https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64

On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64

What is the relevance?

Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?

On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>
> What is the relevance?
>
> Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?

This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would psot cycling
related topics:

On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>
> This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about
bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.

--
Add xx to reply

On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 4:49:40 PM UTC-8, AK wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>
> What is the relevance?
>
> Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?

Can you think of anything more positive that the two front runners for President both having identical ideas about the border problem and their responsibility under the laws of the US?

On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16 PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
> >
> > What is the relevance?
> >
> > Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?
> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would psot cycling
> related topics:
>
> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
> >
> > This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
> > The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about
> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>
> --
> Add xx to reply
No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you won't tell people to prove that you're important. You aren't.

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 21:31:00 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16?PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55?PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>> >
>> > What is the relevance?
>> >
>> > Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?
>> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would psot cycling
>> related topics:
>>
>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>> >
>> > This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
>> > The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about
>> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>>
>> --
>> Add xx to reply
>No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you won't tell people to prove that you're important. You aren't.

Goodness Gracious Tommy. You've hit the nail on the head.

So the next question is... "When are you going to stop showing off and
trying to tell people that you are some kind of "engineer"? When the
truth is that are an old, broken down guy, living in a crap house in a
slum and trying to make a dollar frigging around with old broken down
bicycles

--
Cheers,

John B.

On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16 PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>>>
>>> What is the relevance?
>>>
>>> Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?
>> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would psot cycling
>> related topics:
>>
>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>>>
>>> This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
>>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about
>> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>>
>> --
>> Add xx to reply
> No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you won't tell people to prove that you're important. You aren't.

lol...and you think you're going to prove that with some bullshit from
YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.

Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of any importance on my
part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich, intelligent,
successful, and accomplished you are on a daily basis, then go and post
' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike' and 'PWM is a
common method of testing cables'.

26 days and counting.

On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16 PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>>>
>>> What is the relevance?
>>>
>>> Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?
>> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would psot cycling
>> related topics:
>>
>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>>>
>>> This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
>>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about
>> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>>
>> --
>> Add xx to reply
> No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you won't tell people to prove that you're important. You aren't.

lol...and you think you're going to prove that with some bullshit from
YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.

Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of any importance on my
part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich, intelligent,
successful, and accomplished you are on a daily basis, then go and post
' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike' and 'PWM is a
common method of testing cables'.

26 days and counting.

On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:10:14 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
> On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16 PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
> >> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
> >>>
> >>> What is the relevance?
> >>>
> >>> Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?
> >> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would psot cycling
> >> related topics:
> >>
> >> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
> >>>
> >>> This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
> >>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about
> >> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Add xx to reply
> > No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you won't tell people to prove that you're important. You aren't.
> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with some bullshit from
> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.
>
> Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of any importance on my
> part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich, intelligent,
> successful, and accomplished you are on a daily basis, then go and post
> ' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike' and 'PWM is a
> common method of testing cables'.
>
> 26 days and counting.
If I boast about how wealthy and accomplished I am it is because I am. If I say that you're a weak stupid fool, it is only because you are.

On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:10:27 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:10:14?AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>> On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16?PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> >> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>> >>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55?PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>> >>>
>> >>> What is the relevance?
>> >>>
>> >>> Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?
>> >> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would psot cycling
>> >> related topics:
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>>
>> >> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>> >>>
>> >>> This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
>> >>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about
>> >> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Add xx to reply
>> > No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you won't tell people to prove that you're important. You aren't.

>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with some bullshit from
>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.

Some "bullshit from YouTube" is a big improvement over your total lack
of proof, substantiation, sources and real numbers.

>> Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of any importance on my
>> part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich, intelligent,
>> successful, and accomplished you are on a daily basis, then go and post
>> ' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike' and 'PWM is a
>> common method of testing cables'.
>>
>> 26 days and counting.

>If I boast about how wealthy and accomplished I am it is because I am.
>If I say that you're a weak stupid fool, it is only because you are.

Tom, you are apparently looking for some sort of acclaim, recognition,
reverence, adulation or worship from the readers of RBT. You want to
be recognized as being wealthy, successful, knowledgeable,
experienced, intelligent etc. Yet, the method by which you try to
achieve this is to insult the very readers whom you want to impress
with your wealth, success, knowledge, experience, intelligence etc. I
would think that is rather counter productive. If I wanted to impress
your readers, the very last thing I would do is insult them or lie to
them. On Usenet, anyone who can write more than one complete sentence
is (in my opinion) in the upper 20% of the USA in intelligence. That
means they're also smart enough to notice multiple problems with your
comments and probably be suspicious of your credibility. Your obvious
lies and insults simply verify this suspicion. You might want to try
a different strategy.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to
remove all doubt" (Generally wrongly to Abraham Lincoln)

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:47:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with some bullshit from
>>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.

