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* The UNIVERSE - What we knowcasagiannoni
+* The UNIVERSE - What we know - Falsehoods!a425couple
|`* The UNIVERSE - What we know - Falsehoods!casagiannoni
| `* The UNIVERSE - What we know - Falsehoods!Daniel65
|  `* The UNIVERSE - What we know - Falsehoods!casagiannoni
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|    `- The UNIVERSE - What we know - Falsehoods!casagiannoni
+- The UNIVERSE - What we knowpalsing
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 by: casagiannoni@optimum.net - Mon, 17 Jul 2023 17:24 UTC

Includes everything, so there can be only one.

Wasn't created. It always was and always will be.

Has no limits or bounds in either space or time.

No God.

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On 7/17/23 10:24, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
> The UNIVERSE - What we know
> Includes everything, so there can be only one.
> Wasn't created. It always was and always will be.
> Has no limits or bounds in either space or time.
> No God.

NO.
Casagiannon, you just think you know.
You do not believe in the results of science.
You do not believe in God.
The majority of us disagree with you.

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 by: casagiannoni@optimum.net - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 18:11 UTC

On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 09:49:23 -0700, a425couple
<a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 7/17/23 10:24, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
> > The UNIVERSE - What we know
>> Includes everything, so there can be only one.
>> Wasn't created. It always was and always will be.
>> Has no limits or bounds in either space or time.
>> No God.
>
>NO.
>Casagiannon, you just think you know.
>You do not believe in the results of science.
>You do not believe in God.
>The majority of us disagree with you.
>
Nothing in your response to my posting is true !

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 by: palsing - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 01:47 UTC

On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 10:24:03 AM UTC-7, casagi...@optimum.net wrote:

> Includes everything, so there can be only one.
>
> Wasn't created. It always was and always will be.
>
> Has no limits or bounds in either space or time.
>
> No God.
And your evidence in support of these claims is what, exactly? I'm not saying that you are wrong, I'm only asking how you know that you are right... your claims need EVIDENCE... got any?

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 by: Bob Campbell - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:29 UTC

<casagiannoni@optimum.net> wrote:

This is just what we think we know, today.

Remember, a few hundred years ago we “knew” that Earth was the center of
the “universe”, because everything moved around us.

We have a handful of primitive probes that are barely outside of the solar
system. We have telescopes of limited range. To proclaim that “this is
what we know about the universe” is sheer folly.

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 by: Daniel65 - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 13:16 UTC

casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote on 19/7/23 4:11 am:
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 09:49:23 -0700, a425couple
> <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 7/17/23 10:24, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
>>> The UNIVERSE - What we know
>>> Includes everything, so there can be only one.
>>> Wasn't created. It always was and always will be.
>>> Has no limits or bounds in either space or time.
>>> No God.
>>
>> NO.
>> Casagiannon, you just think you know.
>> You do not believe in the results of science.
>> You do not believe in God.
>> The majority of us disagree with you.
>>
> Nothing in your response to my posting is true !
>
Well, it would seem a425couple, palsing, Bob Campbell and ME (at least)
disagree with you, casagiannoni .... so that seems to indicate
a425couple's fourth point, at least, is *TRUE* !!
--
Daniel

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 by: casagiannoni@optimum.net - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:52 UTC

On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 23:16:50 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote on 19/7/23 4:11 am:
>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 09:49:23 -0700, a425couple
>> <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 7/17/23 10:24, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
>>>> The UNIVERSE - What we know
>>>> Includes everything, so there can be only one.
>>>> Wasn't created. It always was and always will be.
>>>> Has no limits or bounds in either space or time.
>>>> No God.
>>>
>>> NO.
>>> Casagiannon, you just think you know.
>>> You do not believe in the results of science.
>>> You do not believe in God.
>>> The majority of us disagree with you.
>>>
>> Nothing in your response to my posting is true !
>>
>Well, it would seem a425couple, palsing, Bob Campbell and ME (at least)
>disagree with you, casagiannoni .... so that seems to indicate
>a425couple's fourth point, at least, is *TRUE* !!

The onus is clearly on anyone proposing a God, to prove it.

If there is a God then don't you suppose he'd make his existence
clearly known ? Maybe post here or whatever ?

BTW, also no : Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny or like entity.

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 by: a425couple - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 22:59 UTC

On 7/19/23 10:52, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 23:16:50 +1000, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote on 19/7/23 4:11 am:
>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 09:49:23 -0700, a425couple
>>> <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/23 10:24, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
>>>>> The UNIVERSE - What we know
>>>>> Includes everything, so there can be only one.
>>>>> Wasn't created. It always was and always will be.
>>>>> Has no limits or bounds in either space or time.
>>>>> No God.
>>>>
>>>> NO.
>>>> Casagiannon, you just think you know.
>>>> You do not believe in the results of science.
>>>> You do not believe in God.
>>>> The majority of us disagree with you.
>>>>
>>> Nothing in your response to my posting is true !
>>>
>> Well, it would seem a425couple, palsing, Bob Campbell and ME (at least)
>> disagree with you, casagiannoni .... so that seems to indicate
>> a425couple's fourth point, at least, is *TRUE* !!
>
> The onus is clearly on anyone proposing a God, to prove it.
>
> If there is a God then don't you suppose he'd make his existence
> clearly known ? Maybe post here or whatever ?
>
> BTW, also no : Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny or like entity.

Besides my 4th line about God and religion, for now,
You have stated before that you do not believe in
the Big Bang. That and others causes me to say
that you are not believing in current science conclusions.

So, what really do you believe in?

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 by: casagiannoni@optimum.net - Thu, 20 Jul 2023 17:35 UTC

On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 15:59:40 -0700, a425couple
<a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 7/19/23 10:52, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 23:16:50 +1000, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote on 19/7/23 4:11 am:
>>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 09:49:23 -0700, a425couple
>>>> <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 7/17/23 10:24, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
>>>>>> The UNIVERSE - What we know
>>>>>> Includes everything, so there can be only one.
>>>>>> Wasn't created. It always was and always will be.
>>>>>> Has no limits or bounds in either space or time.
>>>>>> No God.
>>>>>
>>>>> NO.
>>>>> Casagiannon, you just think you know.
>>>>> You do not believe in the results of science.
>>>>> You do not believe in God.
>>>>> The majority of us disagree with you.
>>>>>
>>>> Nothing in your response to my posting is true !
>>>>
>>> Well, it would seem a425couple, palsing, Bob Campbell and ME (at least)
>>> disagree with you, casagiannoni .... so that seems to indicate
>>> a425couple's fourth point, at least, is *TRUE* !!
>>
>> The onus is clearly on anyone proposing a God, to prove it.
>>
>> If there is a God then don't you suppose he'd make his existence
>> clearly known ? Maybe post here or whatever ?
>>
>> BTW, also no : Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny or like entity.
>
>Besides my 4th line about God and religion, for now,
>You have stated before that you do not believe in
>the Big Bang. That and others causes me to say
>that you are not believing in current science conclusions.
>
>So, what really do you believe in?
>
>
Impossible to give a precise answer to that.

I believe in many scientifucally proven and accepted theories.

e.g. - evolution.

NOT - God or Big Bang.

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