During Obama and his Great Recession that the Stupid 4+1 don't believe was there hero Obama's fault, pe3ople without work would run their tires until the steel casing broke through and would bleed steel particles all over the road causing bicycles endless problems with flat tires almost constantly. This did NOT stop until Trump entered office and then disappeared almost overnight.

Biden trumped Obama by doing the same thing in three years. Perhaps this is one of the reasons that Biden approval ratings are the lowest on record. And Trump's the highest.

I have four bikes down in the garage with flat tires and all of them are the slow leaks indicative of worn out car tires shedding wires. When I repair a pin hole flat the next ride is the same problem. One of the tubes I was repairing had six of these micro holes in it. That could be too much trouble to repair so it was trashed and the next ride on that bike had me getting another flat half way into the ride. I could not repair it since I have mistakenly put a short filler tube in it but the leak was so small that I was able to take a short cut home. Yesterday morning it was flat and I had to take out the Di2 bike which I am rapidly coming to despise. My hands become somewhat numb and I cannot tell which button I am pressing.

This isn't the case with any manual shifting. To show that this isn't a peculiarity of mine, all of the local bike shops are running out of tubes. Several of the local shops have been buying the narrower road tubes with Shrader fillers which are still available/ To use these you have to have less depth on the rim and it has to be drilled out for the Shrader filler. So the Stupid 4+1 are going to have to be fitted with tin foil hats because they fully intend to deny it. Even Liebermann who doesn't ride or Slocomb who, if he ever rode a bike, it was so long ago that he forgets what a bike looks like.

November can't come fast enough.

On 1/16/2024 11:51 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> During Obama and his Great Recession that the Stupid 4+1 don't believe was there hero Obama's fault, pe3ople without work would run their tires until the steel casing broke through and would bleed steel particles all over the road causing bicycles endless problems with flat tires almost constantly. This did NOT stop until Trump entered office and then disappeared almost overnight.
>
> Biden trumped Obama by doing the same thing in three years. Perhaps this is one of the reasons that Biden approval ratings are the lowest on record. And Trump's the highest.
>
> I have four bikes down in the garage with flat tires and all of them are the slow leaks indicative of worn out car tires shedding wires. When I repair a pin hole flat the next ride is the same problem. One of the tubes I was repairing had six of these micro holes in it. That could be too much trouble to repair so it was trashed and the next ride on that bike had me getting another flat half way into the ride. I could not repair it since I have mistakenly put a short filler tube in it but the leak was so small that I was able to take a short cut home. Yesterday morning it was flat and I had to take out the Di2 bike which I am rapidly coming to despise. My hands become somewhat numb and I cannot tell which button I am pressing.
>
> This isn't the case with any manual shifting. To show that this isn't a peculiarity of mine, all of the local bike shops are running out of tubes.

I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. Generally speaking I won't miss
tommy when he can't post here any more, but I _will_ miss gems like this.

BTW tommy

https://www.amazon.com/Tube-700-48mm-Presta-Valve/dp/B077CT1NY7?th=1

Free overnight delivery with Prime

Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/16/2024 11:51 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> During Obama and his Great Recession that the Stupid 4+1 don't believe
>> was there hero Obama's fault, pe3ople without work would run their tires
>> until the steel casing broke through and would bleed steel particles all
>> over the road causing bicycles endless problems with flat tires almost
>> constantly. This did NOT stop until Trump entered office and then
>> disappeared almost overnight.
>>
>> Biden trumped Obama by doing the same thing in three years. Perhaps this
>> is one of the reasons that Biden approval ratings are the lowest on
>> record. And Trump's the highest.
>>
>> I have four bikes down in the garage with flat tires and all of them are
>> the slow leaks indicative of worn out car tires shedding wires. When I
>> repair a pin hole flat the next ride is the same problem. One of the
>> tubes I was repairing had six of these micro holes in it. That could be
>> too much trouble to repair so it was trashed and the next ride on that
>> bike had me getting another flat half way into the ride. I could not
>> repair it since I have mistakenly put a short filler tube in it but the
>> leak was so small that I was able to take a short cut home. Yesterday
>> morning it was flat and I had to take out the Di2 bike which I am
>> rapidly coming to despise. My hands become somewhat numb and I cannot
>> tell which button I am pressing.
>>
>> This isn't the case with any manual shifting. To show that this isn't a
>> peculiarity of mine, all of the local bike shops are running out of tubes.
>
> I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. Generally speaking I won't miss
> tommy when he can't post here any more, but I _will_ miss gems like this.
>
>
> BTW tommy
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Tube-700-48mm-Presta-Valve/dp/B077CT1NY7?th=1
>
> Free overnight delivery with Prime
>
>
>

Even my elderly MTB ie my commute bike with its obsolete technology ie
26inch tubes is easy enough to get replacement tubes or tires from.
Admittedly tubes last many years as well the tires are generally man enough
to cope with any urban debris they encounter.