Oops. I thought that Tom had written the YouTube comment. Sorry(tm).

>Some "bullshit from YouTube" is a big improvement over your total lack
>of proof, substantiation, sources and real numbers.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:47:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:10:27 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:10:14?AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>>> On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> > On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16?PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>> >> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>>> >>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55?PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>>> >>>
>>> >>> What is the relevance?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?
>>> >> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would psot cycling
>>> >> related topics:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>>> >>>
>>> >>> This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
>>> >>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about
>>> >> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Add xx to reply
>>> > No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you won't tell people to prove that you're important. You aren't.
>
>>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with some bullshit from
>>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.
>
>Some "bullshit from YouTube" is a big improvement over your total lack
>of proof, substantiation, sources and real numbers.
>
>>> Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of any importance on my
>>> part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich, intelligent,
>>> successful, and accomplished you are on a daily basis, then go and post
>>> ' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike' and 'PWM is a
>>> common method of testing cables'.
>>>
>>> 26 days and counting.
>
>>If I boast about how wealthy and accomplished I am it is because I am.
>>If I say that you're a weak stupid fool, it is only because you are.
>
>Tom, you are apparently looking for some sort of acclaim, recognition,
>reverence, adulation or worship from the readers of RBT. You want to
>be recognized as being wealthy, successful, knowledgeable,
>experienced, intelligent etc. Yet, the method by which you try to
>achieve this is to insult the very readers whom you want to impress
>with your wealth, success, knowledge, experience, intelligence etc. I
>would think that is rather counter productive. If I wanted to impress
>your readers, the very last thing I would do is insult them or lie to
>them. On Usenet, anyone who can write more than one complete sentence
>is (in my opinion) in the upper 20% of the USA in intelligence. That
>means they're also smart enough to notice multiple problems with your
>comments and probably be suspicious of your credibility. Your obvious
>lies and insults simply verify this suspicion. You might want to try
>a different strategy.
>
>"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to
>remove all doubt" (Generally wrongly to Abraham Lincoln)

I've been sort of keeping score and I'm becoming to believe that I
have discovered a "Universal Truth".

"If you take any statement made by Tom, or his blond haired Leader,
and reverse the meaning, you will discovered the truth."

Tom alleges "Voter Fraud". If you reverse this to NO voter fraud, you
will find that it agrees with the finding of some 60 court cases
brought by the "red necktie brigade".
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 1/27/2024 4:51 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:47:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with some bullshit from
>>>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.
>
> Oops. I thought that Tom had written the YouTube comment. Sorry(tm).

glad you caught that...lol

>
>> Some "bullshit from YouTube" is a big improvement over your total lack
>> of proof, substantiation, sources and real numbers.
>

On 1/27/2024 3:10 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:10:14 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>> On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16 PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55 PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the relevance?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?
>>>> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would psot cycling
>>>> related topics:
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>>>>>
>>>>> This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
>>>>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about
>>>> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Add xx to reply
>>> No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you won't tell people to prove that you're important. You aren't.
>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with some bullshit from
>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.
>>
>> Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of any importance on my
>> part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich, intelligent,
>> successful, and accomplished you are on a daily basis, then go and post
>> ' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike' and 'PWM is a
>> common method of testing cables'.
>>
>> 26 days and counting.
> If I boast about how wealthy and accomplished I am it is because I am. If I say that you're a weak stupid fool, it is only because you are.

yes tommy, whatever you say is the truth, regardless of how demonstrably
false your claim is....lol

On 1/27/2024 6:13 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:47:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:10:27 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:10:14?AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>>>> On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16?PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55?PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the relevance?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?
>>>>>> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would psot cycling
>>>>>> related topics:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
>>>>>>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about
>>>>>> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Add xx to reply
>>>>> No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you won't tell people to prove that you're important. You aren't.
>>
>>>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with some bullshit from
>>>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.
>>
>> Some "bullshit from YouTube" is a big improvement over your total lack
>> of proof, substantiation, sources and real numbers.
>>
>>>> Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of any importance on my
>>>> part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich, intelligent,
>>>> successful, and accomplished you are on a daily basis, then go and post
>>>> ' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike' and 'PWM is a
>>>> common method of testing cables'.
>>>>
>>>> 26 days and counting.
>>
>>> If I boast about how wealthy and accomplished I am it is because I am.
>>> If I say that you're a weak stupid fool, it is only because you are.
>>
>> Tom, you are apparently looking for some sort of acclaim, recognition,
>> reverence, adulation or worship from the readers of RBT. You want to
>> be recognized as being wealthy, successful, knowledgeable,
>> experienced, intelligent etc. Yet, the method by which you try to
>> achieve this is to insult the very readers whom you want to impress
>> with your wealth, success, knowledge, experience, intelligence etc. I
>> would think that is rather counter productive. If I wanted to impress
>> your readers, the very last thing I would do is insult them or lie to
>> them. On Usenet, anyone who can write more than one complete sentence
>> is (in my opinion) in the upper 20% of the USA in intelligence. That
>> means they're also smart enough to notice multiple problems with your
>> comments and probably be suspicious of your credibility. Your obvious
>> lies and insults simply verify this suspicion. You might want to try
>> a different strategy.
>>
>> "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to
>> remove all doubt" (Generally wrongly to Abraham Lincoln)
>
>
> I've been sort of keeping score and I'm becoming to believe that I
> have discovered a "Universal Truth".
>
> "If you take any statement made by Tom, or his blond haired Leader,
> and reverse the meaning, you will discovered the truth."
>
> Tom alleges "Voter Fraud". If you reverse this to NO voter fraud, you
> will find that it agrees with the finding of some 60 court cases
> brought by the "red necktie brigade".

