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Where's OBTP?

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From: dcmarotta@earthlink.net (Dan Marotta)
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Subject: Where's OBTP?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 08:54:43 -0700
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by: Dan Marotta - Mon, 19 Feb 2024 15:54 UTC

I had a conversation with Wolfgang about Bob's absence. Is it possible
that those on google groups have some power over Usenet and can ban
someone such that third parties like me lose the benefit of Bob's vast
experience? Here's the conversation:

Hi,

That's very odd. I see subject line postings from Bob but when I click
on the subject I get a very "Windows" looking error message saying that
the message does not exist. My system is Ubuntu 24.04 (Beta) and
Thunderbird as the reader.

Thanks for looking.

Dan
On 2/19/24 12:11 AM, Wolfgang M. Weyand wrote:
> Hi,
>
> there doesn't seem to be anything I could do about this issue.
> There is no user with that name on Eternal-September and the concept
> of group membership does not exist on Usenet.
>
> >From a cursory look at the rec.aviation.soaring group, I suspect whatever
> the problem is, it's a Google Groups issue and has nothing to do with
> Eternal-September or even Usenet in general.
>
>
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 15:52:27 -0700
> Dan Marotta <dcmarotta@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Rec.Aviation.Soaring

--
Dan 5J

Re: Where's OBTP?

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From: tim@newportpeace.co.uk (Tim Newport-Peace)
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Subject: Re: Where's OBTP?
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by: Tim Newport-Peace - Mon, 19 Feb 2024 16:44 UTC

On 19/02/2024 15:54, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I had a conversation with Wolfgang about Bob's absence. Is it possible
> that those on google groups have some power over Usenet and can ban
> someone such that third parties like me lose the benefit of Bob's vast
> experience? Here's the conversation:
>
> Hi,
>
> That's very odd. I see subject line postings from Bob but when I click
> on the subject I get a very "Windows" looking error message saying that
> the message does not exist. My system is Ubuntu 24.04 (Beta) and
> Thunderbird as the reader.
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
> Dan
> On 2/19/24 12:11 AM, Wolfgang M. Weyand wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> there doesn't seem to be anything I could do about this issue.
>> There is no user with that name on Eternal-September and the concept
>> of group membership does not exist on Usenet.
>>
>> >From a cursory look at the rec.aviation.soaring group, I suspect
>> whatever the problem is, it's a Google Groups issue and has nothing to
>> do with
>> Eternal-September or even Usenet in general.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 15:52:27 -0700
>> Dan Marotta <dcmarotta@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Rec.Aviation.Soaring
>
Bob isn't the only one posting from gmail,
Joe Giltner's posts get through for instance.

I've seen Bob's postings briefly via Eternal-September, but when I try
to open them, I get a message saying it is expired!

On 24th December, a posting by youngblood8116@gmail.com did get through,
but nothing since.

Is it just when read by Thunderbird that his messages are expired??
T.

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From: eric@flyguy.netto (Eric G)
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Subject: Re: Where's OBTP?
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by: Eric G - Mon, 19 Feb 2024 17:37 UTC

On 2/19/2024 8:44 AM, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:
> On 19/02/2024 15:54, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> I had a conversation with Wolfgang about Bob's absence. Is it possible that those on
>> google groups have some power over Usenet and can ban someone such that third parties
>> like me lose the benefit of Bob's vast experience? Here's the conversation:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> That's very odd. I see subject line postings from Bob but when I click on the subject I
>> get a very "Windows" looking error message saying that the message does not exist. My
>> system is Ubuntu 24.04 (Beta) and Thunderbird as the reader.
>>
>> Thanks for looking.
>>
>> Dan
>> On 2/19/24 12:11 AM, Wolfgang M. Weyand wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> there doesn't seem to be anything I could do about this issue.
>>> There is no user with that name on Eternal-September and the concept
>>> of group membership does not exist on Usenet.
>>>
>>> >From a cursory look at the rec.aviation.soaring group, I suspect whatever the problem
>>> is, it's a Google Groups issue and has nothing to do with
>>> Eternal-September or even Usenet in general.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 15:52:27 -0700
>>> Dan Marotta <dcmarotta@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rec.Aviation.Soaring
>>
> Bob isn't the only one posting from gmail,
> Joe Giltner's posts get through for instance.
>
> I've seen Bob's postings briefly via Eternal-September, but when I try to open them, I get
> a message saying it is expired!
>
> On 24th December, a posting by youngblood8116@gmail.com did get through, but nothing since.
>
> Is it just when read by Thunderbird that his messages are expired??
> T.
>
I never see an original Old Bob posting, but I do see them "second hand" when other people
reply to his original posting.
Eric G

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by: Charlie M. (UH, Pi & - Mon, 19 Feb 2024 17:52 UTC

On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:54:47 AM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I had a conversation with Wolfgang about Bob's absence. Is it possible
> that those on google groups have some power over Usenet and can ban
> someone such that third parties like me lose the benefit of Bob's vast
> experience? Here's the conversation:
>
> Hi,
>
> That's very odd. I see subject line postings from Bob but when I click
> on the subject I get a very "Windows" looking error message saying that
> the message does not exist. My system is Ubuntu 24.04 (Beta) and
> Thunderbird as the reader.
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
> Dan
> On 2/19/24 12:11 AM, Wolfgang M. Weyand wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > there doesn't seem to be anything I could do about this issue.
> > There is no user with that name on Eternal-September and the concept
> > of group membership does not exist on Usenet.
> >
> > >From a cursory look at the rec.aviation.soaring group, I suspect whatever
> > the problem is, it's a Google Groups issue and has nothing to do with
> > Eternal-September or even Usenet in general.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 15:52:27 -0700
> > Dan Marotta <dcma...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Rec.Aviation.Soaring
>
> --
> Dan 5J
I see his posts directly here, like his "T minus" recent posts as he counts down the end of this section.
iPad, old OS and Safari. No reader/filters used.

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tech / rec.aviation.soaring / Re: Where's OBTP?

Subject	Author
Where's OBTP?	Dan Marotta
Re: Where's OBTP?	Tim Newport-Peace
Re: Where's OBTP?	Eric G
Re: Where's OBTP?	Charlie M. (UH, Pi & 002 owner/pilot)