Roger Merriman

On 1/16/2024 9:14 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:

> I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. Generally speaking I won't miss
> tommy when he can't post here any more, but I _will_ miss gems like this.

That was the best!

FWIW, the great bicycle tube and tire shortage was during the Trump
administration.

Trump should have gotten an award from the National Bicycle Dealers
Association (NBDA) because it was his horrible botching of the response
to the Covid epidemic that led to the spectacular sales of bicycles,
parts, and accessories.
<https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/16/857157196/bike-sales-gear-up-as-the-homebound-try-socially-distant-exercise>

Biden, with his competent response to Covid, ended the pandemic and
bicycle sales plunged as people could go back to other activities.

During the pandemic, there was a big shortage to tubes and tires and
prices skyrocketed. Now tubes and tires are readily available and prices
have fallen. I just bought 27.5" Kenda tubes for less than $4 each
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/296093855956>.

Obama's competent handling of the economy ended the recession caused by
W. "The economy improved markedly under former President Barack Obama,
from the start of 2009 through the end of 2016. Faced with the specter
of another Great Depression in winter 2009, President Obama enacted a
series of policies that helped the economy avoid that fate. The economy
was growing again by the second half of 2009, and jobs followed suit by
early 2010. Economic growth continued apace for the rest of President
Obama’s time in office, and job growth logged its longest expansion on
record by early 2017, dating back to 1939.1 Employment opportunities
improved, the unemployment rate fell, wages eventually increased, and
household debt dropped sharply."

Biden is reversing the failures of the Trump economy, with spectacular
job growth, low unemployment, and a record stock market. The inflation
caused by the spending during the pandemic is coming down nicely.

--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

On 1/16/2024 2:49 PM, sms wrote:
> On 1/16/2024 9:14 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>
>> I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. Generally speaking I
>> won't miss tommy when he can't post here any more, but I
>> _will_ miss gems like this.
>
> That was the best!
>
> FWIW, the great bicycle tube and tire shortage was during
> the Trump administration.
>
> Trump should have gotten an award from the National Bicycle
> Dealers Association (NBDA) because it was his horrible
> botching of the response to the Covid epidemic that led to
> the spectacular sales of bicycles, parts, and accessories.
> <https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/16/857157196/bike-sales-gear-up-as-the-homebound-try-socially-distant-exercise>
>
> Biden, with his competent response to Covid, ended the
> pandemic and bicycle sales plunged as people could go back
> to other activities.
>
> During the pandemic, there was a big shortage to tubes and
> tires and prices skyrocketed. Now tubes and tires are
> readily available and prices have fallen. I just bought
> 27.5" Kenda tubes for less than $4 each
> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/296093855956>.
>
> Obama's competent handling of the economy ended the
> recession caused by W. "The economy improved markedly under
> former President Barack Obama, from the start of 2009
> through the end of 2016. Faced with the specter of another
> Great Depression in winter 2009, President Obama enacted a
> series of policies that helped the economy avoid that fate.
> The economy was growing again by the second half of 2009,
> and jobs followed suit by early 2010. Economic growth
> continued apace for the rest of President Obama’s time in
> office, and job growth logged its longest expansion on
> record by early 2017, dating back to 1939.1 Employment
> opportunities improved, the unemployment rate fell, wages
> eventually increased, and household debt dropped sharply."
>
> Biden is reversing the failures of the Trump economy, with
> spectacular job growth, low unemployment, and a record stock
> market. The inflation caused by the spending during the
> pandemic is coming down nicely.
>

