Distance = Speed x Time

Interstellar distances are so great, as to preclude any chance of
travel between stars, even at speeds approaching c , which is
extremely unlikely in any case.

So all that talk about UFOs, alien visits and travel among the stars
is just so much BS !

If I'm repeating myself, it's just because the message is so very
important.

<casagiannoni@optimum.net> wrote:

> If I'm repeating myself, it's just because the message is so very
> important.

Or it’s just because both you and the message are stupid.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 18:22:58 +0000, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none>
wrote:

><casagiannoni@optimum.net> wrote:
>
>> If I'm repeating myself, it's just because the message is so very
>> important.
>
>Or it’s just because both you and the message are stupid.
>
Well I encourage you to be more specific.

What have I said tgat is inaccurate or a distortion ?

BTW, at current max spacecraft speeds, a one way trip to our nearest
star neighbor would take many millennia !

On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 18:22:58 +0000, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none>
wrote:

><casagiannoni@optimum.net> wrote:
>
>> If I'm repeating myself, it's just because the message is so very
>> important.
>
>Or it’s just because both you and the message are stupid.
>
>
Well I encourage you to be more specific.

What have I said that is inaccurate or a distortion ?

BTW, at current max spacecraft speeds, a one way trip to our nearest
star neighbor would take many millennia !

On 18/08/2023 4:22 am, Bob Campbell wrote:
> <casagiannoni@optimum.net> wrote:
>
>> If I'm repeating myself, it's just because the message is so very
>> important.
>
> Or it’s just because both you and the message are stupid.
>
>
>

But it just seems so obvious. I know many think there is little
difference between cosmic distances/scales, but there are obvious limits
when it comes to the human scale. We will never get remotely close to
another star system let alone all this sci-fi colonization bs. Humans
evolved to survive in a very specific and incredibly narrow set of
conditions, in terms of environment and time scales - these are set in
stone and in a sense we're doomed. Just enjoy it while you're here, but
we ain't going anywhere except in our minds and on cgi screens.

casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote on 18/8/23 6:29 am:
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 18:22:58 +0000, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none>
> wrote:
>> <casagiannoni@optimum.net> wrote:
>>
>>> If I'm repeating myself, it's just because the message is so very
>>> important.
>>
>> Or it’s just because both you and the message are stupid.
>>
> Well I encourage you to be more specific.
>
> What have I said tgat is inaccurate or a distortion ?
>
> BTW, at current max spacecraft speeds, a one way trip to our nearest
> star neighbor would take many millennia !
>
BTW, at approx 4.5 Billion Years old, our staller system is relatively
young. What would stop intelligent lifeforms from older systems from
visiting US, even at "current max spacecraft speeds"??

--
Daniel

On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:06:44 -0400
casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:

> Distance = Speed x Time
>
> Interstellar distances are so great, as to preclude any chance of
> travel between stars, even at speeds approaching c , which is
> extremely unlikely in any case.
>
> So all that talk about UFOs, alien visits and travel among the stars
> is just so much BS !
>
> If I'm repeating myself, it's just because the message is so very
> important.

You may not like this but here is the reality.

The 'interstellar distances' are a bunch of made-up fairy-tail bollocks.

Stars are not 'parsecs' or 'light years' distant.

The stars are roughly 3,700-4000 miles overhead. All of them are the
same distance from the earth. All of them are cycling in an orbit above
the face of the earth.

Anyone with a telescope can verify this. All overhead stars zoom to
roughly the same size overhead. The sun and the moon are the exact same
size as each other, and both are the same distance from the earth.

The astrophysics community is run by a bunch of freemasonic fraudsters.
The space program is a complete hoax.

Nobody landed on the moon. There is no Voyager probe or Mars lander.
All the space program talking heads are criminal con artists.

The world order is a monumental fraud.

On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 07:40:39 +1000
Whisper <whisper@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

> Just enjoy it while you're here, but
> we ain't going anywhere except in our minds and on cgi screens.

Exactly. The entire international space program racket is CGI, AVR on
green screens, and fakery. There is no Mars probe. Your mind is
getting probed by the fake space race.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 16:31:49 -0400
casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 18:22:58 +0000, Bob Campbell <nunya@none.none>
> wrote:
>
> ><casagiannoni@optimum.net> wrote:
> >
> >> If I'm repeating myself, it's just because the message is so very
> >> important.
> >
> >Or it’s just because both you and the message are stupid.
> >
> >
> Well I encourage you to be more specific.
>
> What have I said that is inaccurate or a distortion ?

Your belief in interstellar distances is a fantasy sold to you by your
rulers. The stars are all very close to the earth, roughly half of the
distance above us as the radius from north pole to southern ring of
Antartica.

The earth exists in a magnetic ground plane between the toroid
field. There is no Euclidean space outside the magnetic field.

On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 16:20:28 +1000
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> BTW, at approx 4.5 Billion Years old, our staller system is
> relatively young. What would stop intelligent lifeforms from older
> systems from visiting US, even at "current max spacecraft speeds"??

Reality. That would stop them. Because there is no universe and the
earth is a motionless, level plane, not a hypersonic spinning ball.