in America, they are referred to as "magatards"

On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 18:48:12 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/27/2024 6:13 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:47:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:10:27 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:10:14?AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>>>>> On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16?PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55?PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is the relevance?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?
>>>>>>> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would psot cycling
>>>>>>> related topics:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
>>>>>>>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about
>>>>>>> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Add xx to reply
>>>>>> No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you won't tell people to prove that you're important. You aren't.
>>>
>>>>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with some bullshit from
>>>>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.
>>>
>>> Some "bullshit from YouTube" is a big improvement over your total lack
>>> of proof, substantiation, sources and real numbers.
>>>
>>>>> Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of any importance on my
>>>>> part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich, intelligent,
>>>>> successful, and accomplished you are on a daily basis, then go and post
>>>>> ' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike' and 'PWM is a
>>>>> common method of testing cables'.
>>>>>
>>>>> 26 days and counting.
>>>
>>>> If I boast about how wealthy and accomplished I am it is because I am.
>>>> If I say that you're a weak stupid fool, it is only because you are.
>>>
>>> Tom, you are apparently looking for some sort of acclaim, recognition,
>>> reverence, adulation or worship from the readers of RBT. You want to
>>> be recognized as being wealthy, successful, knowledgeable,
>>> experienced, intelligent etc. Yet, the method by which you try to
>>> achieve this is to insult the very readers whom you want to impress
>>> with your wealth, success, knowledge, experience, intelligence etc. I
>>> would think that is rather counter productive. If I wanted to impress
>>> your readers, the very last thing I would do is insult them or lie to
>>> them. On Usenet, anyone who can write more than one complete sentence
>>> is (in my opinion) in the upper 20% of the USA in intelligence. That
>>> means they're also smart enough to notice multiple problems with your
>>> comments and probably be suspicious of your credibility. Your obvious
>>> lies and insults simply verify this suspicion. You might want to try
>>> a different strategy.
>>>
>>> "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to
>>> remove all doubt" (Generally wrongly to Abraham Lincoln)
>>
>>
>> I've been sort of keeping score and I'm becoming to believe that I
>> have discovered a "Universal Truth".
>>
>> "If you take any statement made by Tom, or his blond haired Leader,
>> and reverse the meaning, you will discovered the truth."
>>
>> Tom alleges "Voter Fraud". If you reverse this to NO voter fraud, you
>> will find that it agrees with the finding of some 60 court cases
>> brought by the "red necktie brigade".
>
>in America, they are referred to as "magatards"

