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* OT: Old Tow StrapBob La Londe
+* Re: OT: Old Tow StrapLeon Fisk
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|  `- Re: OT: Old Tow StrapGerry
`* Re: OT: Old Tow StrapClare Snyder
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From: none@none.com99 (Bob La Londe)
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Subject: OT: Old Tow Strap
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 by: Bob La Londe - Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:10 UTC

Other then pulling metal out of the sand (or mud) this is not a metal
related post.

You can see pictures here:
https://www.yumabassman.com/2023/12/31/old-tow-strap-a-little-different/

I’m looking for an old strap I bought about 30 years ago. I actually
bought three of them.

I know. I know. You may want to tell what you use. You can if you want.
I may even have some of what you use, but for the purpose of this post I
just don’t care.

I still have one left in good condition. I broke one pulling out trees,
and one got partially soak with paint by an employee behind the seat of
one of my service trucks.

It looks and feels like braided nylon rope, except it’s not a round
rope. Its two flat pieces of thick strap about an inch (or a smidge
more) wide that are braided together every 1-1/2 to 2 inches. They are
neat because you NEVER have to tie a knot in them, and they do not come
with a big thick loop on the end that can be hard to get through tight
places.

You can snake it through a tight space easily, and then complete the
loop by lacing it through itself 6-7 times. It sounds odd, but it does
not slip out. If you need a longer pull you can lace two of them
together end to end by lacing one through the other. No matter how hard
you pull the connection comes apart easily when you let the tension off.
Before any of you all say I am full of it. Remember. I have had them for
30 years, and I’ve used them this way many times.

I loaned one to somebody once (JUST ONCE), said “DO NOT TIE A KNOT IN
IT,” and showed them the correct way to make a loop. They brought it
back with a loop tied in one end. The next time they needed to borrow a
tow strap I told them I didn’t have one they were able to use.

They were not super cheap back in the day, but they can’t have been
crazy expensive either. I wasn’t making much money back then, and I
still remember buying three of them. One for each service truck I had at
the time. I don’t recall exactly what the rated load was, but I remember
being surprised by how heavy it was.

Anyway, do any of you know if they still make these and where to buy them?

--
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CNC Molds N Stuff

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 by: Leon Fisk - Mon, 1 Jan 2024 16:07 UTC

On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 14:10:57 -0700
Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

<snip>
>It looks and feels like braided nylon rope, except it’s not a round
>rope. Its two flat pieces of thick strap about an inch (or a smidge
>more) wide that are braided together every 1-1/2 to 2 inches. They are
>neat because you NEVER have to tie a knot in them, and they do not come
>with a big thick loop on the end that can be hard to get through tight
>places.

Maybe this "SpeedStrap"?

https://www.amazon.com/SpeedStrap-34130-Weavable-Recovery-Strap/dp/B07B7SQV6X?th=1

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI

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 by: Bob La Londe - Mon, 1 Jan 2024 20:09 UTC

On 1/1/2024 9:07 AM, Leon Fisk wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 14:10:57 -0700
> Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>> It looks and feels like braided nylon rope, except it’s not a round
>> rope. Its two flat pieces of thick strap about an inch (or a smidge
>> more) wide that are braided together every 1-1/2 to 2 inches. They are
>> neat because you NEVER have to tie a knot in them, and they do not come
>> with a big thick loop on the end that can be hard to get through tight
>> places.
>
> Maybe this "SpeedStrap"?
>
> https://www.amazon.com/SpeedStrap-34130-Weavable-Recovery-Strap/dp/B07B7SQV6X?th=1
>

Speedstrap is the closest I have found, but the weight rating is lower.
Maybe a difference in safety standards in 30 years since I bought the
first ones.

--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff

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 by: Leon Fisk - Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:11 UTC

On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 13:09:09 -0700
Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:

<snip>
>Speedstrap is the closest I have found, but the weight rating is lower.
>Maybe a difference in safety standards in 30 years since I bought the
>first ones.

