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Re: Hang about guys, I just realised (remembered) why I never started using Thunderbird before. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT?

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From: usenet@andyburns.uk (Andy Burns)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair
Subject: Re: Hang about guys, I just realised (remembered) why I never started
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 by: Andy Burns - Sun, 7 Jan 2024 15:03 UTC

Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> if you have the message header pane toolbar enabled,
>> the reply button there behaves differently to the reply button on the
>> main toolbar.
>
> I don't have buttons on the main toolbar, but I have the main menu.
>
> "Message-Reply to sender only" behaves the same as "Reply" button in the
> message header pane toolbar and would send an email to you, but using my
> invalid email and the default smtp server, which will not work.
>
> "Message-Reply to all" attempts something that will fail. I'm not
> clicking send.
>
> "Message-Follow up to newsgroup" does the same as the "Follow up" button
> in the message header pane toolbar.

I can't remember exactly when the message header pane toolbar got added,
around v60 or something? Anyway I decided I already had the main
toolbar and didn't need another, so immediately turned it off.

Shortly afterwards I noticed a big increase in people sending me email
replies instead of to the group, and then having to apologise for it,
since I had no such button, I didn't immediately realise it was due to
the "same" button doing different things in different places.

For me the main reply button always behaves itself, it sends an email
reply to email messages and a usenet reply to usenet messages, on rare
occasions I may use reply-all when I choose to.

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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair
Subject: Re: Hang about guys, I just realised (remembered) why I never started
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 by: Carlos E.R. - Sun, 7 Jan 2024 19:03 UTC

On 2024-01-07 16:03, Andy Burns wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> if you have the message header pane toolbar enabled, the reply button
>>> there behaves differently to the reply button on the main toolbar.
>>
>> I don't have buttons on the main toolbar, but I have the main menu.
>>
>> "Message-Reply to sender only" behaves the same as "Reply" button in
>> the message header pane toolbar and would send an email to you, but
>> using my invalid email and the default smtp server, which will not work.
>>
>> "Message-Reply to all" attempts something that will fail. I'm not
>> clicking send.
>>
>> "Message-Follow up to newsgroup" does the same as the "Follow up"
>> button in the message header pane toolbar.
>
> I can't remember exactly when the message header pane toolbar got added,
> around v60 or something?  Anyway I decided I already had the main
> toolbar and didn't need another, so immediately turned it off.
>
> Shortly afterwards I noticed a big increase in people sending me email
> replies instead of to the group, and then having to apologise for it,
> since I had no such button, I didn't immediately realise it was due to
> the "same" button doing different things in different places.

But it is not the case, I get two different buttons. And on mail lists I
get a "Reply-list" button and follow up disappears.

> For me the main reply button always behaves itself, it sends an email
> reply to email messages and a usenet reply to usenet messages, on rare
> occasions I may use reply-all when I choose to.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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From: usenet@andyburns.uk (Andy Burns)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair
Subject: Re: Hang about guys, I just realised (remembered) why I never started
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 by: Andy Burns - Sun, 7 Jan 2024 19:17 UTC

Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> I didn't immediately realise it was due to
>> the "same" button doing different things in different places.
>
> But it is not the case, I get two different buttons.

I've just turned back on my hidden toolbar, and it *is* case here that
on the message header toolbar the first "reply" icon i.e. with
single-left facing arrow says "reply to sender" and it acts exactly like
"reply all" from the main toolbar i.e. with double left-facing arrow ...
try it ...

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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair
Subject: Re: Hang about guys, I just realised (remembered) why I never started
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 by: Carlos E.R. - Sun, 7 Jan 2024 20:33 UTC

On 2024-01-07 20:17, Andy Burns wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> I didn't immediately realise it was due to the "same" button doing
>>> different things in different places.
>>
>> But it is not the case, I get two different buttons.
>
> I've just turned back on my hidden toolbar, and it *is* case here that
> on the message header toolbar the first "reply" icon i.e. with
> single-left facing arrow says "reply to sender" and it acts exactly like
> "reply all" from the main toolbar i.e. with double left-facing arrow ...
> try it ...

No, mine says "Reply", not "reply to sender", and does not behave like
"reply all".

The Follow up button has a droplist:

Follow up
Reply all
Reply

And there is another button that says "Forward".

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:32 UTC

Carlos E.R. wrote:
> The Follow up button has a droplist:
>
>   Follow up
>   Reply all
>   Reply
>
> And there is another button that says "Forward".
yes, I get those ... I've even done a "reset" of the toolbar, it still
does "reply all"

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Mon, 8 Jan 2024 09:16 UTC

On 2024-01-08 07:32, Andy Burns wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> The Follow up button has a droplist:
>>
>>    Follow up
>>    Reply all
>>    Reply
>>
>> And there is another button that says "Forward".
>
> yes, I get those ... I've even done a "reset" of the toolbar, it still
> does "reply all"

On news, you only have to use "follow up". Forget replies of any kind.

If it doesn't work properly, it is something you have misconfigured on
your end, so ask in the Thunderbird group.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Re: Hang about guys, I just realised (remembered) why I never started using Thunderbird before. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT?

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 8 Jan 2024 09:33 UTC

Carlos E.R. wrote:

> If it doesn't work properly, it is something you have misconfigured on
> your end, so ask in the Thunderbird group.

It's not configurable, but it works just fine for me as it is ...

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