Seems like people gave up pretty quickly.

Hi Frank,

Do you mean here on the new place?  I was surprised to see any thing.

Dan 5J
On 3/27/24 09:32, Frank Whiteley wrote:
> Seems like people gave up pretty quickly.

I'm staying here with the eternal-september and Thunderbird. If I have a
question or an observation I will post it here hoping that some people
are still checking this group. If necessary, I hope I can find what I
need to know somewhere/elsewhere.

Tom BravoMike

On 2024-03-27 10:43, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Hi Frank,
>
> Do you mean here on the new place?  I was surprised to see any thing.
>
> Dan 5J
> On 3/27/24 09:32, Frank Whiteley wrote:
>> Seems like people gave up pretty quickly.

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I'm still using eternal-september and Thunderbird and it starts
automagically when I start Thunderbird.  I guess it doesn't cost
anything to let it idle along and, when there's a posting, I'll see a
pop up notification.  What could be easier?

Right now I'm playing with something I just learned about last night
while watching a computer maintenance channel on youtube. It's called
ventoy and it allows building a bootable USB drive containing all of
your various operating system ISO files, disk maintenance tool kits, etc.

I maintain an old(er) Windows 10 computer so my wife can update her car
GPS and do the taxes and I can exercise the turbo control unit on my
Stemme.  I also created an Ubuntu 22.04 ISO file which contains all of
the updates to a couple of months ago and I'll place a copy on this USB
drive along with everything else.  It'll be nice to have everything on
one bootable drive where I can select just what I want/need without
maintaining a stack of drives.  AND it's a different/good way to pass
the time and learn something new during my recuperation.

Dan 5J
On 3/27/24 10:19, Tom BravoMike wrote:
> I'm staying here with the eternal-september and Thunderbird. If I have
> a question or an observation I will post it here hoping that some
> people are still checking this group. If necessary, I hope I can find
> what I need to know somewhere/elsewhere.
>
> Tom BravoMike
>
>
> On 2024-03-27 10:43, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Hi Frank,
>>
>> Do you mean here on the new place?  I was surprised to see any thing.
>>
>> Dan 5J
>> On 3/27/24 09:32, Frank Whiteley wrote:
>>> Seems like people gave up pretty quickly.
>
>

What are you recuperating from? Not serious, I hope.
Eric G

On 3/27/2024 9:41 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I'm still using eternal-september and Thunderbird and it starts automagically when I start
> Thunderbird.  I guess it doesn't cost anything to let it idle along and, when there's a
> posting, I'll see a pop up notification.  What could be easier?
>
> Right now I'm playing with something I just learned about last night while watching a
> computer maintenance channel on youtube. It's called ventoy and it allows building a
> bootable USB drive containing all of your various operating system ISO files, disk
> maintenance tool kits, etc.
>
> I maintain an old(er) Windows 10 computer so my wife can update her car GPS and do the
> taxes and I can exercise the turbo control unit on my Stemme.  I also created an Ubuntu
> 22.04 ISO file which contains all of the updates to a couple of months ago and I'll place
> a copy on this USB drive along with everything else.  It'll be nice to have everything on
> one bootable drive where I can select just what I want/need without maintaining a stack of
> drives.  AND it's a different/good way to pass the time and learn something new during my
> recuperation.
>
> Dan 5J
> On 3/27/24 10:19, Tom BravoMike wrote:
>> I'm staying here with the eternal-september and Thunderbird. If I have a question or an
>> observation I will post it here hoping that some people are still checking this group.
>> If necessary, I hope I can find what I need to know somewhere/elsewhere.
>>
>> Tom BravoMike
>>
>>
>> On 2024-03-27 10:43, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>> Hi Frank,
>>>
>>> Do you mean here on the new place?  I was surprised to see any thing.
>>>
>>> Dan 5J
>>> On 3/27/24 09:32, Frank Whiteley wrote:
>>>> Seems like people gave up pretty quickly.
>>
>>

