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From: alain245@videotron.ca (Alain Fournier)
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Subject: 2nd Starship test flight Friday?
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 by: Alain Fournier - Tue, 14 Nov 2023 13:21 UTC

See
https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-launch-date-november-2023#

Alain Fournier

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 by: Alain Fournier - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 00:30 UTC

On 2023-11-14 8:21 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
>
> See
> https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-launch-date-november-2023#
>
>
> Alain Fournier

Dear Elon,

For the first launch of the Starship stack you told us that excitement
was guaranteed. I think that if Starship had succeeded to go to Hawaii,
that would have been exciting. If Starship had went Kaboom shortly after
take off, that would have been exciting. But blowing up once the rocket
is out of sight, that is not very exciting. So this time, please provide
for a success or a RUD shortly after take off. In my opinion, the
optimal zone for blowing up is 500 m to 1 km from the launch pad. ;-)

Alain Fournier

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From: snidely.too@gmail.com (Snidely)
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Subject: Re: 2nd Starship test flight Friday?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 15:21:50 -0800
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 by: Snidely - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 23:21 UTC

Alain Fournier formulated the question :
> On 2023-11-14 8:21 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
>>
>> See
>> https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-launch-date-november-2023#
>>
>>
>> Alain Fournier
>
>
>
> Dear Elon,
>
>
> For the first launch of the Starship stack you told us that excitement was
> guaranteed. I think that if Starship had succeeded to go to Hawaii, that
> would have been exciting. If Starship had went Kaboom shortly after take off,
> that would have been exciting. But blowing up once the rocket is out of
> sight, that is not very exciting. So this time, please provide for a success
> or a RUD shortly after take off. In my opinion, the optimal zone for blowing
> up is 500 m to 1 km from the launch pad. ;-)
>
>
> Alain Fournier

The rocket was certainly in sight for the NSF team's live coverage.
For Everyday Astronaut, too, but he almost flushed coverage.

/dps

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Subject: Re: 2nd Starship test flight Friday?
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 by: Alain Fournier - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 12:10 UTC

On 2023-11-15 6:21 p.m., Snidely wrote:
> Alain Fournier formulated the question :
>> On 2023-11-14 8:21 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
>>>
>>> See
>>> https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-launch-date-november-2023#
>>>
>>>
>>> Alain Fournier
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Elon,
>>
>>
>> For the first launch of the Starship stack you told us that excitement
>> was guaranteed. I think that if Starship had succeeded to go to
>> Hawaii, that would have been exciting. If Starship had went Kaboom
>> shortly after take off, that would have been exciting. But blowing up
>> once the rocket is out of sight, that is not very exciting. So this
>> time, please provide for a success or a RUD shortly after take off. In
>> my opinion, the optimal zone for blowing up is 500 m to 1 km from the
>> launch pad. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Alain Fournier
>
> The rocket was certainly in sight for the NSF team's live coverage. For
> Everyday Astronaut, too, but he almost flushed coverage.
>
> /dps
>

Yes, but seeing it through a telescope isn't the same as seeing it with
your eyes and hearing the bang.

Launch is scheduled for 8 a.m. Friday.

Alain Fournier

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 by: Alain Fournier - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 13:15 UTC

On 2023-11-16 7:10 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
>
> Launch is scheduled for 8 a.m. Friday.

Sorry about that. I should have specified that is 8 a.m. EST (Montreal
time) or if you prefer 1 p.m. GMT (Greenwich time) or 7 a.m. in Boca
Chica, Tx.

Alain Fournier

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 by: Doctor Who - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 16:11 UTC

On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 08:15:23 -0500, Alain Fournier
<alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-11-16 7:10 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
>>
>> Launch is scheduled for 8 a.m. Friday.
>
>Sorry about that. I should have specified that is 8 a.m. EST (Montreal
>time) or if you prefer 1 p.m. GMT (Greenwich time) or 7 a.m. in Boca
>Chica, Tx.
>
>
>Alain Fournier

can we have a link to a live cam so that we can watch the bang?

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 by: Alain Fournier - Fri, 17 Nov 2023 03:07 UTC

On 2023-11-16 8:15 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
> On 2023-11-16 7:10 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
>>
>> Launch is scheduled for 8 a.m. Friday.
>
> Sorry about that. I should have specified that is 8 a.m. EST (Montreal
> time) or if you prefer 1 p.m. GMT (Greenwich time) or 7 a.m. in Boca
> Chica, Tx.

