent "upgrade" to Thunderbird has made it annoying
to read threads. It used to display all replies in cascade fashion but
I can't seem to make it look that way any more. A double click on a
thread opens all replies simultaneously which then requires deleting the
replies individually.

I love it when something that isn't broken gets "fixed"... Wonder if I
can back out these "upgrades".

Dan
5J

On 11/6/23 16:04, Moshe Braner wrote:
> On 11/6/2023 4:26 PM, Sarah Anderson wrote:
>> Hmm..  I tried the registration page, and any use with a gmail email
>> address did nothing.
>> It must have worked at one time, that's how my account is set up.
>>
>> I tried registering again with my ISP email address (not an anonymous
>> email like google gmail and the like.)
>> Worked fine.
>>
>> Do you have another email address you can use to register with ES?
>> It doesn't really matter when using the news server - just for
>> "userid/pw" when thunderbird logs in to the news server.
>> (The "userid" does not need to be the same as your registered email
>> address and probably shouldn't be.)
>>
>>
>> On 11/3/23 2:06 PM, jp wrote:
>>> I don't seem to be able to get an account on eternal-september.
>>>
>>> I do the registration thing but never get any error messages or an
>>> email with my info.
>>>
>>> I confess I don't have much patience with what appear to be unhelpful
>>> things.
>>>
>>> I'll just stay with Safari.  It is working even though all the junk
>>> stuff is anoying.
>>>
>>
>
> I thought the email address you register with also appears as the "From"
> address when you post to the newsgroup (as I am doing here)?  I
> registered with my gmail address, but set up Thunderbird to use the
> outgoing-email (SMTP) server of my "real" email address which is not on
> gmail.  As it turns out, if I try and send a private reply to somebody
> here on RAS, and if that person's e-address is on gmail, then my email
> service SMTP server refuses to send it, since they can tell that my
> "From" address does not belong to that service.  Only for gmail
> destinations, claiming gmail is what's refusing this "unverified" email.
>  Strange.  Even stranger, the "cannot send this" auto-reply ends up at
> my gmail address!
>

Re: Just too old I guess

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Subject: Re: Just too old I guess
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 by: Sarah Anderson - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 22:38 UTC

You mean that funny "tree" button doesn't work for you?

https://imgur.com/a/hQCuCv8

On 11/7/23 11:19 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I've noticed that a recent "upgrade" to Thunderbird has made it annoying to read threads.  It used to display all replies in cascade
> fashion but I can't seem to make it look that way any more.  A double click on a thread opens all replies simultaneously which then
> requires deleting the replies individually.
>
> I love it when something that isn't broken gets "fixed"...  Wonder if I can back out these "upgrades".
>
> Dan
> 5J

Re: Just too old I guess

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 by: Dan Marotta - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 23:45 UTC

Wow! After clicking the funny tree button (which I hadn't noticed
before) I got five separate pop up messages, one for each branch of the
thread. There was no "Reply" button so I had to right click on the
message and select "Follow up to Newsgroup" to reply.

What a crock...

Dan
5J

On 11/7/23 15:38, Sarah Anderson wrote:
> You mean that funny "tree" button doesn't work for you?
>
> https://imgur.com/a/hQCuCv8
>
>
> On 11/7/23 11:19 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> I've noticed that a recent "upgrade" to Thunderbird has made it
>> annoying to read threads.  It used to display all replies in cascade
>> fashion but I can't seem to make it look that way any more.  A double
>> click on a thread opens all replies simultaneously which then requires
>> deleting the replies individually.
>>
>> I love it when something that isn't broken gets "fixed"...  Wonder if
>> I can back out these "upgrades".
>>
>> Dan
>> 5J

Re: Just too old I guess

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 by: Steve Leonard - Thu, 9 Nov 2023 16:37 UTC

> > On 11/7/23 11:19 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> >>
> >> I love it when something that isn't broken gets "fixed"... Wonder if
> >> I can back out these "upgrades".
> >>
> >> Dan
> >> 5J

Dan, you are slowly being dragged into the world of only viewing as if you were viewing in Google Groups!

Steve Leonard

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 by: Mark628CA - Thu, 9 Nov 2023 16:39 UTC

I love it when something that isn't broken gets "fixed".

If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is.

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 by: Eric G - Thu, 9 Nov 2023 23:51 UTC

On 11/3/2023 12:06 PM, jp wrote:
> I don't seem to be able to get an account on eternal-september.
>
> I do the registration thing but never get any error messages or an email with my info.
>
> I confess I don't have much patience with what appear to be unhelpful things.
>
> I'll just stay with Safari. It is working even though all the junk stuff is anoying.
>
I was able to set up Thunderbird with the RAS newsgroup in about 10 minutes, using this
"recipe":

https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_Usenet

Eric G

Re: Just too old I guess

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 by: jp - Fri, 10 Nov 2023 04:43 UTC

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 3:51:59 PM UTC-8, Eric G wrote:
> On 11/3/2023 12:06 PM, jp wrote:
> > I don't seem to be able to get an account on eternal-september.
> >
> > I do the registration thing but never get any error messages or an email with my info.
> >
> > I confess I don't have much patience with what appear to be unhelpful things.
> >
> > I'll just stay with Safari. It is working even though all the junk stuff is anoying.
> >
> I was able to set up Thunderbird with the RAS newsgroup in about 10 minutes, using this
> "recipe":
>
> https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_Usenet
>
> Eric G
Thank you to all. I've finally got the Thunderbird / eternal-september setup working.

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