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We Don’t Need To Go To Mars
posted by Tim Carmody Feb 02, 2023

Buckle up, this one is fun: Maciej Cegowski has begun what promises to
be a multi-part essay arguing against a crewed mission to Mars. It’s
called “Why Not Mars,” it’s 8000 words long, with 66 footnotes, and it
sings. I’m not even sure I agree, but I enjoy the hell out of it.

The goal of this essay is to persuade you that we shouldnt send human
beings to Mars, at least not anytime soon. Landing on Mars with existing
technology would be a destructive, wasteful stunt whose only legacy
would be to ruin the greatest natural history experiment in the Solar
System. It would no more open a new era of spaceflight than a Phoenician
sailor crossing the Atlantic in 500 B.C. would have opened up the New
World. And it wouldnt even be that much fun.

A few choice lines:

Even billionaires who made their fortune automating labor on Earth agree
that Mars must be artisanally explored by hand.
There is a small cohort of people who really believe in going to Mars,
the way some people believe in ghosts or cryptocurrency, and this group
has an outsize effect on our space program.
I think it’s time we brought the Mars talk down to earth, and started
approaching a landing there as an aerospace project rather than the
fulfillment of God’s plan.
The things that make going to Mars hard are not fun space things, like
needing a bigger rocket, but tedious limits of human physiology.
I would compare keeping primates alive in spacecraft to trying to build
a jet engine out of raisins. Both are colossal engineering problems,
possibly the hardest ever attempted, but it does not follow that they
are problems worth solving.
I would pay large sums of American money to be a fly on the wall at the
meeting where someone tries to pitch senior career civil servants on
working for Elon Musk.
And so forth. If you don’t find yourself persuaded, you should at least
be hectored into entertainment. (And what a position it is, to be a
citizen of a civilization in the 21st century, where one ought to be
persuaded to attempt interplanetary flight).

Via Baratunde Thurston.

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On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 8:02:06 AM UTC-8, a425couple wrote:
> from
> https://kottke.org/23/02/we-dont-need-to-go-to-mars
>
> We Don’t Need To Go To Mars
> posted by Tim Carmody Feb 02, 2023
>
> Buckle up, this one is fun: Maciej Cegowski has begun what promises to
> be a multi-part essay arguing against a crewed mission to Mars. It’s
> called “Why Not Mars,” it’s 8000 words long, with 66 footnotes, and it
> sings. I’m not even sure I agree, but I enjoy the hell out of it.
>
> The goal of this essay is to persuade you that we shouldnt send human
> beings to Mars, at least not anytime soon. Landing on Mars with existing
> technology would be a destructive, wasteful stunt whose only legacy
> would be to ruin the greatest natural history experiment in the Solar
> System. It would no more open a new era of spaceflight than a Phoenician
> sailor crossing the Atlantic in 500 B.C. would have opened up the New
> World. And it wouldnt even be that much fun.
>
> A few choice lines:
>
> Even billionaires who made their fortune automating labor on Earth agree
> that Mars must be artisanally explored by hand.
> There is a small cohort of people who really believe in going to Mars,
> the way some people believe in ghosts or cryptocurrency, and this group
> has an outsize effect on our space program.
> I think it’s time we brought the Mars talk down to earth, and started
> approaching a landing there as an aerospace project rather than the
> fulfillment of God’s plan.
> The things that make going to Mars hard are not fun space things, like
> needing a bigger rocket, but tedious limits of human physiology.
> I would compare keeping primates alive in spacecraft to trying to build
> a jet engine out of raisins. Both are colossal engineering problems,
> possibly the hardest ever attempted, but it does not follow that they
> are problems worth solving.
> I would pay large sums of American money to be a fly on the wall at the
> meeting where someone tries to pitch senior career civil servants on
> working for Elon Musk.
> And so forth. If you don’t find yourself persuaded, you should at least
> be hectored into entertainment. (And what a position it is, to be a
> citizen of a civilization in the 21st century, where one ought to be
> persuaded to attempt interplanetary flight).
>
> Via Baratunde Thurston.

We don't, except Musk and wants to take another 1 million hoomans with him!
Somehow he hast to sell his rockets?


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