I suppose that is the usual American effort to avoid upsetting anyone.
Someone that would have been termed "a lying piece of shit" in years
gone by is now a "magatard".
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 1/27/2024 7:52 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 18:48:12 -0500, zen cycle
> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/27/2024 6:13 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:47:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:10:27 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>>>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:10:14?AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16?PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55?PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is the relevance?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying to creat division?
>>>>>>>> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would psot cycling
>>>>>>>> related topics:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
>>>>>>>>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about
>>>>>>>> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Add xx to reply
>>>>>>> No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you won't tell people to prove that you're important. You aren't.
>>>>
>>>>>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with some bullshit from
>>>>>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.
>>>>
>>>> Some "bullshit from YouTube" is a big improvement over your total lack
>>>> of proof, substantiation, sources and real numbers.
>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of any importance on my
>>>>>> part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich, intelligent,
>>>>>> successful, and accomplished you are on a daily basis, then go and post
>>>>>> ' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike' and 'PWM is a
>>>>>> common method of testing cables'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 26 days and counting.
>>>>
>>>>> If I boast about how wealthy and accomplished I am it is because I am.
>>>>> If I say that you're a weak stupid fool, it is only because you are.
>>>>
>>>> Tom, you are apparently looking for some sort of acclaim, recognition,
>>>> reverence, adulation or worship from the readers of RBT. You want to
>>>> be recognized as being wealthy, successful, knowledgeable,
>>>> experienced, intelligent etc. Yet, the method by which you try to
>>>> achieve this is to insult the very readers whom you want to impress
>>>> with your wealth, success, knowledge, experience, intelligence etc. I
>>>> would think that is rather counter productive. If I wanted to impress
>>>> your readers, the very last thing I would do is insult them or lie to
>>>> them. On Usenet, anyone who can write more than one complete sentence
>>>> is (in my opinion) in the upper 20% of the USA in intelligence. That
>>>> means they're also smart enough to notice multiple problems with your
>>>> comments and probably be suspicious of your credibility. Your obvious
>>>> lies and insults simply verify this suspicion. You might want to try
>>>> a different strategy.
>>>>
>>>> "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to
>>>> remove all doubt" (Generally wrongly to Abraham Lincoln)
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been sort of keeping score and I'm becoming to believe that I
>>> have discovered a "Universal Truth".
>>>
>>> "If you take any statement made by Tom, or his blond haired Leader,
>>> and reverse the meaning, you will discovered the truth."
>>>
>>> Tom alleges "Voter Fraud". If you reverse this to NO voter fraud, you
>>> will find that it agrees with the finding of some 60 court cases
>>> brought by the "red necktie brigade".
>>
>> in America, they are referred to as "magatards"
>
> I suppose that is the usual American effort to avoid upsetting anyone.
> Someone that would have been termed "a lying piece of shit" in years
> gone by is now a "magatard".

magatard = lying piece of shit

On 1/27/2024 5:48 PM, zen cycle wrote:
> On 1/27/2024 6:13 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:47:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
>> <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:10:27 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:10:14?AM UTC-8, zen
>>>> cycle wrote:
>>>>> On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16?PM UTC-8, Zen
>>>>>> Cycle wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55?PM UTC-6,
>>>>>>>> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is the relevance?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you think about keeping things positive instead
>>>>>>>> of trying to creat division?
>>>>>>> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people
>>>>>>> would psot cycling
>>>>>>> related topics:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5,
>>>>>>> cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This Group would be a far better place without the
>>>>>>>> Stupid five..
>>>>>>>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not
>>>>>>>> entirely about
>>>>>>> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Add xx to reply
>>>>>> No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you
>>>>>> won't tell people to prove that you're important. You
>>>>>> aren't.
>>>
>>>>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with
>>>>> some bullshit from
>>>>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.
>>>
>>> Some "bullshit from YouTube" is a big improvement over
>>> your total lack
>>> of proof, substantiation, sources and real numbers.
>>>
>>>>> Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of any
>>>>> importance on my
>>>>> part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich,
>>>>> intelligent,
>>>>> successful, and accomplished you are on a daily basis,
>>>>> then go and post
>>>>> ' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the
>>>>> bike' and 'PWM is a
>>>>> common method of testing cables'.
>>>>>
>>>>> 26 days and counting.
>>>
>>>> If I boast about how wealthy and accomplished I am it is
>>>> because I am.
>>>> If I say that you're a weak stupid fool, it is only
>>>> because you are.
>>>
>>> Tom, you are apparently looking for some sort of acclaim,
>>> recognition,
>>> reverence, adulation or worship from the readers of RBT.
>>> You want to
>>> be recognized as being wealthy, successful, knowledgeable,
>>> experienced, intelligent etc.  Yet, the method by which
>>> you try to
>>> achieve this is to insult the very readers whom you want
>>> to impress
>>> with your wealth, success, knowledge, experience,
>>> intelligence etc.  I
>>> would think that is rather counter productive.  If I
>>> wanted to impress
>>> your readers, the very last thing I would do is insult
>>> them or lie to
>>> them.  On Usenet, anyone who can write more than one
>>> complete sentence
>>> is (in my opinion) in the upper 20% of the USA in
>>> intelligence.  That
>>> means they're also smart enough to notice multiple
>>> problems with your
>>> comments and probably be suspicious of your credibility.
>>> Your obvious
>>> lies and insults simply verify this suspicion.  You might
>>> want to try
>>> a different strategy.
>>>
>>> "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to
>>> speak and to
>>> remove all doubt"  (Generally wrongly to Abraham Lincoln)
>>
>>
>> I've been sort of keeping score and I'm becoming to
>> believe that  I
>> have  discovered a "Universal Truth".
>>
>> "If you take any statement made by Tom, or his blond
>> haired Leader,
>> and reverse the meaning, you  will discovered the truth."
>>
>> Tom alleges "Voter Fraud". If you reverse this to NO voter
>> fraud, you
>> will find that it agrees with the finding of some 60 court
>> cases
>> brought by the  "red necktie brigade".
>
> in America, they are referred to as "magatards"