While you are waiting for a response here, I suggest you post the same on RAS_Prime.
You'll get a response much more quickly. I follow RAS here, where nothing happens, and on
RAS_Prime, which has had many interesting posts during the same period.
Eric G

On 3/27/2024 9:19 AM, Tom BravoMike wrote:
> I'm staying here with the eternal-september and Thunderbird. If I have a question or an
> observation I will post it here hoping that some people are still checking this group. If
> necessary, I hope I can find what I need to know somewhere/elsewhere.
>
> Tom BravoMike
>
>
> On 2024-03-27 10:43, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Hi Frank,
>>
>> Do you mean here on the new place?  I was surprised to see any thing.
>>
>> Dan 5J
>> On 3/27/24 09:32, Frank Whiteley wrote:
>>> Seems like people gave up pretty quickly.
>
>

Well...  While refueling my Cessna 180, I fell off the ladder and broke
the ball off my left femur.  That resulted in a total hip replacement. 
I'm coming along but it's a big shock to the system and there's a lot of
physical therapy.  I'm getting there and hope to be flying again by the
end of next month.  My concern is that the effort to get into an
aircraft will have me napping shortly after takeoff...

Dan 5J
On 3/27/24 12:25, Eric G wrote:
> What are you recuperating from? Not serious, I hope.
> Eric G
>
> On 3/27/2024 9:41 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> I'm still using eternal-september and Thunderbird and it starts
>> automagically when I start Thunderbird.  I guess it doesn't cost
>> anything to let it idle along and, when there's a posting, I'll see a
>> pop up notification.  What could be easier?
>>
>> Right now I'm playing with something I just learned about last night
>> while watching a computer maintenance channel on youtube. It's called
>> ventoy and it allows building a bootable USB drive containing all of
>> your various operating system ISO files, disk maintenance tool kits,
>> etc.
>>
>> I maintain an old(er) Windows 10 computer so my wife can update her
>> car GPS and do the taxes and I can exercise the turbo control unit on
>> my Stemme.  I also created an Ubuntu 22.04 ISO file which contains
>> all of the updates to a couple of months ago and I'll place a copy on
>> this USB drive along with everything else.  It'll be nice to have
>> everything on one bootable drive where I can select just what I
>> want/need without maintaining a stack of drives.  AND it's a
>> different/good way to pass the time and learn something new during my
>> recuperation.
>>
>> Dan 5J
>> On 3/27/24 10:19, Tom BravoMike wrote:
>>> I'm staying here with the eternal-september and Thunderbird. If I
>>> have a question or an observation I will post it here hoping that
>>> some people are still checking this group. If necessary, I hope I
>>> can find what I need to know somewhere/elsewhere.
>>>
>>> Tom BravoMike
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2024-03-27 10:43, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>>> Hi Frank,
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean here on the new place?  I was surprised to see any thing.
>>>>
>>>> Dan 5J
>>>> On 3/27/24 09:32, Frank Whiteley wrote:
>>>>> Seems like people gave up pretty quickly.
>>>
>>>
>

Thanks, but nah.  I avoid google.

Dan 5J
On 3/27/24 12:25, Eric G wrote:
> While you are waiting for a response here, I suggest you post the same
> on RAS_Prime. You'll get a response much more quickly. I follow RAS
> here, where nothing happens, and on RAS_Prime, which has had many
> interesting posts during the same period.
> Eric G
>
> On 3/27/2024 9:19 AM, Tom BravoMike wrote:
>> I'm staying here with the eternal-september and Thunderbird. If I
>> have a question or an observation I will post it here hoping that
>> some people are still checking this group. If necessary, I hope I can
>> find what I need to know somewhere/elsewhere.
>>
>> Tom BravoMike
>>
>>
>> On 2024-03-27 10:43, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>> Hi Frank,
>>>
>>> Do you mean here on the new place?  I was surprised to see any thing.
>>>
>>> Dan 5J
>>> On 3/27/24 09:32, Frank Whiteley wrote:
>>>> Seems like people gave up pretty quickly.
>>
>>
>

