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* SLS launch. NASA still has itAlain Fournier
+* SLS launch. NASA still has itDavid Spain
|`- SLS launch. NASA still has itSylvia Else
`* SLS launch. NASA still has itTrolidan7
 `* SLS launch. NASA still has itSnidely
  `- SLS launch. NASA still has itAlain Fournier

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From: alain245@videotron.ca (Alain Fournier)
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Subject: SLS launch. NASA still has it
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 by: Alain Fournier - Wed, 16 Nov 2022 11:04 UTC

SLS launched this morning. It was spectacular. NASA showed us again that
they really know how to run a boondoggle.

Alain Fournier

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From: nospam@127.0.0.1 (David Spain)
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Subject: Re: SLS launch. NASA still has it
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 07:49:16 -0500
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 by: David Spain - Thu, 17 Nov 2022 12:49 UTC

On 2022-11-16 6:04 AM, Alain Fournier wrote:
> SLS launched this morning. It was spectacular. NASA showed us again that
> they really know how to run a boondoggle.
>
>
> Alain Fournier

*snicker*

The point I think, as was pointed out to me elsewhere, is that getting
SLS off the pad now enables Starship/SuperHeavy to perform either an
orbital or sub-orbital test without any political road-blocks being
thrown in its way to prevent an embarrassment to NASA.

I'm happy SLS got off the ground. I'd be even more happy if it were
reconfigured to deliver cargo only and we could use up the supply of
this expensive, ill-conceived rocket to put one and done cargo into
space. Perhaps in either lunar or Lagrange Point orbits.

Not a big fan of the gateway/toll-booth either....

Dave

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From: Trolidan7@eternal-september.org (Trolidan7)
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Subject: Re: SLS launch. NASA still has it
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 by: Trolidan7 - Sat, 19 Nov 2022 22:30 UTC

On 11/16/22 3:04 AM, Alain Fournier wrote:
> SLS launched this morning. It was spectacular. NASA showed us again that
> they really know how to run a boondoggle.
>
> Alain Fournier

Are those center tanks painted red, or do they rust quickly?

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From: snidely.too@gmail.com (Snidely)
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Subject: Re: SLS launch. NASA still has it
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 by: Snidely - Sun, 20 Nov 2022 07:50 UTC

Trolidan7 submitted this gripping article, maybe on Saturday:
> On 11/16/22 3:04 AM, Alain Fournier wrote:
>> SLS launched this morning. It was spectacular. NASA showed us again that
>> they really know how to run a boondoggle.
>>
>> Alain Fournier
>
> Are those center tanks painted red, or do they rust quickly?

The foam insulation on the core stage gets a suntan, just like the
Shuttle's external tanks did.

/dps

--
Killing a mouse was hardly a Nobel Prize-worthy exercise, and Lawrence
went apopleptic when he learned a lousy rodent had peed away all his
precious heavy water.
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 by: Alain Fournier - Sun, 20 Nov 2022 13:38 UTC

On Nov/20/2022 at 02:50, Snidely wrote :
> Trolidan7 submitted this gripping article, maybe on Saturday:
>> On 11/16/22 3:04 AM, Alain Fournier wrote:
>>> SLS launched this morning. It was spectacular. NASA showed us again
>>> that they really know how to run a boondoggle.
>>>
>>> Alain Fournier
>>
>> Are those center tanks painted red, or do they rust quickly?
>
> The foam insulation on the core stage gets a suntan, just like the
> Shuttle's external tanks did.

To be more precise. The natural colour of the insulation foam is light
orange. After exposition to sunlight, it becomes a darker rusty colour
(what Snidely called a suntan).

Alain Fournier

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 by: Sylvia Else - Mon, 21 Nov 2022 02:09 UTC

On 17/11/2022 11:49 pm, David Spain wrote:

> I'm happy SLS got off the ground. I'd be even more happy if it were
> reconfigured to deliver cargo only and we could use up the supply of
> this expensive, ill-conceived rocket to put one and done cargo into
> space. Perhaps in either lunar or Lagrange Point orbits.
>
> Not a big fan of the gateway/toll-booth either....
>
> Dave
>

I seem to remember the USAF [*] doing a study that showed that a solid
rocket failure after lift-off could be unsurvivable because bits of
burning solid rocket fuel would destroy the capsule's parachutes. I
don't believe a solution was found.

So relegating it to cargo only would certainly make sense, if there
really is no cheaper alternative available.

Sylvia.

[*] Yes - I don't know why the USAF was doing that either.

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