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* OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaCursitor Doom
+- OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaKenW
+* OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaPeter W.
|+- OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaBob F
|+- OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaTrevor Wilson
|`* OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaJohn Robertson
| `- OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaTrevor Wilson
+* OT: More Weirdness from Californiaohg...@gmail.com
|`* OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaBob F
| `* OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaCursitor Doom
|  `* OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaPeter W.
|   `* OT: More Weirdness from Californiaohg...@gmail.com
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|    `- OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaGuy Patterson
`* OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaGuy Patterson
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     `* OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaPeter W.
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      `- OT: More Weirdness from CaliforniaJeff Liebermann

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> This has not one damned thing to do with party, democrat, republican, libertarian, communist, green, whatever. It has to do with massive, systemic and deliberate neglect, and industrial-grade stupidity mixed equally with Mil.Spec. ignorance.
>

I think you're being a bit tough on yourself Peter. Nobody is too old to learn.

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 by: Peter W. - Tue, 23 May 2023 16:39 UTC

> I think you're being a bit tough on yourself Peter. Nobody is too old to learn.

Yep.

Next time you need surgery, require a prescription drug, require a prosthesis, benefit from medical research - keep in mind that someone like me made it possible. Learning is what we do, so you can benefit from the research of others.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

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 by: ohg...@gmail.com - Wed, 24 May 2023 13:13 UTC

On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 12:39:25 PM UTC-4, Peter W. wrote:
> > I think you're being a bit tough on yourself Peter. Nobody is too old to learn.
> Yep.
>
> Next time you need surgery, require a prescription drug, require a prosthesis, benefit from medical research - keep in mind that someone like me made it possible. Learning is what we do, so you can benefit from the research of others.
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA

Someone like you? I think if medical researchers were much like you, the plague would still be running rampant around the globe..

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 by: Bob F - Wed, 24 May 2023 15:57 UTC

On 5/24/2023 6:13 AM, ohg...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 12:39:25 PM UTC-4, Peter W. wrote:
>>> I think you're being a bit tough on yourself Peter. Nobody is too old to learn.
>> Yep.
>>
>> Next time you need surgery, require a prescription drug, require a prosthesis, benefit from medical research - keep in mind that someone like me made it possible. Learning is what we do, so you can benefit from the research of others.
>> Peter Wieck
>> Melrose Park, PA
>
>
> Someone like you? I think if medical researchers were much like you, the plague would still be running rampant around the globe..

Right???

And you know so much from your favorite right wing wacko fake "news"
site or the well documented lying fox "news!

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 by: Jeff Liebermann - Wed, 24 May 2023 16:29 UTC

On Tue, 23 May 2023 07:00:17 -0700 (PDT), "Peter W."
<peterwieck33@gmail.com> wrote:

Let's see how I score. I'll try to be honest.

>> Based on your incredible life experience with that problem.
>
>Keep in mind that the Average American:
>
>Does not have a college education, including an Associate Degree (60%).

I have a BSEE.

>Does not have a passport (64%).

Yep. No current passport. I have not reason or interest in
traveling.

>Speaks one language – badly (74%).

Not badly, but yes, just one language. I can sorta muddle my way
though 3 other languages, but not without consulting a dictionary.

>Has never traveled voluntarily more than 200 miles from his/her birthplace (57%).

No way. Almost everyone I know has moved or emigrated from somewhere
distant. I was born in Germany, grew up in the Smog Angeles area, and
have lived in Santa Cruz CA for the last 50 years. Add a few more
countries for business travel.

>Has never visited a foreign country, not even Mexico or Canada (71%).

Not me. Traveled and lived in Mexico and Israel. Visited about 5
more countries for more than a week and I don't know how many for a
tour of more than the airport or train station.

>Cannot name the Speaker of the House, even today (82%)

Got me there. I can't. I've seen the name go by on the news a few
times, but can't recall it now. A better questions would be to name
their state and federal senators and representative. Extra credit for
remembering whom they voted for in the last election.

>Cannot name the three branches of government (64%)

That's an easy question. I'm really surprised that the percentage is
so low.

>Cannot read at a college level (83%)

I can definitely read at college level. I'm not sure, but I can write
at college level.

>Cannot read for content (54%). This person cannot follow written-only directions.

I recently had to deal with some medical procedures. Afterwards, I
was handed the computer generated release documents and instructions.
They contradicted various other instructions I had received. Online
reading made it worse. The grammar was marginal and a noticed several
errors and one contradiction in the instructions. Prior to retiring 2
years ago, I was dealing with this type of "content" on a daily basis.
Never mind if someone can't read the instructions. There's a more
serious problem with those who write instructions.

>60% of American Households do not buy any book in a year (includes Kindle and similar).

I bought 4 books in the last year. I've read two and skimmed the
other two. However, I do extensive reading and skimming online. A
few years ago, I started replacing my paper books with PDF's and
E-Books. It's so much easier finding things with a text search than
with a printed index.

>Does not believe in Evolution (42% creationism, 32% evolution, 26% no opinion).

I believe in evolution.

>Only 73% of eligible voters are registered.

I've been a registered Republican since I could vote.

>Only 67% of registered voters voted in 2020.

I voted in 2020. The problem is that I barely remember who was
running and whom I voted for. I keep my old sample ballots and could
probably look it up.

>Meaning that the average American eligible to vote does not vote (only 48.9% net). Repeat: The Average American does not vote.

I'm not average, but your numbers are probably true. When I get into
a political discussion, I often asked if my opponent voted in the last
election. If they didn't, I tell them that they missed their
opportunity to change things and have no right to complain if they
didn't vote.

>This has not one damned thing to do with party, democrat, republican, libertarian, communist, green, whatever. It has to do with massive, systemic and deliberate neglect, and industrial-grade stupidity mixed equally with Mil.Spec. ignorance.

Oh, there's more to the problem than stupidity. Maybe later.

>I wonder how many of the above boxes Doom and his cronies check?
>
>Peter Wieck
>Melrose Park, PA
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