Does the Obama Team (2009~16 and 2021~present) get credit
for firearms sales?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/249740/percentage-of-households-in-the-united-states-owning-a-firearm/
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 1/16/2024 4:19 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/16/2024 2:49 PM, sms wrote:
>> On 1/16/2024 9:14 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. Generally speaking I won't miss
>>> tommy when he can't post here any more, but I _will_ miss gems like
>>> this.
>>
>> That was the best!
>>
>> FWIW, the great bicycle tube and tire shortage was during the Trump
>> administration.
>>
>> Trump should have gotten an award from the National Bicycle Dealers
>> Association (NBDA) because it was his horrible botching of the
>> response to the Covid epidemic that led to the spectacular sales of
>> bicycles, parts, and accessories.
>> <https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/16/857157196/bike-sales-gear-up-as-the-homebound-try-socially-distant-exercise>
>>
>> Biden, with his competent response to Covid, ended the pandemic and
>> bicycle sales plunged as people could go back to other activities.
>>
>> During the pandemic, there was a big shortage to tubes and tires and
>> prices skyrocketed. Now tubes and tires are readily available and
>> prices have fallen. I just bought 27.5" Kenda tubes for less than $4
>> each <https://www.ebay.com/itm/296093855956>.
>>
>> Obama's competent handling of the economy ended the recession caused
>> by W. "The economy improved markedly under former President Barack
>> Obama, from the start of 2009 through the end of 2016. Faced with the
>> specter of another Great Depression in winter 2009, President Obama
>> enacted a series of policies that helped the economy avoid that fate.
>> The economy was growing again by the second half of 2009, and jobs
>> followed suit by early 2010. Economic growth continued apace for the
>> rest of President Obama’s time in office, and job growth logged its
>> longest expansion on record by early 2017, dating back to 1939.1
>> Employment opportunities improved, the unemployment rate fell, wages
>> eventually increased, and household debt dropped sharply."
>>
>> Biden is reversing the failures of the Trump economy, with spectacular
>> job growth, low unemployment, and a record stock market. The inflation
>> caused by the spending during the pandemic is coming down nicely.
>>
>
> Does the Obama Team (2009~16 and 2021~present) get credit for firearms
> sales?
>
> https://www.statista.com/statistics/249740/percentage-of-households-in-the-united-states-owning-a-firearm/

Indirectly - A large number of people bought into the lie spread by the
NRA/GOP that Obama was going to take everyone's guns.

--
Add xx to reply

On 1/16/2024 3:22 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
> On 1/16/2024 4:19 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/16/2024 2:49 PM, sms wrote:
>>> On 1/16/2024 9:14 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>
>>>> I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. Generally speaking
>>>> I won't miss tommy when he can't post here any more, but
>>>> I _will_ miss gems like this.
>>>
>>> That was the best!
>>>
>>> FWIW, the great bicycle tube and tire shortage was during
>>> the Trump administration.
>>>
>>> Trump should have gotten an award from the National
>>> Bicycle Dealers Association (NBDA) because it was his
>>> horrible botching of the response to the Covid epidemic
>>> that led to the spectacular sales of bicycles, parts, and
>>> accessories.
>>> <https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/16/857157196/bike-sales-gear-up-as-the-homebound-try-socially-distant-exercise>
>>>
>>> Biden, with his competent response to Covid, ended the
>>> pandemic and bicycle sales plunged as people could go
>>> back to other activities.
>>>
>>> During the pandemic, there was a big shortage to tubes
>>> and tires and prices skyrocketed. Now tubes and tires are
>>> readily available and prices have fallen. I just bought
>>> 27.5" Kenda tubes for less than $4 each
>>> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/296093855956>.
>>>
>>> Obama's competent handling of the economy ended the
>>> recession caused by W. "The economy improved markedly
>>> under former President Barack Obama, from the start of
>>> 2009 through the end of 2016. Faced with the specter of
>>> another Great Depression in winter 2009, President Obama
>>> enacted a series of policies that helped the economy
>>> avoid that fate. The economy was growing again by the
>>> second half of 2009, and jobs followed suit by early
>>> 2010. Economic growth continued apace for the rest of
>>> President Obama’s time in office, and job growth logged
>>> its longest expansion on record by early 2017, dating
>>> back to 1939.1 Employment opportunities improved, the
>>> unemployment rate fell, wages eventually increased, and
>>> household debt dropped sharply."
>>>
>>> Biden is reversing the failures of the Trump economy,
>>> with spectacular job growth, low unemployment, and a
>>> record stock market. The inflation caused by the spending
>>> during the pandemic is coming down nicely.
>>>
>>
>> Does the Obama Team (2009~16 and 2021~present) get credit
>> for firearms sales?
>>
>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/249740/percentage-of-households-in-the-united-states-owning-a-firearm/
>
> Indirectly - A large number of people bought into the lie
> spread by the NRA/GOP that Obama was going to take
> everyone's guns.
>
I saw it as another spurious correlation; just trying to
complete the series above.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 12:49:55 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 1/16/2024 9:14 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>
>> I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. Generally speaking I won't miss
>> tommy when he can't post here any more, but I _will_ miss gems like this.
>
>That was the best!
>
>FWIW, the great bicycle tube and tire shortage was during the Trump
>administration.
>
>Trump should have gotten an award from the National Bicycle Dealers
>Association (NBDA) because it was his horrible botching of the response
>to the Covid epidemic that led to the spectacular sales of bicycles,
>parts, and accessories.
><https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/16/857157196/bike-sales-gear-up-as-the-homebound-try-socially-distant-exercise>
>
>Biden, with his competent response to Covid, ended the pandemic and
>bicycle sales plunged as people could go back to other activities.
>
>During the pandemic, there was a big shortage to tubes and tires and
>prices skyrocketed. Now tubes and tires are readily available and prices
>have fallen. I just bought 27.5" Kenda tubes for less than $4 each
><https://www.ebay.com/itm/296093855956>.
>
>Obama's competent handling of the economy ended the recession caused by
>W. "The economy improved markedly under former President Barack Obama,
>from the start of 2009 through the end of 2016. Faced with the specter
>of another Great Depression in winter 2009, President Obama enacted a
>series of policies that helped the economy avoid that fate. The economy
>was growing again by the second half of 2009, and jobs followed suit by
>early 2010. Economic growth continued apace for the rest of President
>Obama’s time in office, and job growth logged its longest expansion on
>record by early 2017, dating back to 1939.1 Employment opportunities
>improved, the unemployment rate fell, wages eventually increased, and
>household debt dropped sharply."
>
>Biden is reversing the failures of the Trump economy, with spectacular
>job growth, low unemployment, and a record stock market. The inflation
>caused by the spending during the pandemic is coming down nicely.