Thanks for confirming Jamie Diamond's analysis.
--
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am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 1/28/2024 10:29 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/27/2024 5:48 PM, zen cycle wrote:
>> On 1/27/2024 6:13 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:47:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:10:27 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>>>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:10:14?AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16?PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55?PM UTC-6, Tom Kunich
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is the relevance?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying
>>>>>>>>> to creat division?
>>>>>>>> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would psot
>>>>>>>> cycling
>>>>>>>> related topics:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5,
>>>>>>>> cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
>>>>>>>>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely about
>>>>>>>> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Add xx to reply
>>>>>>> No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you won't tell
>>>>>>> people to prove that you're important. You aren't.
>>>>
>>>>>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with some bullshit
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.
>>>>
>>>> Some "bullshit from YouTube" is a big improvement over your total lack
>>>> of proof, substantiation, sources and real numbers.
>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of any importance
>>>>>> on my
>>>>>> part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich, intelligent,
>>>>>> successful, and accomplished you are on a daily basis, then go and
>>>>>> post
>>>>>> ' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike' and
>>>>>> 'PWM is a
>>>>>> common method of testing cables'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 26 days and counting.
>>>>
>>>>> If I boast about how wealthy and accomplished I am it is because I am.
>>>>> If I say that you're a weak stupid fool, it is only because you are.
>>>>
>>>> Tom, you are apparently looking for some sort of acclaim, recognition,
>>>> reverence, adulation or worship from the readers of RBT. You want to
>>>> be recognized as being wealthy, successful, knowledgeable,
>>>> experienced, intelligent etc.  Yet, the method by which you try to
>>>> achieve this is to insult the very readers whom you want to impress
>>>> with your wealth, success, knowledge, experience, intelligence etc.  I
>>>> would think that is rather counter productive.  If I wanted to impress
>>>> your readers, the very last thing I would do is insult them or lie to
>>>> them.  On Usenet, anyone who can write more than one complete sentence
>>>> is (in my opinion) in the upper 20% of the USA in intelligence.  That
>>>> means they're also smart enough to notice multiple problems with your
>>>> comments and probably be suspicious of your credibility. Your obvious
>>>> lies and insults simply verify this suspicion.  You might want to try
>>>> a different strategy.
>>>>
>>>> "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to
>>>> remove all doubt"  (Generally wrongly to Abraham Lincoln)
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been sort of keeping score and I'm becoming to believe that  I
>>> have  discovered a "Universal Truth".
>>>
>>> "If you take any statement made by Tom, or his blond haired Leader,
>>> and reverse the meaning, you  will discovered the truth."
>>>
>>> Tom alleges "Voter Fraud". If you reverse this to NO voter fraud, you
>>> will find that it agrees with the finding of some 60 court cases
>>> brought by the  "red necktie brigade".
>>
>> in America, they are referred to as "magatards"
>
> Thanks for confirming Jamie Diamond's analysis.