Seems they have different sizes. Maybe this one?

https://www.amazon.com/SpeedStrap-34230-Weavable-Recovery-Strap/dp/B07B7WZB37/

"SpeedStrap Big Daddy Weavable Recovery Tow Strap 2" x 30' – Heavy Duty
14,000lb Break Strength – Emergency Towing Rope for Offroad 4x4, Jeep,
Truck, Buggy, Boats"

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI

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 by: danny burstein - Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:11 UTC

In <umv656$2ant8$1@dont-email.me> Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> writes:

[snip]
>> Maybe this "SpeedStrap"?
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/SpeedStrap-34130-Weavable-Recovery-Strap/dp/B07B7SQV6X?th=1
>>

>Speedstrap is the closest I have found, but the weight rating is lower.
>Maybe a difference in safety standards in 30 years since I bought the
>first ones.

Similarly, have you noticed how gravity has gotten stronger over
the decades, stairs have gotten higher, typefaces in newspapers
and books has gotten smaller...

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 by: Bob La Londe - Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:20 UTC

On 1/1/2024 3:11 PM, danny burstein wrote:
> In <umv656$2ant8$1@dont-email.me> Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> writes:
>
> [snip]
>>> Maybe this "SpeedStrap"?
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/SpeedStrap-34130-Weavable-Recovery-Strap/dp/B07B7SQV6X?th=1
>>>
>
>
>> Speedstrap is the closest I have found, but the weight rating is lower.
>> Maybe a difference in safety standards in 30 years since I bought the
>> first ones.
>
> Similarly, have you noticed how gravity has gotten stronger over
> the decades, stairs have gotten higher, typefaces in newspapers
> and books has gotten smaller...
>

No, but I have gotten older, and safety standards have changed.

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CNC Molds N Stuff

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 by: Clare Snyder - Tue, 2 Jan 2024 04:00 UTC

On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 14:10:57 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
wrote:

>Other then pulling metal out of the sand (or mud) this is not a metal
>related post.
>
>You can see pictures here:
>https://www.yumabassman.com/2023/12/31/old-tow-strap-a-little-different/
>
>I’m looking for an old strap I bought about 30 years ago. I actually
>bought three of them.
>
>I know. I know. You may want to tell what you use. You can if you want.
>I may even have some of what you use, but for the purpose of this post I
>just don’t care.
>
>I still have one left in good condition. I broke one pulling out trees,
>and one got partially soak with paint by an employee behind the seat of
>one of my service trucks.
>
>It looks and feels like braided nylon rope, except it’s not a round
>rope. Its two flat pieces of thick strap about an inch (or a smidge
>more) wide that are braided together every 1-1/2 to 2 inches. They are
>neat because you NEVER have to tie a knot in them, and they do not come
>with a big thick loop on the end that can be hard to get through tight
>places.
>
>You can snake it through a tight space easily, and then complete the
>loop by lacing it through itself 6-7 times. It sounds odd, but it does
>not slip out. If you need a longer pull you can lace two of them
>together end to end by lacing one through the other. No matter how hard
>you pull the connection comes apart easily when you let the tension off.
>Before any of you all say I am full of it. Remember. I have had them for
>30 years, and I’ve used them this way many times.
>
>I loaned one to somebody once (JUST ONCE), said “DO NOT TIE A KNOT IN
>IT,” and showed them the correct way to make a loop. They brought it
>back with a loop tied in one end. The next time they needed to borrow a
>tow strap I told them I didn’t have one they were able to use.
>
>They were not super cheap back in the day, but they can’t have been
>crazy expensive either. I wasn’t making much money back then, and I
>still remember buying three of them. One for each service truck I had at
>the time. I don’t recall exactly what the rated load was, but I remember
>being surprised by how heavy it was.
>
>Anyway, do any of you know if they still make these and where to buy them?
>
>
>
>--
>Bob La Londe
>CNC Molds N Stuff
I have abiut half a dozen of them but they have loops in them at both
ends. Virtually i They are about 8 feet long.dentical
construction.Can't remember where I got them but they were from some
"materials handling" application - think "lift slings", not "tow
straps". They would be wrapped around bundles of pipe or shannel or
wood or whatever - one end through the loop at the other end, then the
loop slipped over the fork of a fork-lift to pick the stuff up.

