On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 3:07:59 PM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 12:31:59 PM UTC-8, Sight Reader wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 9:23:14 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 12:08:27 AM UTC-8, Sight Reader wrote:
> > > > I assume they mean stegosaurid, not Stegosaurus, since it’s dated to 130mya. It’s coming from China, so the early reports - or the translations of them - are still a bit rough. I assume there is no paper yet as other reports make it sound like there’s more preparing or junk getting pulled out of the matrix.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202311/1302248.shtml
> > > >
> > > > Quote:
> > > > Two fossilized dinosaurs dating back over 130 million years, one with a nearly 100 percent complete skeletal structure and fossilized skin, were unveiled by Chinese paleontologists during a fossil excavation and restoration project in North China's Hebei Province, the Xinhua News Agency reported on Monday.
> > > >
> > > > According to the report, researchers found some dinosaur skeletal remains in Fengning Man Autonomous County within the city of Chengde in 2017.. Years of excavation efforts resulted in the unearthing of two exquisitely preserved dinosaur fossils, which can be dated back over 130 million years..
> > > >
> > > > One of the species belongs to a relatively primitive ceratopsian (horned dinosaur) category, with nearly complete skeletal preservation, while the other is a Stegosaurus, boasting a rarely intact set of bones and skin marks.
> > > >
> > > > "The ceratopsian dinosaur fossil discovered this time is a crucial link that will fill the 'gap' in the evolutionary development of ceratopsian dinosaurs. The specimen's almost complete skeletal preservation will provide vital evidence for further research into the evolutionary path of primitive ceratopsian dinosaurs," said Zhang Fucheng, a professor at the Institute of Geology and Paleontology of Linyi University who also leads the research team.
> > > >
> > > > The Stegosaurus dinosaur is about 5 meters long, with skin fossils covering an area of about 3 square meters, scattered around the bone fossils with clear lines arranged like scales.
> > > >
> > > > This discovery marks the first instance of a Stegosaurus dinosaur fossil found in Hebei province, providing compelling evidence that Stegosaurus were active in northern China during the early Cretaceous era.
> > > >
> > > > "While hard parts such as the bones and teeth of dinosaurs are relatively easy to fossilize, the soft tissues such as skin and muscles are easy to rot, and the conditions for forming fossils are extremely harsh," Zhang explained, adding that the preservation level and integrity of the skin fossils are very rare finds worldwide.
> > > >
> > > > Guo Ying, an associate professor at the institute, further noted that this scale-like skin not only protected the Stegosaurus's body but also effectively retained their internal moisture, reducing their dependence on water sources to some extent and enhancing their adaptability to changes in the external environment."
> > > >
> > > > Researchers speculate that the exceptional preservation of the Stegosaurus dinosaur fossil may be attributed to frequent volcanic activities during that period.
> > > > "At that time, dinosaurs might have been drinking by the river or lake, or perhaps due to their natural death there, they fell directly into the water, which eventually carried them to deeper areas," suggested Zhang.
> > > >
> > > > According to Zhang, the dinosaur's body was not disturbed by microorganisms or small animals, and the ash fell year after year, leaving the fossils intact.
> > > >
> > > > Researchers believe that 130 million years ago, the Fengning county and its surrounding areas, where these fossils were found, boasted expansive forests and water systems, offering an effective shelter and sufficient food resources for herbivorous dinosaurs to live and thrive in groups.
> > > >
> > > > Having completed the primary restoration of the dinosaur fossils, researchers will proceed with additional restoration work, scientific analysis, and the creation of models and reconstruction illustrations of the dinosaurs, the report said.
> > > Just how important these discoveries are will only be know after publication somewhere other the Global Times (or any other pop press). Still, bravo for contributing something to keep our heads above the flood of sewage we've been getting.
> > Precisely my intent. I don’t know who runs this thing, but clearly Captcha needs to go back to recognizing traffic lights and motorcycles…
> Nobody's running it. But no motorcycles, stairs, lights, etc. if Captcha takes our word for it, fine.