The people aren't buying that...

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/approval-rating

On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 16:22:27 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 1/16/2024 4:19 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/16/2024 2:49 PM, sms wrote:
>>> On 1/16/2024 9:14 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>
>>>> I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. Generally speaking I won't miss
>>>> tommy when he can't post here any more, but I _will_ miss gems like
>>>> this.
>>>
>>> That was the best!
>>>
>>> FWIW, the great bicycle tube and tire shortage was during the Trump
>>> administration.
>>>
>>> Trump should have gotten an award from the National Bicycle Dealers
>>> Association (NBDA) because it was his horrible botching of the
>>> response to the Covid epidemic that led to the spectacular sales of
>>> bicycles, parts, and accessories.
>>> <https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/16/857157196/bike-sales-gear-up-as-the-homebound-try-socially-distant-exercise>
>>>
>>> Biden, with his competent response to Covid, ended the pandemic and
>>> bicycle sales plunged as people could go back to other activities.
>>>
>>> During the pandemic, there was a big shortage to tubes and tires and
>>> prices skyrocketed. Now tubes and tires are readily available and
>>> prices have fallen. I just bought 27.5" Kenda tubes for less than $4
>>> each <https://www.ebay.com/itm/296093855956>.
>>>
>>> Obama's competent handling of the economy ended the recession caused
>>> by W. "The economy improved markedly under former President Barack
>>> Obama, from the start of 2009 through the end of 2016. Faced with the
>>> specter of another Great Depression in winter 2009, President Obama
>>> enacted a series of policies that helped the economy avoid that fate.
>>> The economy was growing again by the second half of 2009, and jobs
>>> followed suit by early 2010. Economic growth continued apace for the
>>> rest of President Obama’s time in office, and job growth logged its
>>> longest expansion on record by early 2017, dating back to 1939.1
>>> Employment opportunities improved, the unemployment rate fell, wages
>>> eventually increased, and household debt dropped sharply."
>>>
>>> Biden is reversing the failures of the Trump economy, with spectacular
>>> job growth, low unemployment, and a record stock market. The inflation
>>> caused by the spending during the pandemic is coming down nicely.
>>>
>>
>> Does the Obama Team (2009~16 and 2021~present) get credit for firearms
>> sales?
>>
>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/249740/percentage-of-households-in-the-united-states-owning-a-firearm/
>
>Indirectly - A large number of people bought into the lie spread by the
>NRA/GOP that Obama was going to take everyone's guns.

During his presidency, Obama called for stricter gun laws and urged
Congress to reinstate the assault weapons ban following the 2016 Pulse
nightclub attack in Orlando, which killed 49 people and wounded dozens
more.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/barack-obama-gun-ownership-growing-ideological-partisan-issue-cbs-mornings-interview/

