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Subject: Re: Is it AI or not
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by: bruce bowser - Mon, 14 Aug 2023 11:45 UTC

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 5:39:38 PM UTC-4, Chris wrote:
> Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:
> > On 8/10/2023 2:43 PM, micky wrote:
> >> No one in popular news talked about AI 6 months ago and all of sudden
> >> it's everywhere.
> >>
> >> The most recent discussion I heard was about "using AI to read X-rays
> >> and other medical imaging".
> >>
> >> They have computer programs that will "look" at, examine, x-rays etc.
> >> and find medical problems, sometimes ones that the radiologist misses.
> >>
> >> So it's good if both look them.
> >>
> >> But is it AI? Seems to me it one slightly complicated algorith and
> >> comes nowhere close to AI. The Turing test for example.
> >>
> >> And that lots of thigns they are calling AI these days are just slightly
> >> or moderately complicated computer programs, black boxes maybe, but not
> >> AI.
> >>
> >> What say you?
> >>
> >
> > A radiologist assistant is not a Large Language Model.
> >
> > I would expect to some extent, image analysis would be a
> > "module" on an LLM, and not a part of the main bit.
> >
> > Bare minimum, it's a neural network, trained on images,
> > one at a time, that slosh around and train the neurons.
> >
> > For example, something like YOLO_5 (You Only Look Once), can
> > be trained to identify animals in photos. It draws a box around
> > the presumed animal and names it (or whatever). That uses a lot
> > less hardware than a Large Language Model, and less storage.
> > The article had a picture with a bear in it, and indeed, the
> > bear had a square drawn around it.
> >
> > But as for whether the "quality" is there, that is another
> > issue entirely. In my opinion, no radiologist would ever trust
> > something as sketchy as YOLO. Radiologists are very particular
> > about their jobs, as they hate getting sued.
>
> It's a sad reflection of priorities where the primary concern is about
> being sued rather than making sure patients get the best treatment.

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