Well, I was thinking a stricter Captcha might cut down on some of this spam..

On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 18:56:03 -0800 (PST)
Sight Reader <thesightreader@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 3:07:59 PM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 12:31:59 PM UTC-8, Sight Reader wrote:
> > > On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 9:23:14 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
[actual content]
> > > > Just how important these discoveries are will only be know after publication somewhere other the Global Times (or any other pop press). Still, bravo for contributing something to keep our heads above the flood of sewage we've been getting.
> > > Precisely my intent. I don’t know who runs this thing, but clearly Captcha needs to go back to recognizing traffic lights and motorcycles…
> > Nobody's running it. But no motorcycles, stairs, lights, etc. if Captcha takes our word for it, fine.
>
> Well, I was thinking a stricter Captcha might cut down on some of this spam.

A filter is useful; or a proper newsreader.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 9:09:41 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 2:49:03 AM UTC-8, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 18:56:03 -0800 (PST)
> > Sight Reader <thesigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 3:07:59 PM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> > > > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 12:31:59 PM UTC-8, Sight Reader wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 9:23:14 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> > [actual content]
> > > > > > Just how important these discoveries are will only be know after publication somewhere other the Global Times (or any other pop press). Still, bravo for contributing something to keep our heads above the flood of sewage we've been getting.
> > > > > Precisely my intent. I don’t know who runs this thing, but clearly Captcha needs to go back to recognizing traffic lights and motorcycles…
> > > > Nobody's running it. But no motorcycles, stairs, lights, etc. if Captcha takes our word for it, fine.
> > >
> > > Well, I was thinking a stricter Captcha might cut down on some of this spam.
> > A filter is useful; or a proper newsreader.
> >
> > --
> > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> I've fiddled with "proper" news readers (like Eternal September), but each that I've seen
> had their own problems. Have any suggestions? (I won't pay for any of them.)
Hmm. I dunno. I’m on “groups.google.com” on an iPad Safari browser. I get a little stop sign with an exclaimation point in it: I just select all the offending messages, click on the stop sign, and “mark as spam” shows up as an option.

On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 3:35:37 PM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 1:00:34 PM UTC-8, Sight Reader wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 9:09:41 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 2:49:03 AM UTC-8, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 18:56:03 -0800 (PST)
> > > > Sight Reader <thesigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 3:07:59 PM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 12:31:59 PM UTC-8, Sight Reader wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 9:23:14 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> > > > [actual content]
> > > > > > > > Just how important these discoveries are will only be know after publication somewhere other the Global Times (or any other pop press).. Still, bravo for contributing something to keep our heads above the flood of sewage we've been getting.
> > > > > > > Precisely my intent. I don’t know who runs this thing, but clearly Captcha needs to go back to recognizing traffic lights and motorcycles…
> > > > > > Nobody's running it. But no motorcycles, stairs, lights, etc. if Captcha takes our word for it, fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I was thinking a stricter Captcha might cut down on some of this spam.
> > > > A filter is useful; or a proper newsreader.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > I've fiddled with "proper" news readers (like Eternal September), but each that I've seen
> > > had their own problems. Have any suggestions? (I won't pay for any of them.)
> > Hmm. I dunno. I’m on “groups.google.com” on an iPad Safari browser. I get a little stop sign with an exclaimation point in it: I just select all the offending messages, click on the stop sign, and “mark as spam” shows up as an option.
> Maybe Safari is the difference. Firefox doesn't offer me that option.
Maybe it’s some sort of Google Groups option?