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 9:14:22 AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
> On 1/16/2024 11:51 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > During Obama and his Great Recession that the Stupid 4+1 don't believe was there hero Obama's fault, pe3ople without work would run their tires until the steel casing broke through and would bleed steel particles all over the road causing bicycles endless problems with flat tires almost constantly. This did NOT stop until Trump entered office and then disappeared almost overnight.
> >
> > Biden trumped Obama by doing the same thing in three years. Perhaps this is one of the reasons that Biden approval ratings are the lowest on record. And Trump's the highest.
> >
> > I have four bikes down in the garage with flat tires and all of them are the slow leaks indicative of worn out car tires shedding wires. When I repair a pin hole flat the next ride is the same problem. One of the tubes I was repairing had six of these micro holes in it. That could be too much trouble to repair so it was trashed and the next ride on that bike had me getting another flat half way into the ride. I could not repair it since I have mistakenly put a short filler tube in it but the leak was so small that I was able to take a short cut home. Yesterday morning it was flat and I had to take out the Di2 bike which I am rapidly coming to despise. My hands become somewhat numb and I cannot tell which button I am pressing.
> >
> > This isn't the case with any manual shifting. To show that this isn't a peculiarity of mine, all of the local bike shops are running out of tubes.
> I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. Generally speaking I won't miss
> tommy when he can't post here any more, but I _will_ miss gems like this.
>
>
> BTW tommy
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Tube-700-48mm-Presta-Valve/dp/B077CT1NY7?th=1
>
> Free overnight delivery with Prime

Don't you find it interesting that Flunky doesn't do business with his local bike shops. Instead he buys things off of Amazon. Do you suppose that is because he can't take the sarcasm about his "racing" abilities?

On 1/16/2024 1:19 PM, AMuzi wrote:

<snip>

> Does the Obama Team (2009~16 and 2021~present) get credit for firearms
> sales?

Absolutely.

A sufficient number of crazies believed that Obama would take their guns
away. Democratic presidents are always better for the firearms industry
because so many stupid people think that they will be unable to purchase
guns or ammunition.

--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 13:58:59 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 1/16/2024 1:19 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> Does the Obama Team (2009~16 and 2021~present) get credit for firearms
>> sales?
>
>Absolutely.
>
>A sufficient number of crazies believed that Obama would take their guns
>away. Democratic presidents are always better for the firearms industry
>because so many stupid people think that they will be unable to purchase
>guns or ammunition.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/barack-obama-gun-ownership-growing-ideological-partisan-issue-cbs-mornings-interview/

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 12:50:00 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
> On 1/16/2024 9:14 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>
> > I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. Generally speaking I won't miss
> > tommy when he can't post here any more, but I _will_ miss gems like this.
> That was the best!
>
> FWIW, the great bicycle tube and tire shortage was during the Trump
> administration.
>
> Trump should have gotten an award from the National Bicycle Dealers
> Association (NBDA) because it was his horrible botching of the response
> to the Covid epidemic that led to the spectacular sales of bicycles,
> parts, and accessories.
> <https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/16/857157196/bike-sales-gear-up-as-the-homebound-try-socially-distant-exercise>
>
> Biden, with his competent response to Covid, ended the pandemic and
> bicycle sales plunged as people could go back to other activities.
>
> During the pandemic, there was a big shortage to tubes and tires and
> prices skyrocketed. Now tubes and tires are readily available and prices
> have fallen. I just bought 27.5" Kenda tubes for less than $4 each
> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/296093855956>.
>
> Obama's competent handling of the economy ended the recession caused by
> W. "The economy improved markedly under former President Barack Obama,
> from the start of 2009 through the end of 2016. Faced with the specter
> of another Great Depression in winter 2009, President Obama enacted a
> series of policies that helped the economy avoid that fate. The economy
> was growing again by the second half of 2009, and jobs followed suit by
> early 2010. Economic growth continued apace for the rest of President
> Obama’s time in office, and job growth logged its longest expansion on
> record by early 2017, dating back to 1939.1 Employment opportunities
> improved, the unemployment rate fell, wages eventually increased, and
> household debt dropped sharply."
>
> Biden is reversing the failures of the Trump economy, with spectacular
> job growth, low unemployment, and a record stock market. The inflation
> caused by the spending during the pandemic is coming down nicely.
>
> --
> “If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
> really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
> indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
> they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

If you had a brain, you'd be dangerous but as it is you don't and aren't. The very person who needs a tin foil hat is the one claiming that others do. Well, at least you're good for a laugh, You're as funny as Flunky who gets his innertubes shipped to him overnight. Who tells us that he isn't getting extra flats, when he isn't riding because of snow.

Biden is the most hated figure in modern history and even Obama, a man in so far over his head that he was a disaster for this nation, says outright that Biden is a crook.

And you are such a first class moron that you THINK that Biden was somehow fixing what Trump broke. Try running on that the next time you run for office.

Anyone that believes that Biden was responsible for 19 million jobs is too stupid to know that returning to a job you held before the Biden lock-down is NOT "job creation" and that the IRS revenue is expecting almost a trillion dollar shortfall.