Ouch! At our age, ladders are not our friends, are they? Get a low wing airplane, or find
gas pumps manned by line personnel!
Eric G

On 3/27/2024 11:39 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Well...  While refueling my Cessna 180, I fell off the ladder and broke the ball off my
> left femur.  That resulted in a total hip replacement. I'm coming along but it's a big
> shock to the system and there's a lot of physical therapy.  I'm getting there and hope to
> be flying again by the end of next month.  My concern is that the effort to get into an
> aircraft will have me napping shortly after takeoff...
>
> Dan 5J
> On 3/27/24 12:25, Eric G wrote:
>> What are you recuperating from? Not serious, I hope.
>> Eric G
>>
>> On 3/27/2024 9:41 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>> I'm still using eternal-september and Thunderbird and it starts automagically when I
>>> start Thunderbird.  I guess it doesn't cost anything to let it idle along and, when
>>> there's a posting, I'll see a pop up notification.  What could be easier?
>>>
>>> Right now I'm playing with something I just learned about last night while watching a
>>> computer maintenance channel on youtube. It's called ventoy and it allows building a
>>> bootable USB drive containing all of your various operating system ISO files, disk
>>> maintenance tool kits, etc.
>>>

.... Or find one of those ladders with actual stairs, hand holds, and a
platform to stand on.

Dan 5J
On 3/27/24 14:45, Eric G wrote:
> Ouch! At our age, ladders are not our friends, are they? Get a low
> wing airplane, or find gas pumps manned by line personnel!
> Eric G
>
>
> On 3/27/2024 11:39 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Well...  While refueling my Cessna 180, I fell off the ladder and
>> broke the ball off my left femur.  That resulted in a total hip
>> replacement. I'm coming along but it's a big shock to the system and
>> there's a lot of physical therapy. I'm getting there and hope to be
>> flying again by the end of next month.  My concern is that the effort
>> to get into an aircraft will have me napping shortly after takeoff...
>>
>> Dan 5J
>> On 3/27/24 12:25, Eric G wrote:
>>> What are you recuperating from? Not serious, I hope.
>>> Eric G
>>>
>>> On 3/27/2024 9:41 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>>> I'm still using eternal-september and Thunderbird and it starts
>>>> automagically when I start Thunderbird.  I guess it doesn't cost
>>>> anything to let it idle along and, when there's a posting, I'll see
>>>> a pop up notification.  What could be easier?
>>>>
>>>> Right now I'm playing with something I just learned about last
>>>> night while watching a computer maintenance channel on youtube.
>>>> It's called ventoy and it allows building a bootable USB drive
>>>> containing all of your various operating system ISO files, disk
>>>> maintenance tool kits, etc.
>>>>

On 3/27/2024 12:40 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Thanks, but nah. I avoid google.
>
> Dan 5J
> On 3/27/24 12:25, Eric G wrote:
>> While you are waiting for a response here, I suggest you post the same
>> on RAS_Prime. You'll get a response much more quickly. I follow RAS
>> here, where nothing happens, and on RAS_Prime, which has had many
>> interesting posts during the same period.
>> Eric G
>>
>> On 3/27/2024 9:19 AM, Tom BravoMike wrote:
>>> I'm staying here with the eternal-september and Thunderbird. If I
>>> have a question or an observation I will post it here hoping that
>>> some people are still checking this group. If necessary, I hope I can
>>> find what I need to know somewhere/elsewhere.
>>>
>>> Tom BravoMike
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2024-03-27 10:43, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>>> Hi Frank,
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean here on the new place? I was surprised to see any thing.
>>>>
>>>> Dan 5J
>>>> On 3/27/24 09:32, Frank Whiteley wrote:
>>>>> Seems like people gave up pretty quickly.
>>>
>>>
>>
Though I appreciate John DeRosa's effort, long term is not its future.
Remember Al McDonald's Silent Flight? He promised to keep the forum
going. Soaring is just a memory for him, at least until the kids are
grown. The USENET, NNTP protocol, was/is preferable, but on the way to
the pricing bottom, bandwidth got too pricey for all of the news servers
hosted by the small ISP's and the big ones couldn't find a way to
monetize it. Now that choice's are becoming limited, you may not be
paying more, but you may be getting less.