I wasnt aware that Jamie Diamond made any political statements

http://www.jamiegdiamond.com/statement.php

On 1/28/2024 9:43 AM, zen cycle wrote:
> On 1/28/2024 10:29 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/27/2024 5:48 PM, zen cycle wrote:
>>> On 1/27/2024 6:13 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:47:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
>>>> <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:10:27 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>>>>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:10:14?AM UTC-8, zen
>>>>>> cycle wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16?PM UTC-8,
>>>>>>>> Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55?PM
>>>>>>>>>> UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is the relevance?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you think about keeping things positive
>>>>>>>>>> instead of trying to creat division?
>>>>>>>>> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more
>>>>>>>>> people would psot cycling
>>>>>>>>> related topics:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5,
>>>>>>>>> cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This Group would be a far better place without the
>>>>>>>>>> Stupid five..
>>>>>>>>>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but
>>>>>>>>>> not entirely about
>>>>>>>>> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Add xx to reply
>>>>>>>> No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you
>>>>>>>> won't tell people to prove that you're important.
>>>>>>>> You aren't.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with
>>>>>>> some bullshit from
>>>>>>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some "bullshit from YouTube" is a big improvement over
>>>>> your total lack
>>>>> of proof, substantiation, sources and real numbers.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of
>>>>>>> any importance on my
>>>>>>> part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich,
>>>>>>> intelligent,
>>>>>>> successful, and accomplished you are on a daily
>>>>>>> basis, then go and post
>>>>>>> ' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the
>>>>>>> bike' and 'PWM is a
>>>>>>> common method of testing cables'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 26 days and counting.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I boast about how wealthy and accomplished I am it
>>>>>> is because I am.
>>>>>> If I say that you're a weak stupid fool, it is only
>>>>>> because you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom, you are apparently looking for some sort of
>>>>> acclaim, recognition,
>>>>> reverence, adulation or worship from the readers of
>>>>> RBT. You want to
>>>>> be recognized as being wealthy, successful, knowledgeable,
>>>>> experienced, intelligent etc.  Yet, the method by which
>>>>> you try to
>>>>> achieve this is to insult the very readers whom you
>>>>> want to impress
>>>>> with your wealth, success, knowledge, experience,
>>>>> intelligence etc.  I
>>>>> would think that is rather counter productive.  If I
>>>>> wanted to impress
>>>>> your readers, the very last thing I would do is insult
>>>>> them or lie to
>>>>> them.  On Usenet, anyone who can write more than one
>>>>> complete sentence
>>>>> is (in my opinion) in the upper 20% of the USA in
>>>>> intelligence.  That
>>>>> means they're also smart enough to notice multiple
>>>>> problems with your
>>>>> comments and probably be suspicious of your
>>>>> credibility. Your obvious
>>>>> lies and insults simply verify this suspicion.  You
>>>>> might want to try
>>>>> a different strategy.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to
>>>>> speak and to
>>>>> remove all doubt"  (Generally wrongly to Abraham Lincoln)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've been sort of keeping score and I'm becoming to
>>>> believe that  I
>>>> have  discovered a "Universal Truth".
>>>>
>>>> "If you take any statement made by Tom, or his blond
>>>> haired Leader,
>>>> and reverse the meaning, you  will discovered the truth."
>>>>
>>>> Tom alleges "Voter Fraud". If you reverse this to NO
>>>> voter fraud, you
>>>> will find that it agrees with the finding of some 60
>>>> court cases
>>>> brought by the  "red necktie brigade".
>>>
>>> in America, they are referred to as "magatards"
>>
>> Thanks for confirming Jamie Diamond's analysis.
>
> I wasnt aware that Jamie Diamond made any political statements
>
> http://www.jamiegdiamond.com/statement.php

It's been very newsy over this last week. Here's the left
wing reportage:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/business/jamie-dimon-trump-maga/index.html

--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 8:03:06 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/28/2024 9:43 AM, zen cycle wrote:
> > On 1/28/2024 10:29 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> >> On 1/27/2024 5:48 PM, zen cycle wrote:
> >>> On 1/27/2024 6:13 PM, John B. wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:47:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
> >>>> <je...@cruzio.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:10:27 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> >>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:10:14?AM UTC-8, zen
> >>>>>> cycle wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16?PM UTC-8,
> >>>>>>>> Zen Cycle wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55?PM
> >>>>>>>>>> UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> What is the relevance?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Can you think about keeping things positive
> >>>>>>>>>> instead of trying to creat division?
> >>>>>>>>> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more
> >>>>>>>>> people would psot cycling
> >>>>>>>>> related topics:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5,
> >>>>>>>>> cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> This Group would be a far better place without the
> >>>>>>>>>> Stupid five..
> >>>>>>>>>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but
> >>>>>>>>>> not entirely about
> >>>>>>>>> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Add xx to reply
> >>>>>>>> No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you
> >>>>>>>> won't tell people to prove that you're important.
> >>>>>>>> You aren't.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with
> >>>>>>> some bullshit from
> >>>>>>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Some "bullshit from YouTube" is a big improvement over
> >>>>> your total lack
> >>>>> of proof, substantiation, sources and real numbers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of
> >>>>>>> any importance on my
> >>>>>>> part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich,
> >>>>>>> intelligent,
> >>>>>>> successful, and accomplished you are on a daily
> >>>>>>> basis, then go and post
> >>>>>>> ' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the
> >>>>>>> bike' and 'PWM is a
> >>>>>>> common method of testing cables'.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 26 days and counting.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> If I boast about how wealthy and accomplished I am it
> >>>>>> is because I am.
> >>>>>> If I say that you're a weak stupid fool, it is only
> >>>>>> because you are.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tom, you are apparently looking for some sort of
> >>>>> acclaim, recognition,
> >>>>> reverence, adulation or worship from the readers of
> >>>>> RBT. You want to
> >>>>> be recognized as being wealthy, successful, knowledgeable,
> >>>>> experienced, intelligent etc. Yet, the method by which
> >>>>> you try to
> >>>>> achieve this is to insult the very readers whom you
> >>>>> want to impress
> >>>>> with your wealth, success, knowledge, experience,
> >>>>> intelligence etc. I
> >>>>> would think that is rather counter productive. If I
> >>>>> wanted to impress
> >>>>> your readers, the very last thing I would do is insult
> >>>>> them or lie to
> >>>>> them. On Usenet, anyone who can write more than one
> >>>>> complete sentence
> >>>>> is (in my opinion) in the upper 20% of the USA in
> >>>>> intelligence. That
> >>>>> means they're also smart enough to notice multiple
> >>>>> problems with your
> >>>>> comments and probably be suspicious of your
> >>>>> credibility. Your obvious
> >>>>> lies and insults simply verify this suspicion. You
> >>>>> might want to try
> >>>>> a different strategy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to
> >>>>> speak and to
> >>>>> remove all doubt" (Generally wrongly to Abraham Lincoln)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I've been sort of keeping score and I'm becoming to
> >>>> believe that I
> >>>> have discovered a "Universal Truth".
> >>>>
> >>>> "If you take any statement made by Tom, or his blond
> >>>> haired Leader,
> >>>> and reverse the meaning, you will discovered the truth."
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom alleges "Voter Fraud". If you reverse this to NO
> >>>> voter fraud, you
> >>>> will find that it agrees with the finding of some 60
> >>>> court cases
> >>>> brought by the "red necktie brigade".
> >>>
> >>> in America, they are referred to as "magatards"
> >>
> >> Thanks for confirming Jamie Diamond's analysis.
> >
> > I wasnt aware that Jamie Diamond made any political statements
> >
> > http://www.jamiegdiamond.com/statement.php
> It's been very newsy over this last week. Here's the left
> wing reportage:
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/business/jamie-dimon-trump-maga/index.html
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> a...@yellowjersey.org
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Krygowski and Flunky aren't bright enough to know what is going on and one wonders what they're going to do as Trump is one of the massive election wins of the century. We can be fairly certain that Liebermann will say that he was always for Trump.