Buzzed Light Year <buzzed@light.year> wrote:

> The 'interstellar distances' are a bunch of made-up fairy-tail bollocks.
>
> Stars are not 'parsecs' or 'light years' distant.
>
> The stars are roughly 3,700-4000 miles overhead. All of them are the
> same distance from the earth. All of them are cycling in an orbit above
> the face of the earth.
>
> Anyone with a telescope can verify this. All overhead stars zoom to
> roughly the same size overhead. The sun and the moon are the exact same
> size as each other, and both are the same distance from the earth.
>
> The astrophysics community is run by a bunch of freemasonic fraudsters.
> The space program is a complete hoax.
>
> Nobody landed on the moon. There is no Voyager probe or Mars lander.
> All the space program talking heads are criminal con artists.
>
> The world order is a monumental fraud.

LOL. This is great stuff. Tell me, do you write your own material? Or
do you hire comedy writers?

Either way, you should hit the comedy club circuit. No “2 drink minimum”
needed with the above material. People will be rolling on the floor
laughing while waiting for their first drink to arrive.

“Anyone with a telescope can verify this. All overhead stars zoom to
roughly the same size overhead. “

Priceless.

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:50:50 PM UTC-7, Buzzed Light Year wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 16:20:28 +1000
> Daniel65 <dani...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
> > BTW, at approx 4.5 Billion Years old, our staller system is
> > relatively young. What would stop intelligent lifeforms from older
> > systems from visiting US, even at "current max spacecraft speeds"??
> Reality. That would stop them. Because there is no universe and the
> earth is a motionless, level plane, not a hypersonic spinning ball.

No doubt about the "Buzzed" part of your name...

Bob Campbell wrote on 21/8/23 2:23 am:
> Buzzed Light Year <buzzed@light.year> wrote:
>
>> The 'interstellar distances' are a bunch of made-up fairy-tail
>> bollocks.
>>
>> Stars are not 'parsecs' or 'light years' distant.
>>
>> The stars are roughly 3,700-4000 miles overhead. All of them are
>> the same distance from the earth. All of them are cycling in an
>> orbit above the face of the earth.
>>
>> Anyone with a telescope can verify this. All overhead stars zoom
>> to roughly the same size overhead. The sun and the moon are the
>> exact same size as each other, and both are the same distance from
>> the earth.
>>
>> The astrophysics community is run by a bunch of freemasonic
>> fraudsters. The space program is a complete hoax.
>>
>> Nobody landed on the moon. There is no Voyager probe or Mars
>> lander. All the space program talking heads are criminal con
>> artists.
>>
>> The world order is a monumental fraud.
>
> LOL. This is great stuff. Tell me, do you write your own material?
> Or do you hire comedy writers?
>
> Either way, you should hit the comedy club circuit. No “2 drink
> minimum” needed with the above material. People will be rolling on
> the floor laughing while waiting for their first drink to arrive.

'No “2 drink minimum” needed' ..... cause the audience will be leaving
BEFORE their first drink arrives!
--
Daniel

Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> Bob Campbell wrote on 21/8/23 2:23 am:
>> Buzzed Light Year <buzzed@light.year> wrote:
>>
>>> The 'interstellar distances' are a bunch of made-up fairy-tail
>>> bollocks.
>>>
>>> Stars are not 'parsecs' or 'light years' distant.
>>>
>>> The stars are roughly 3,700-4000 miles overhead. All of them are
>>> the same distance from the earth. All of them are cycling in an
>>> orbit above the face of the earth.
>>>
>>> Anyone with a telescope can verify this. All overhead stars zoom
>>> to roughly the same size overhead. The sun and the moon are the
>>> exact same size as each other, and both are the same distance from
>>> the earth.
>>>
>>> The astrophysics community is run by a bunch of freemasonic
>>> fraudsters. The space program is a complete hoax.
>>>
>>> Nobody landed on the moon. There is no Voyager probe or Mars
>>> lander. All the space program talking heads are criminal con
>>> artists.
>>>
>>> The world order is a monumental fraud.
>>
>> LOL. This is great stuff. Tell me, do you write your own material?
>> Or do you hire comedy writers?
>>
>> Either way, you should hit the comedy club circuit. No “2 drink
>> minimum” needed with the above material. People will be rolling on
>> the floor laughing while waiting for their first drink to arrive.
>
> 'No “2 drink minimum” needed' ..... cause the audience will be leaving
> BEFORE their first drink arrives!

LOL. Yeah, that too.

I think its time for “Buzzed” to put the bong down.

Re: Interstellar Distances
By: casagiannoni to alt.astronomy on Thu Aug 17 2023 14:06:44

> So all that talk about UFOs, alien visits and travel among the stars
> is just so much BS !