On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 13:00:32 -0800 (PST)
Sight Reader <thesightreader@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 9:09:41 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 2:49:03 AM UTC-8, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 18:56:03 -0800 (PST)
> > > Sight Reader <thesigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 3:07:59 PM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 12:31:59 PM UTC-8, Sight Reader wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 9:23:14 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> > > [actual content]
> > > > > > > Just how important these discoveries are will only be know after publication somewhere other the Global Times (or any other pop press). Still, bravo for contributing something to keep our heads above the flood of sewage we've been getting.
> > > > > > Precisely my intent. I don’t know who runs this thing, but clearly Captcha needs to go back to recognizing traffic lights and motorcycles…
> > > > > Nobody's running it. But no motorcycles, stairs, lights, etc. if Captcha takes our word for it, fine.
> > > >
> > > > Well, I was thinking a stricter Captcha might cut down on some of this spam.
> > > A filter is useful; or a proper newsreader.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > I've fiddled with "proper" news readers (like Eternal September), but each that I've seen
> > had their own problems. Have any suggestions? (I won't pay for any of them.)
> Hmm. I dunno. I’m on “groups.google.com” on an iPad Safari browser. I get a little stop sign with an exclaimation point in it: I just select all the offending messages, click on the stop sign, and “mark as spam” shows up as an option.

Google are extremely reluctant to do *anything* about those spam reports.

(Messed up formatting left in to show that a proper Newsreader would help)

P.S. E-S provides a usenet feed, you didn't mention which Newsreader you
tried.
I've used several NRs - if you look at my headers I'm currently using
Sylpheed under XP. Other posters might suggest one more closely aligned
with your platform.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 4:32:45 AM UTC-7, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 13:00:32 -0800 (PST)
> Sight Reader <thesigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 9:09:41 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 2:49:03 AM UTC-8, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 18:56:03 -0800 (PST)
> > > > Sight Reader <thesigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 3:07:59 PM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 12:31:59 PM UTC-8, Sight Reader wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 9:23:14 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
> > > > [actual content]
> > > > > > > > Just how important these discoveries are will only be know after publication somewhere other the Global Times (or any other pop press).. Still, bravo for contributing something to keep our heads above the flood of sewage we've been getting.
> > > > > > > Precisely my intent. I don’t know who runs this thing, but clearly Captcha needs to go back to recognizing traffic lights and motorcycles…
> > > > > > Nobody's running it. But no motorcycles, stairs, lights, etc. if Captcha takes our word for it, fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I was thinking a stricter Captcha might cut down on some of this spam.
> > > > A filter is useful; or a proper newsreader.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> > > I've fiddled with "proper" news readers (like Eternal September), but each that I've seen
> > > had their own problems. Have any suggestions? (I won't pay for any of them.)
> > Hmm. I dunno. I’m on “groups.google.com” on an iPad Safari browser. I get a little stop sign with an exclaimation point in it: I just select all the offending messages, click on the stop sign, and “mark as spam” shows up as an option.
> Google are extremely reluctant to do *anything* about those spam reports.
>
> (Messed up formatting left in to show that a proper Newsreader would help)
>
> P.S. E-S provides a usenet feed, you didn't mention which Newsreader you
> tried.
> I've used several NRs - if you look at my headers I'm currently using
> Sylpheed under XP. Other posters might suggest one more closely aligned
> with your platform.
> --
> Bah, and indeed Humbug.
Dang. I have no clue what newsreader I’m using. I am using Safari, and the top it says Google Groups… maybe that’s what’s responsible for the “stop sign” interface?