On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 08:09:20 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>We can be fairly certain that Liebermann will say that he was always for Trump.

Wrong (as usual). For the record, I'm a registered Republican. I
threw away my vote and voted for Jill Stein (Green Party) in 2016.
"None of the above" was not an option. When Tru8mp was elected in
2016, I told some friends "Wake me up in 4 years".

I'm fairly sure that Tom will now say something provocative to attract
attention. Probably more lies that will require fact checking.
Normally, I would just post a humorous parody of Tom, but that might
encourage him to manufacture additional lies.

Obligatory bicycle related content: I still have one box of old stock
and guaranteed to leak air Nashbar inner tubes. I was thinking of
inflating a tube with smoke to see where they are leaking. There are
plenty of plans for smoke machines for use as automotive vacuum leak
testers. I haven't found a reliable way to blow smoke into an inner
tube without either extinguishing the smoke source (hot nichrome wire
and baby oil) or turning the smoldering wick into a flame thrower. I
think I may need a better one way air valve:
<https://vosentech.com/index.php/product-category/smoke-machines/>
I'm fairly sure that over-inflating a tube will expand any microscopic
holes and expose any leaks.
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/zvoMWWt328FmNkC4A>
I'm not sure of the exact tube size, but it's the same as the tire
mounted on the bicycle in the photo. Notice that the tire pump gauge
shows almost zero pressure.

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Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 1/28/2024 12:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 08:09:20 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We can be fairly certain that Liebermann will say that he was always for Trump.
>
> Wrong (as usual). For the record, I'm a registered Republican. I
> threw away my vote and voted for Jill Stein (Green Party) in 2016.
> "None of the above" was not an option. When Tru8mp was elected in
> 2016, I told some friends "Wake me up in 4 years".
>
> I'm fairly sure that Tom will now say something provocative to attract
> attention. Probably more lies that will require fact checking.
> Normally, I would just post a humorous parody of Tom, but that might
> encourage him to manufacture additional lies.
>
> Obligatory bicycle related content: I still have one box of old stock
> and guaranteed to leak air Nashbar inner tubes. I was thinking of
> inflating a tube with smoke to see where they are leaking. There are
> plenty of plans for smoke machines for use as automotive vacuum leak
> testers. I haven't found a reliable way to blow smoke into an inner
> tube without either extinguishing the smoke source (hot nichrome wire
> and baby oil) or turning the smoldering wick into a flame thrower. I
> think I may need a better one way air valve:
> <https://vosentech.com/index.php/product-category/smoke-machines/>
> I'm fairly sure that over-inflating a tube will expand any microscopic
> holes and expose any leaks.
> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/zvoMWWt328FmNkC4A>
> I'm not sure of the exact tube size, but it's the same as the tire
> mounted on the bicycle in the photo. Notice that the tire pump gauge
> shows almost zero pressure.
>
>
>

Doesn't take much pressure to find most (over 95%) bicycle
tube leaks. You're right that excessive pressures make their
own failures. That can be a hard line to draw as 'maximum'
varies by tube thickness, uniformity and integrity, all of
which are usually unknown.