So, I heard that you can make quantum wormholes and shove quantum particles
into them and they come out wherever the other side of the wormhole is.. except
I heard that the larger the wormhole has to be, the more improbable it is.
Imagine if we could calculate the improbability of a wormhole large enough to
move our space ship/shuttle/station/whatever to another part of the galaxy or
universe! .. well, and that we had improbability drive.
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Phigan wrote on 22/8/23 7:44 am:
> Re: Interstellar Distances By: casagiannoni to alt.astronomy on Thu
> Aug 17 2023 14:06:44
>
>> So all that talk about UFOs, alien visits and travel among the
>> stars is just so much BS !
>
> So, I heard that you can make quantum wormholes and shove quantum
> particles into them and they come out wherever the other side of the
> wormhole is.. except I heard that the larger the wormhole has to be,
> the more improbable it is. Imagine if we could calculate the
> improbability of a wormhole large enough to move our space
> ship/shuttle/station/whatever to another part of the galaxy or
> universe! .. well, and that we had improbability drive. ---
> Synchronet 3.16c-Win32 NewsLink 1.103 MutinyBBS - telnet :
> mutinybbs.com:2332 - ssh : mutinybbs.com:2232
>
Suffering Brain Failure ..... I seem to recall somebody using a Quantum
Improbability Drive .... but can't remember which T.V. show it was on,
maybe "Red Dwarf"!!
--
Daniel

Re: Re: Interstellar Distances
By: Daniel65 to alt.astronomy on Tue Aug 22 2023 20:14:04

> Suffering Brain Failure ..... I seem to recall somebody using a Quantum
> Improbability Drive .... but can't remember which T.V. show it was on,
> maybe "Red Dwarf"!!

Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
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Phigan wrote on 24/8/23 7:03 am:
> Re: Re: Interstellar Distances By: Daniel65 to alt.astronomy on Tue
> Aug 22 2023 20:14:04
>
>> Suffering Brain Failure ..... I seem to recall somebody using a
>> Quantum Improbability Drive .... but can't remember which T.V. show
>> it was on, maybe "Red Dwarf"!!
>
> Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy --- Synchronet 3.16c-Win32 NewsLink
> 1.103 MutinyBBS - telnet : mutinybbs.com:2332 - ssh :
> mutinybbs.com:2232
>
Ah!! No!! How could I get those two confused?!?! (as I sit here in my
pyjamas!! Where's my Dressing Gown?? ;-P )
--
Daniel

Go research the inverse square law of light then apply that to stellar
distances provided by NASA. It proves all the figures given by NASA are
completely fraudulent.

For those of you mathematically disinclined, here are some links that
explain it and show you how it is impossible to see a star even one
light day away, let alone light YEARS distant. These are short videos.
Commentary is after the links below.

The Inverse Square Law Proves Local Sun
https://youtu.be/XT5HI_aIIf0

Question How do we see the sun the size that we see it?
https://youtu.be/p8zOpN4fpF8

Arcturus from a Straw Man's point of view
https://youtu.be/sIzQmiIg-z4

Demonstration of the Inverse Square Law for Light
https://youtu.be/FhTPAuK7LQo

Did India Really Land on the Moon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Atz46lyKQ

Let's reduce it simplistically. When you double the distance you
quadruple the reduction. When you triple the distance you increase the
reduction nine times. Each reduction decreases radiance the square of
the distance.

The spread and diffusion of radiance is exponential. Each new doubling
of distance squares the prior diffusion and exponentially decreases
visible radiance.

With such vast distances provided by NASA, not even a single wavelet of
the star's light would directly reach your eye for 999 out of 1000
stars.

This renders Alpha Centauri completely invisible at less than 1/100th
the distance claimed by NASA. Let's not even get into the ridiculous
distances for other stars beyond trillions and quadrillions and
centrillions and sextillions of miles.

Stellar distances and astronomical units are fraudulent nonsense!
Basic sixth-grade maths exposes the lunacy of modern astrophysics
mumbo-jumbo of stellar distances.

If the sun were moved even one light DAY away, it would be completely
invisible. Now multiply that by 365 days then 4 years of distance and do
your inverse square of light equation. Radiance would be less than a
quadrillionth of 1 lux just for Alpha Centauri.

The figures NASA tells you is made up by freemason liars. It's a
theatre. The astronauts are actors. It is all fake and staged.

The official stellar distances are mathematically impossible and violate
the inverse square law of light by orders of magnitude.

Astronaughty <astronaughty@anonymous.invalid> wrote:
> Let's reduce it simplistically. When you double the distance you
> quadruple the reduction. When you triple the distance you increase the
> reduction nine times. Each reduction decreases radiance the square of
> the distance.

Let’s increase it simplistically. Stars are incredibly huge, massively
bright objects. So the inverse square law makes them appear as tiny
pinpoints at the vast distances we are talking about.
> The spread and diffusion of radiance is exponential. Each new doubling
> of distance squares the prior diffusion and exponentially decreases
> visible radiance.

Correct. So?

If you believe that stars are the size of the moon, you might have a point.
That the sun and moon appear to us as roughly the same size in the sky is
sheer coincidence. So you have no point.

> With such vast distances provided by NASA, not even a single wavelet of
> the star's light would directly reach your eye for 999 out of 1000
> stars.
NASA does not “provide these vast distances”. Many were worked out long
before NASA existed. By actual scientists. Not goofballs making youtube
cartoons.