On 1/16/2024 3:36 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 12:49:55 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/16/2024 9:14 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. Generally speaking I won't miss
>>> tommy when he can't post here any more, but I _will_ miss gems like this.
>>
>> That was the best!
>>
>> FWIW, the great bicycle tube and tire shortage was during the Trump
>> administration.
>>
>> Trump should have gotten an award from the National Bicycle Dealers
>> Association (NBDA) because it was his horrible botching of the response
>> to the Covid epidemic that led to the spectacular sales of bicycles,
>> parts, and accessories.
>> <https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/16/857157196/bike-sales-gear-up-as-the-homebound-try-socially-distant-exercise>
>>
>> Biden, with his competent response to Covid, ended the pandemic and
>> bicycle sales plunged as people could go back to other activities.
>>
>> During the pandemic, there was a big shortage to tubes and tires and
>> prices skyrocketed. Now tubes and tires are readily available and prices
>> have fallen. I just bought 27.5" Kenda tubes for less than $4 each
>> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/296093855956>.
>>
>> Obama's competent handling of the economy ended the recession caused by
>> W. "The economy improved markedly under former President Barack Obama,
>>from the start of 2009 through the end of 2016. Faced with the specter
>> of another Great Depression in winter 2009, President Obama enacted a
>> series of policies that helped the economy avoid that fate. The economy
>> was growing again by the second half of 2009, and jobs followed suit by
>> early 2010. Economic growth continued apace for the rest of President
>> Obama’s time in office, and job growth logged its longest expansion on
>> record by early 2017, dating back to 1939.1 Employment opportunities
>> improved, the unemployment rate fell, wages eventually increased, and
>> household debt dropped sharply."
>>
>> Biden is reversing the failures of the Trump economy, with spectacular
>> job growth, low unemployment, and a record stock market. The inflation
>> caused by the spending during the pandemic is coming down nicely.
>
> The people aren't buying that...
>
> https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/approval-rating

Even John Kerry jumped ship. The remaining rats are at the
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On 1/16/2024 3:58 PM, sms wrote:
> On 1/16/2024 1:19 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Does the Obama Team (2009~16 and 2021~present) get credit
>> for firearms sales?
>
> Absolutely.
>
> A sufficient number of crazies believed that Obama would
> take their guns away. Democratic presidents are always
> better for the firearms industry because so many stupid
> people think that they will be unable to purchase guns or
> ammunition.
>
That turned out to be all hat and no cattle.
Our Constitution, culture and courts remain intact.

I was going for the spurious correlation aspect.
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 16:45:24 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 1/16/2024 3:36 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>> The people aren't buying that...
>> https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/approval-rating

>Even John Kerry jumped ship. The remaining rats are at the
>rail...

Kerry is 80 years old. He plans to work on the Biden re-election
campaign:
<https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/13/john-kerry-biden-administration-re-election-campaign>
That isn't jumping ship.

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On 1/16/2024 5:03 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 16:45:24 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> On 1/16/2024 3:36 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>> The people aren't buying that...
>>> https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/joe-biden/approval-rating
>
>> Even John Kerry jumped ship. The remaining rats are at the
>> rail...
>
> Kerry is 80 years old. He plans to work on the Biden re-election
> campaign:
> <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/13/john-kerry-biden-administration-re-election-campaign>
> That isn't jumping ship.
>
I didn't know that, thanks.
Made for each other...
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On 1/16/2024 2:50 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/16/2024 3:58 PM, sms wrote:
>> On 1/16/2024 1:19 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Does the Obama Team (2009~16 and 2021~present) get credit for
>>> firearms sales?
>>
>> Absolutely.
>>
>> A sufficient number of crazies believed that Obama would take their
>> guns away. Democratic presidents are always better for the firearms
>> industry because so many stupid people think that they will be unable
>> to purchase guns or ammunition.
>>
> That turned out to be all hat and no cattle.
> Our Constitution, culture and courts remain intact.

Exactly. The fear of the gun nuts is that there will be background
checks, not that guns would be unavailable.

