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* Finding Planet NineMark Earnest
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 by: Mark Earnest - Fri, 16 Jun 2023 20:55 UTC

It may have jumped ship from a passing star, but one thing is for sure, it can be

found by micro-measuring the motions of the outer planets. They will all point

same direction, toward mysterious planet 9. We know it is there, so we just

need to know a little bit more.

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Subject: Re: Finding Planet Nine
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 by: Kym Horsell - Fri, 16 Jun 2023 23:02 UTC

On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 6:56:00 AM UTC+10, Mark Earnest wrote:
> It may have jumped ship from a passing star, but one thing is for sure, it can be
>
> found by micro-measuring the motions of the outer planets. They will all point
>
> same direction, toward mysterious planet 9. We know it is there, so we just
>
> need to know a little bit more.

There are plenty of jags in the movement of asteroids and comets. Too many. ;)

Some people think they have a rough idea where it is from
the orbits of high-inclination objects.
But not much help pointing to exactly where it might be.

On the TESS IR telescope you get fields like this:
<http://kym.massbus.org/UFO/TESS/tessfullframeimage.jpeg>

Good luck spotting the very faint dot in question.

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Subject: Re: Finding Planet Nine
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 by: Kym Horsell - Sat, 17 Jun 2023 16:17 UTC

On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 9:02:53 AM UTC+10, Kym Horsell wrote:
> On Saturday, June 17, 2023 at 6:56:00 AM UTC+10, Mark Earnest wrote:
> > It may have jumped ship from a passing star, but one thing is for sure, it can be
> >
> > found by micro-measuring the motions of the outer planets. They will all point
> >
> > same direction, toward mysterious planet 9. We know it is there, so we just
> >
> > need to know a little bit more.
> There are plenty of jags in the movement of asteroids and comets. Too many. ;)
>
> Some people think they have a rough idea where it is from
> the orbits of high-inclination objects.
> But not much help pointing to exactly where it might be.
>
> On the TESS IR telescope you get fields like this:

Wrong. I play with 3 telescopes and still get their specs confused. TESS is visible.
The image I pointed to is 1 of 16 sensors.
It's a pretty big 5x20 deg of field all up.

> <http://kym.massbus.org/UFO/TESS/tessfullframeimage.jpeg>
>
> Good luck spotting the very faint dot in question.

I found some old images that came up last time I think it was Starbuck(?) that was wondering about #9. The graphs show ~500 random asteroids where ecl long is along X axis and ecl lat is along Y axis. We process the Y so each ast has lats varying between -1 and +1 then average them all up.

If there is some big object out there we assume asteroiuds getting to some key longitude will quickly start to feel something and jiggle up/down/up/down as it passes by/adjacent to the slower outer Planet 9.

We see from the plots there are a few bumps. Nothing really stands out by eye.
One cluster seems to associate with asteroids 20AU or more out feeling Pluto or Neptune around lon 300.

But another little bump is over at long 100 and doesnt seem to corresp with any known big lump. Compare with anything pubklished by the people looking at high IN objects; I know at one point they had an est of long and even lat for #9.

Graphs at
<kym.massbus.org/PLANET9>

I've looked at ast >20 AU out and divided them into
"north hem" (>+20 h ecl lat)
"low incl" (between -20 and +20)
"south hem" (<-20)

Funny, ast in all bands sometimes see the same attractors. What can be bigger than Jup out that far? Who knows.

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