Sight Reader <thesightreader@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 4:32:45 AM UTC-7, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 13:00:32 -0800 (PST)
>> Sight Reader <thesigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 9:09:41 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 2:49:03 AM UTC-8, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 18:56:03 -0800 (PST)
>>>>> Sight Reader <thesigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 3:07:59 PM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 12:31:59 PM UTC-8, Sight Reader wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 9:23:14 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
>>>>> [actual content]
>>>>>>>>> Just how important these discoveries are will only be know after
>>>>>>>>> publication somewhere other the Global Times (or any other pop
>>>>>>>>> press). Still, bravo for contributing something to keep our heads
>>>>>>>>> above the flood of sewage we've been getting.
>>>>>>>> Precisely my intent. I don’t know who runs this thing, but clearly
>>>>>>>> Captcha needs to go back to recognizing traffic lights and motorcycles…
>>>>>>> Nobody's running it. But no motorcycles, stairs, lights, etc. if
>>>>>>> Captcha takes our word for it, fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I was thinking a stricter Captcha might cut down on some of this spam.
>>>>> A filter is useful; or a proper newsreader.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Bah, and indeed Humbug.
>>>> I've fiddled with "proper" news readers (like Eternal September), but
>>>> each that I've seen
>>>> had their own problems. Have any suggestions? (I won't pay for any of them.)
>>> Hmm. I dunno. I’m on “groups.google.com” on an iPad Safari browser. I
>>> get a little stop sign with an exclaimation point in it: I just select
>>> all the offending messages, click on the stop sign, and “mark as spam”
>>> shows up as an option.
>> Google are extremely reluctant to do *anything* about those spam reports.
>>
>> (Messed up formatting left in to show that a proper Newsreader would help)
>>
>> P.S. E-S provides a usenet feed, you didn't mention which Newsreader you
>> tried.
>> I've used several NRs - if you look at my headers I'm currently using
>> Sylpheed under XP. Other posters might suggest one more closely aligned
>> with your platform.
>> --
>> Bah, and indeed Humbug.
> Dang. I have no clue what newsreader I’m using. I am using Safari, and
> the top it says Google Groups… maybe that’s what’s responsible for the
> “stop sign” interface?
>
Google Groups is a web-based interface that substitutes for the traditional
reader-server setup. A newsreader instead is a piece of software you
install on your PC or device. It’s kinda like an email client. You use this
program to access a news server. These vary. Some are free. Others you pay
per time period. You subscribe to the server provider and plug in pieces of
information about that server into your newsreader to set it up. If you get
to this point make sure you use the available SSL port designation: 443 or
563.

Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 13:00:32 -0800 (PST)
> Sight Reader <thesightreader@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 9:09:41 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 2:49:03 AM UTC-8, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 18:56:03 -0800 (PST)
>>>> Sight Reader <thesigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 3:07:59 PM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 12:31:59 PM UTC-8, Sight Reader wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 9:23:14 AM UTC-7, erik simpson wrote:
>>>> [actual content]
>>>>>>>> Just how important these discoveries are will only be know after
>>>>>>>> publication somewhere other the Global Times (or any other pop
>>>>>>>> press). Still, bravo for contributing something to keep our heads
>>>>>>>> above the flood of sewage we've been getting.
>>>>>>> Precisely my intent. I don’t know who runs this thing, but clearly
>>>>>>> Captcha needs to go back to recognizing traffic lights and motorcycles…
>>>>>> Nobody's running it. But no motorcycles, stairs, lights, etc. if
>>>>>> Captcha takes our word for it, fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I was thinking a stricter Captcha might cut down on some of this spam.
>>>> A filter is useful; or a proper newsreader.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bah, and indeed Humbug.
>>> I've fiddled with "proper" news readers (like Eternal September), but
>>> each that I've seen
>>> had their own problems. Have any suggestions?
>>> (I won't pay for any of them.)
>> Hmm. I dunno. I’m on “groups.google.com” on an iPad Safari browser. I
>> get a little stop sign with an exclaimation point in it: I just select
>> all the offending messages, click on the stop sign, and “mark as spam”
>> shows up as an option.
>
> Google are extremely reluctant to do *anything* about those spam reports.
>
> (Messed up formatting left in to show that a proper Newsreader would help)
>
> P.S. E-S provides a usenet feed, you didn't mention which Newsreader you
> tried.
> I've used several NRs - if you look at my headers I'm currently using
> Sylpheed under XP. Other posters might suggest one more closely aligned
> with your platform.
>
Anyone using iPads or iPhones can use NewsTap. It has limitations as
implementing a semblance of a killfilter has drawbacks, but it works ok
overall. I don’t know how line length complies.