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they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

On 1/16/2024 6:03 PM, sms wrote:
> On 1/16/2024 2:50 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/16/2024 3:58 PM, sms wrote:
>>> On 1/16/2024 1:19 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Does the Obama Team (2009~16 and 2021~present) get
>>>> credit for firearms sales?
>>>
>>> Absolutely.
>>>
>>> A sufficient number of crazies believed that Obama would
>>> take their guns away. Democratic presidents are always
>>> better for the firearms industry because so many stupid
>>> people think that they will be unable to purchase guns or
>>> ammunition.
>>>
>> That turned out to be all hat and no cattle.
>> Our Constitution, culture and courts remain intact.
>
> Exactly. The fear of the gun nuts is that there will be
> background checks, not that guns would be unavailable.
>

Well, that's a reasonable extrapolation.
Once everyone registers, confiscation is simpler, as history
shows.
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 16:03:37 -0800, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 1/16/2024 2:50 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/16/2024 3:58 PM, sms wrote:
>>> On 1/16/2024 1:19 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Does the Obama Team (2009~16 and 2021~present) get credit for
>>>> firearms sales?
>>>
>>> Absolutely.
>>>
>>> A sufficient number of crazies believed that Obama would take their
>>> guns away. Democratic presidents are always better for the firearms
>>> industry because so many stupid people think that they will be unable
>>> to purchase guns or ammunition.
>>>
>> That turned out to be all hat and no cattle.
>> Our Constitution, culture and courts remain intact.
>
>Exactly. The fear of the gun nuts is that there will be background
>checks, not that guns would be unavailable.

So why would that spur gun sales?

On 1/16/2024 4:22 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>
> A large number of people bought into the lie spread by the
> NRA/GOP that Obama was going to take everyone's guns.

I know a couple of those guys. They are idiots in other ways as well.

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On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 5:51:13 PM UTC+1, Tom Kunich wrote:
> During Obama and his Great Recession that the Stupid 4+1 don't believe was there hero Obama's fault, pe3ople without work would run their tires until the steel casing broke through and would bleed steel particles all over the road causing bicycles endless problems with flat tires almost constantly.. This did NOT stop until Trump entered office and then disappeared almost overnight.
>
> Biden trumped Obama by doing the same thing in three years. Perhaps this is one of the reasons that Biden approval ratings are the lowest on record. And Trump's the highest.
>
> I have four bikes down in the garage with flat tires and all of them are the slow leaks indicative of worn out car tires shedding wires. When I repair a pin hole flat the next ride is the same problem. One of the tubes I was repairing had six of these micro holes in it. That could be too much trouble to repair so it was trashed and the next ride on that bike had me getting another flat half way into the ride. I could not repair it since I have mistakenly put a short filler tube in it but the leak was so small that I was able to take a short cut home. Yesterday morning it was flat and I had to take out the Di2 bike which I am rapidly coming to despise. My hands become somewhat numb and I cannot tell which button I am pressing.
>
> This isn't the case with any manual shifting. To show that this isn't a peculiarity of mine, all of the local bike shops are running out of tubes. Several of the local shops have been buying the narrower road tubes with Shrader fillers which are still available/ To use these you have to have less depth on the rim and it has to be drilled out for the Shrader filler. So the Stupid 4+1 are going to have to be fitted with tin foil hats because they fully intend to deny it. Even Liebermann who doesn't ride or Slocomb who, if he ever rode a bike, it was so long ago that he forgets what a bike looks like.
>
> November can't come fast enough.

It must be comforting to be able to blame any misfortune you encounter in life on somebody else. It is like religious people saying ‘it was/is God/Allah’s will’. It makes life a lot simpler. We have a lot of those people here too judging the result of the last election believing the new government will solve their problems overnight. Thank god we always have a coalition here instead of red or blue.

Lou

On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 21:37:38 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 1/16/2024 4:22 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
> >
>> A large number of people bought into the lie spread by the
>> NRA/GOP that Obama was going to take everyone's guns.

That was is intent...

In the aftermath of the Orlando terrorist attack, President Barack
Obama today called on Congress to reinstate the assault weapons ban
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-calls-assault-weapons-ban-fly-buy-law/story?id=39846590

>I know a couple of those guys.

No you don't....