Frank

On 3/27/2024 4:49 PM, Frank Whiteley wrote:
> On 3/27/2024 12:40 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Thanks, but nah.  I avoid google.
>>
>> Dan 5J
>> On 3/27/24 12:25, Eric G wrote:
>>> While you are waiting for a response here, I suggest you post the same
>>> on RAS_Prime. You'll get a response much more quickly. I follow RAS
>>> here, where nothing happens, and on RAS_Prime, which has had many
>>> interesting posts during the same period.
>>> Eric G
>>>
>>> On 3/27/2024 9:19 AM, Tom BravoMike wrote:
>>>> I'm staying here with the eternal-september and Thunderbird. If I
>>>> have a question or an observation I will post it here hoping that
>>>> some people are still checking this group. If necessary, I hope I can
>>>> find what I need to know somewhere/elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> Tom BravoMike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2024-03-27 10:43, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>>>> Hi Frank,
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean here on the new place?  I was surprised to see any thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan 5J
>>>>> On 3/27/24 09:32, Frank Whiteley wrote:
>>>>>> Seems like people gave up pretty quickly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> Though I appreciate John DeRosa's effort, long term is not its future. Remember Al
> McDonald's Silent Flight? He promised to keep the forum going. Soaring is just a memory
> for him, at least until the kids are grown. The USENET, NNTP protocol, was/is preferable,
> but on the way to the pricing bottom, bandwidth got too pricey for all of the news servers
> hosted by the small ISP's and the big ones couldn't find a way to monetize it. Now that
> choice's are becoming limited, you may not be paying more, but you may be getting less.
>
> Frank
RAS_Prime depends on Google continuing to provide Google Groups. It does not depend on
John DeRosa, who can add as many Owners and Moderators as he wishes.

Yep, have a couple ladders like that, also got an 8' regular ladder to replace the 6' one
I'd been using, so there is more ladder at the top to hang on to. And I crawl around on
the motorhome roof instead walking.
Eric G

On 3/27/2024 2:51 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> ... Or find one of those ladders with actual stairs, hand holds, and a platform to stand on.
>
> Dan 5J
> On 3/27/24 14:45, Eric G wrote:
>> Ouch! At our age, ladders are not our friends, are they? Get a low wing airplane, or
>> find gas pumps manned by line personnel!
>> Eric G
>>
>>
>> On 3/27/2024 11:39 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>> Well...  While refueling my Cessna 180, I fell off the ladder and broke the ball off my
>>> left femur.  That resulted in a total hip replacement. I'm coming along but it's a big
>>> shock to the system and there's a lot of physical therapy. I'm getting there and hope
>>> to be flying again by the end of next month.  My concern is that the effort to get into
>>> an aircraft will have me napping shortly after takeoff...
>>>
>>> Dan 5J
>>> On 3/27/24 12:25, Eric G wrote:
>>>> What are you recuperating from? Not serious, I hope.
>>>> Eric G
>>>>
>>>> On 3/27/2024 9:41 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>>>> I'm still using eternal-september and Thunderbird and it starts automagically when I
>>>>> start Thunderbird.  I guess it doesn't cost anything to let it idle along and, when
>>>>> there's a posting, I'll see a pop up notification.  What could be easier?
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now I'm playing with something I just learned about last night while watching a
>>>>> computer maintenance channel on youtube. It's called ventoy and it allows building a
>>>>> bootable USB drive containing all of your various operating system ISO files, disk
>>>>> maintenance tool kits, etc.
>>>>>