It is delayed 24 hours. Saturday, 1 p.m. GMT.

Alain Fournier

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 by: Snidely - Fri, 17 Nov 2023 13:34 UTC

After serious thinking Alain Fournier wrote :
> On 2023-11-15 6:21 p.m., Snidely wrote:
>> Alain Fournier formulated the question :
>>> On 2023-11-14 8:21 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
>>>>
>>>> See
>>>> https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-launch-date-november-2023#
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alain Fournier
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Elon,
>>>
>>>
>>> For the first launch of the Starship stack you told us that excitement was
>>> guaranteed. I think that if Starship had succeeded to go to Hawaii, that
>>> would have been exciting. If Starship had went Kaboom shortly after take
>>> off, that would have been exciting. But blowing up once the rocket is out
>>> of sight, that is not very exciting. So this time, please provide for a
>>> success or a RUD shortly after take off. In my opinion, the optimal zone
>>> for blowing up is 500 m to 1 km from the launch pad. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Alain Fournier
>>
>> The rocket was certainly in sight for the NSF team's live coverage. For
>> Everyday Astronaut, too, but he almost flushed coverage.
>>
>> /dps
>>
>
> Yes, but seeing it through a telescope isn't the same as seeing it with your
> eyes and hearing the bang.

You were in Brownsville for the first one?

> Launch is scheduled for 8 a.m. Friday.

I see you've seen the update.

> Alain Fournier

/dps

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 by: Alain Fournier - Fri, 17 Nov 2023 14:02 UTC

On 2023-11-17 8:34 a.m., Snidely wrote:
> After serious thinking Alain Fournier wrote :
>> On 2023-11-15 6:21 p.m., Snidely wrote:
>>> Alain Fournier formulated the question :
>>>> On 2023-11-14 8:21 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> See
>>>>> https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-launch-date-november-2023#
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alain Fournier
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Elon,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For the first launch of the Starship stack you told us that
>>>> excitement was guaranteed. I think that if Starship had succeeded to
>>>> go to Hawaii, that would have been exciting. If Starship had went
>>>> Kaboom shortly after take off, that would have been exciting. But
>>>> blowing up once the rocket is out of sight, that is not very
>>>> exciting. So this time, please provide for a success or a RUD
>>>> shortly after take off. In my opinion, the optimal zone for blowing
>>>> up is 500 m to 1 km from the launch pad. ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alain Fournier
>>>
>>> The rocket was certainly in sight for the NSF team's live coverage.
>>> For Everyday Astronaut, too, but he almost flushed coverage.
>>>
>>> /dps
>>>
>>
>> Yes, but seeing it through a telescope isn't the same as seeing it
>> with your eyes and hearing the bang.
>
> You were in Brownsville for the first one?

No. And in reality I thought the first launch was exciting. But I would
like the second one to be more exciting.

Alain Fournier

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 by: Doctor Who - Fri, 17 Nov 2023 15:11 UTC

On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 22:07:00 -0500, Alain Fournier
<alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-11-16 8:15 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
>> On 2023-11-16 7:10 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
>>>
>>> Launch is scheduled for 8 a.m. Friday.
>>
>> Sorry about that. I should have specified that is 8 a.m. EST (Montreal
>> time) or if you prefer 1 p.m. GMT (Greenwich time) or 7 a.m. in Boca
>> Chica, Tx.
>
>It is delayed 24 hours. Saturday, 1 p.m. GMT.
>
>
>Alain Fournier

ROTFL !!!!!!

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From: snidely.too@gmail.com (Snidely)
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Subject: Re: 2nd Starship test flight Friday?
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 by: Snidely - Sat, 18 Nov 2023 14:14 UTC