On 1/16/2024 4:26 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/16/2024 3:22 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 1/16/2024 4:19 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 1/16/2024 2:49 PM, sms wrote:
>>>> On 1/16/2024 9:14 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. Generally speaking I won't
>>>>> miss tommy when he can't post here any more, but I _will_ miss gems
>>>>> like this.
>>>>
>>>> That was the best!
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, the great bicycle tube and tire shortage was during the Trump
>>>> administration.
>>>>
>>>> Trump should have gotten an award from the National Bicycle Dealers
>>>> Association (NBDA) because it was his horrible botching of the
>>>> response to the Covid epidemic that led to the spectacular sales of
>>>> bicycles, parts, and accessories.
>>>> <https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/16/857157196/bike-sales-gear-up-as-the-homebound-try-socially-distant-exercise>
>>>>
>>>> Biden, with his competent response to Covid, ended the pandemic and
>>>> bicycle sales plunged as people could go back to other activities.
>>>>
>>>> During the pandemic, there was a big shortage to tubes and tires and
>>>> prices skyrocketed. Now tubes and tires are readily available and
>>>> prices have fallen. I just bought 27.5" Kenda tubes for less than $4
>>>> each <https://www.ebay.com/itm/296093855956>.
>>>>
>>>> Obama's competent handling of the economy ended the recession caused
>>>> by W. "The economy improved markedly under former President Barack
>>>> Obama, from the start of 2009 through the end of 2016. Faced with
>>>> the specter of another Great Depression in winter 2009, President
>>>> Obama enacted a series of policies that helped the economy avoid
>>>> that fate. The economy was growing again by the second half of 2009,
>>>> and jobs followed suit by early 2010. Economic growth continued
>>>> apace for the rest of President Obama’s time in office, and job
>>>> growth logged its longest expansion on record by early 2017, dating
>>>> back to 1939.1 Employment opportunities improved, the unemployment
>>>> rate fell, wages eventually increased, and household debt dropped
>>>> sharply."
>>>>
>>>> Biden is reversing the failures of the Trump economy, with
>>>> spectacular job growth, low unemployment, and a record stock market.
>>>> The inflation caused by the spending during the pandemic is coming
>>>> down nicely.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Does the Obama Team (2009~16 and 2021~present) get credit for
>>> firearms sales?
>>>
>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/249740/percentage-of-households-in-the-united-states-owning-a-firearm/
>>
>> Indirectly - A large number of people bought into the lie spread by
>> the NRA/GOP that Obama was going to take everyone's guns.
>>
> I saw it as another spurious correlation; just trying to complete the
> series above.

I realize that, but the same people that bought into that big lie are
the same people who would have taken you seriousy.
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On 1/16/2024 4:40 PM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 16:22:27 -0500, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/16/2024 4:19 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 1/16/2024 2:49 PM, sms wrote:
>>>> On 1/16/2024 9:14 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I haven't laughed this hard in weeks. Generally speaking I won't miss
>>>>> tommy when he can't post here any more, but I _will_ miss gems like
>>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> That was the best!
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, the great bicycle tube and tire shortage was during the Trump
>>>> administration.
>>>>
>>>> Trump should have gotten an award from the National Bicycle Dealers
>>>> Association (NBDA) because it was his horrible botching of the
>>>> response to the Covid epidemic that led to the spectacular sales of
>>>> bicycles, parts, and accessories.
>>>> <https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/16/857157196/bike-sales-gear-up-as-the-homebound-try-socially-distant-exercise>
>>>>
>>>> Biden, with his competent response to Covid, ended the pandemic and
>>>> bicycle sales plunged as people could go back to other activities.
>>>>
>>>> During the pandemic, there was a big shortage to tubes and tires and
>>>> prices skyrocketed. Now tubes and tires are readily available and
>>>> prices have fallen. I just bought 27.5" Kenda tubes for less than $4
>>>> each <https://www.ebay.com/itm/296093855956>.
>>>>
>>>> Obama's competent handling of the economy ended the recession caused
>>>> by W. "The economy improved markedly under former President Barack
>>>> Obama, from the start of 2009 through the end of 2016. Faced with the
>>>> specter of another Great Depression in winter 2009, President Obama
>>>> enacted a series of policies that helped the economy avoid that fate.
>>>> The economy was growing again by the second half of 2009, and jobs
>>>> followed suit by early 2010. Economic growth continued apace for the
>>>> rest of President Obama’s time in office, and job growth logged its
>>>> longest expansion on record by early 2017, dating back to 1939.1
>>>> Employment opportunities improved, the unemployment rate fell, wages
>>>> eventually increased, and household debt dropped sharply."
>>>>
>>>> Biden is reversing the failures of the Trump economy, with spectacular
>>>> job growth, low unemployment, and a record stock market. The inflation
>>>> caused by the spending during the pandemic is coming down nicely.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Does the Obama Team (2009~16 and 2021~present) get credit for firearms
>>> sales?
>>>
>>> https://www.statista.com/statistics/249740/percentage-of-households-in-the-united-states-owning-a-firearm/
>>
>> Indirectly - A large number of people bought into the lie spread by the
>> NRA/GOP that Obama was going to take everyone's guns.
>
>
> During his presidency, Obama called for stricter gun laws and urged
> Congress to reinstate the assault weapons ban

Which wouldn't have taken anyone's guns away, it would have restricted
further sales.

> following the 2016 Pulse
> nightclub attack in Orlando, which killed 49 people and wounded dozens
> more.
>
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/barack-obama-gun-ownership-growing-ideological-partisan-issue-cbs-mornings-interview/

I guess you must have toasted _two_ cognacs for that one...

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