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 by: Gerry - Tue, 2 Jan 2024 04:31 UTC

On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:11:17 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein
<dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

>In <umv656$2ant8$1@dont-email.me> Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> writes:
>
>[snip]
>>> Maybe this "SpeedStrap"?
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/SpeedStrap-34130-Weavable-Recovery-Strap/dp/B07B7SQV6X?th=1
>>>
>
>
>>Speedstrap is the closest I have found, but the weight rating is lower.
>>Maybe a difference in safety standards in 30 years since I bought the
>>first ones.
>
>Similarly, have you noticed how gravity has gotten stronger over
>the decades, stairs have gotten higher, typefaces in newspapers
>and books has gotten smaller...
And my legs have grown longer (when puting on my socks and shoes)!!

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 by: Bob La Londe - Tue, 2 Jan 2024 21:40 UTC

On 1/1/2024 9:00 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 14:10:57 -0700, Bob La Londe <none@none.com99>
> wrote:
>
>> Other then pulling metal out of the sand (or mud) this is not a metal
>> related post.
>>
>> You can see pictures here:
>> https://www.yumabassman.com/2023/12/31/old-tow-strap-a-little-different/
>>
>> I’m looking for an old strap I bought about 30 years ago. I actually
>> bought three of them.
>>
>> I know. I know. You may want to tell what you use. You can if you want.
>> I may even have some of what you use, but for the purpose of this post I
>> just don’t care.
>>
>> I still have one left in good condition. I broke one pulling out trees,
>> and one got partially soak with paint by an employee behind the seat of
>> one of my service trucks.
>>
>> It looks and feels like braided nylon rope, except it’s not a round
>> rope. Its two flat pieces of thick strap about an inch (or a smidge
>> more) wide that are braided together every 1-1/2 to 2 inches. They are
>> neat because you NEVER have to tie a knot in them, and they do not come
>> with a big thick loop on the end that can be hard to get through tight
>> places.
>>
>> You can snake it through a tight space easily, and then complete the
>> loop by lacing it through itself 6-7 times. It sounds odd, but it does
>> not slip out. If you need a longer pull you can lace two of them
>> together end to end by lacing one through the other. No matter how hard
>> you pull the connection comes apart easily when you let the tension off.
>> Before any of you all say I am full of it. Remember. I have had them for
>> 30 years, and I’ve used them this way many times.
>>
>> I loaned one to somebody once (JUST ONCE), said “DO NOT TIE A KNOT IN
>> IT,” and showed them the correct way to make a loop. They brought it
>> back with a loop tied in one end. The next time they needed to borrow a
>> tow strap I told them I didn’t have one they were able to use.
>>
>> They were not super cheap back in the day, but they can’t have been
>> crazy expensive either. I wasn’t making much money back then, and I
>> still remember buying three of them. One for each service truck I had at
>> the time. I don’t recall exactly what the rated load was, but I remember
>> being surprised by how heavy it was.
>>
>> Anyway, do any of you know if they still make these and where to buy them?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bob La Londe
>> CNC Molds N Stuff
> I have abiut half a dozen of them but they have loops in them at both
> ends. Virtually i They are about 8 feet long.dentical
> construction.Can't remember where I got them but they were from some
> "materials handling" application - think "lift slings", not "tow
> straps". They would be wrapped around bundles of pipe or shannel or
> wood or whatever - one end through the loop at the other end, then the
> loop slipped over the fork of a fork-lift to pick the stuff up.

I do recall they had a lift rating, and I did use them to lace a cradle
to lift the boulders my neighbor placed around his mail box and around
his flag pole. Mostly they got used for pulling over the years. I hate
to put down the numbers I remember, because I am sure they must be
wrong, but I seem to recall 10K snap strength and 20K rolling load. It
sounds odd now reading it back. I don't recall the lift rating, but I
am sure it was less.

I happened to be working at Tool & Supply at the time, and I was there
when the company salesman was pitching them to the store owner. Maybe
some of what I recall was his sales hype.

I was working at Tool & Supply and starting my contracting business at
the same time.

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Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff

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