Remember when Alain Fournier bragged outrageously? That was Friday:
> On 2023-11-17 8:34 a.m., Snidely wrote:
>> After serious thinking Alain Fournier wrote :
>>> On 2023-11-15 6:21 p.m., Snidely wrote:
>>>> Alain Fournier formulated the question :
>>>>> On 2023-11-14 8:21 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See
>>>>>> https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-launch-date-november-2023#
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alain Fournier
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Elon,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For the first launch of the Starship stack you told us that excitement
>>>>> was guaranteed. I think that if Starship had succeeded to go to Hawaii,
>>>>> that would have been exciting. If Starship had went Kaboom shortly after
>>>>> take off, that would have been exciting. But blowing up once the rocket
>>>>> is out of sight, that is not very exciting. So this time, please provide
>>>>> for a success or a RUD shortly after take off. In my opinion, the
>>>>> optimal zone for blowing up is 500 m to 1 km from the launch pad. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alain Fournier
>>>>
>>>> The rocket was certainly in sight for the NSF team's live coverage. For
>>>> Everyday Astronaut, too, but he almost flushed coverage.
>>>>
>>>> /dps
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, but seeing it through a telescope isn't the same as seeing it with
>>> your eyes and hearing the bang.
>>
>> You were in Brownsville for the first one?
>
> No. And in reality I thought the first launch was exciting. But I would like
> the second one to be more exciting.
>
>
> Alain Fournier

How did this rate on the excitement level? No explosions until after
stage separation, so not close to the viewer.

/dps

--
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" Very much so, and I'd recommend the haggis wontons."
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 by: Alain Fournier - Sat, 18 Nov 2023 14:50 UTC

The bangs were far away and thus not as impressive as a low altitude
bang. But at least we got two bangs for the price of one. :-)

Alain Fournier

On 2023-11-18 9:14 a.m., Snidely wrote:
> Remember when Alain Fournier bragged outrageously?  That was Friday:
>> On 2023-11-17 8:34 a.m., Snidely wrote:
>>> After serious thinking Alain Fournier wrote :
>>>> On 2023-11-15 6:21 p.m., Snidely wrote:
>>>>> Alain Fournier formulated the question :
>>>>>> On 2023-11-14 8:21 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See
>>>>>>> https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-launch-date-november-2023#
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alain Fournier
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Elon,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the first launch of the Starship stack you told us that
>>>>>> excitement was guaranteed. I think that if Starship had succeeded
>>>>>> to go to Hawaii, that would have been exciting. If Starship had
>>>>>> went Kaboom shortly after take off, that would have been exciting.
>>>>>> But blowing up once the rocket is out of sight, that is not very
>>>>>> exciting. So this time, please provide for a success or a RUD
>>>>>> shortly after take off. In my opinion, the optimal zone for
>>>>>> blowing up is 500 m to 1 km from the launch pad. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alain Fournier
>>>>>
>>>>> The rocket was certainly in sight for the NSF team's live coverage.
>>>>> For Everyday Astronaut, too, but he almost flushed coverage.
>>>>>
>>>>> /dps
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but seeing it through a telescope isn't the same as seeing it
>>>> with your eyes and hearing the bang.
>>>
>>> You were in Brownsville for the first one?
>>
>> No. And in reality I thought the first launch was exciting. But I
>> would like the second one to be more exciting.
>>
>>
>> Alain Fournier
>
> How did this rate on the excitement level?  No explosions until after
> stage separation, so not close to the viewer.
>
> /dps
>

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 by: Alain Fournier - Sat, 18 Nov 2023 15:20 UTC

On 2023-11-18 9:50 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
> The bangs were far away and thus not as impressive as a low altitude
> bang. But at least we got two bangs for the price of one. :-)

For a while, after the booster went kaboom and the second stage seemed
to be doing fine, I thought we were going to have the best of both
worlds. An explosion and a success with the second stage going to Hawaii.

It seems that there was not much damage from flying pieces of concrete
and other such debris. Also, flight termination seemed to work fine.
That probably means that the next launch attempt could happen soon. My
understanding is that the delay for the launch licence were because of
those two problems with the first launch.

Alain Fournier

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 by: Snidely - Sat, 18 Nov 2023 16:46 UTC

Alain Fournier wrote on 11/18/2023 :
> On 2023-11-18 9:50 a.m., Alain Fournier wrote:
>> The bangs were far away and thus not as impressive as a low altitude bang.
>> But at least we got two bangs for the price of one. :-)
>
> For a while, after the booster went kaboom and the second stage seemed to be
> doing fine, I thought we were going to have the best of both worlds. An
> explosion and a success with the second stage going to Hawaii.

It was like we were cruising!

> It seems that there was not much damage from flying pieces of concrete and
> other such debris. Also, flight termination seemed to work fine. That
> probably means that the next launch attempt could happen soon.

Many of the NSF team expect late Q1 of 2024.

> My
> understanding is that the delay for the launch licence were because of those
> two problems with the first launch.

Sixty-two items

> Alain Fournier

/dps

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