Some riders use a moderate inflation and then pass the tube,
a small section at a time, under water. We don't in the shop
obviously but even that is probably more definitive and less
trouble than smoke.
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On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 08:09:20 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 8:03:06?AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 1/28/2024 9:43 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>> > On 1/28/2024 10:29 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>> >> On 1/27/2024 5:48 PM, zen cycle wrote:
>> >>> On 1/27/2024 6:13 PM, John B. wrote:
>> >>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:47:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann
>> >>>> <je...@cruzio.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:10:27 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> >>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:10:14?AM UTC-8, zen
>> >>>>>> cycle wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16?PM UTC-8,
>> >>>>>>>> Zen Cycle wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55?PM
>> >>>>>>>>>> UTC-6, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> What is the relevance?
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you think about keeping things positive
>> >>>>>>>>>> instead of trying to creat division?
>> >>>>>>>>> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more
>> >>>>>>>>> people would psot cycling
>> >>>>>>>>> related topics:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5,
>> >>>>>>>>> cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> This Group would be a far better place without the
>> >>>>>>>>>> Stupid five..
>> >>>>>>>>>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but
>> >>>>>>>>>> not entirely about
>> >>>>>>>>> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>> Add xx to reply
>> >>>>>>>> No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you
>> >>>>>>>> won't tell people to prove that you're important.
>> >>>>>>>> You aren't.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with
>> >>>>>>> some bullshit from
>> >>>>>>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Some "bullshit from YouTube" is a big improvement over
>> >>>>> your total lack
>> >>>>> of proof, substantiation, sources and real numbers.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of
>> >>>>>>> any importance on my
>> >>>>>>> part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich,
>> >>>>>>> intelligent,
>> >>>>>>> successful, and accomplished you are on a daily
>> >>>>>>> basis, then go and post
>> >>>>>>> ' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the
>> >>>>>>> bike' and 'PWM is a
>> >>>>>>> common method of testing cables'.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 26 days and counting.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> If I boast about how wealthy and accomplished I am it
>> >>>>>> is because I am.
>> >>>>>> If I say that you're a weak stupid fool, it is only
>> >>>>>> because you are.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Tom, you are apparently looking for some sort of
>> >>>>> acclaim, recognition,
>> >>>>> reverence, adulation or worship from the readers of
>> >>>>> RBT. You want to
>> >>>>> be recognized as being wealthy, successful, knowledgeable,
>> >>>>> experienced, intelligent etc. Yet, the method by which
>> >>>>> you try to
>> >>>>> achieve this is to insult the very readers whom you
>> >>>>> want to impress
>> >>>>> with your wealth, success, knowledge, experience,
>> >>>>> intelligence etc. I
>> >>>>> would think that is rather counter productive. If I
>> >>>>> wanted to impress
>> >>>>> your readers, the very last thing I would do is insult
>> >>>>> them or lie to
>> >>>>> them. On Usenet, anyone who can write more than one
>> >>>>> complete sentence
>> >>>>> is (in my opinion) in the upper 20% of the USA in
>> >>>>> intelligence. That
>> >>>>> means they're also smart enough to notice multiple
>> >>>>> problems with your
>> >>>>> comments and probably be suspicious of your
>> >>>>> credibility. Your obvious
>> >>>>> lies and insults simply verify this suspicion. You
>> >>>>> might want to try
>> >>>>> a different strategy.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to
>> >>>>> speak and to
>> >>>>> remove all doubt" (Generally wrongly to Abraham Lincoln)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I've been sort of keeping score and I'm becoming to
>> >>>> believe that I
>> >>>> have discovered a "Universal Truth".
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "If you take any statement made by Tom, or his blond
>> >>>> haired Leader,
>> >>>> and reverse the meaning, you will discovered the truth."
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tom alleges "Voter Fraud". If you reverse this to NO
>> >>>> voter fraud, you
>> >>>> will find that it agrees with the finding of some 60
>> >>>> court cases
>> >>>> brought by the "red necktie brigade".
>> >>>
>> >>> in America, they are referred to as "magatards"
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for confirming Jamie Diamond's analysis.
>> >
>> > I wasnt aware that Jamie Diamond made any political statements
>> >
>> > http://www.jamiegdiamond.com/statement.php
>> It's been very newsy over this last week. Here's the left
>> wing reportage:
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/business/jamie-dimon-trump-maga/index.html
>> --
>> Andrew Muzi
>> a...@yellowjersey.org
>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>Krygowski and Flunky aren't bright enough to know what is going on and one wonders what they're going to do as Trump is one of the massive election wins of the century. We can be fairly certain that Liebermann will say that he was always for Trump.

It would seem to say something about the U.S. when a bloke who's
crowning endeavor seems to be sexually assaulting women in Department
Stores is forecast a massive election win "of the century".
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Cheers,

John B.

On 1/28/2024 11:03 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 1/28/2024 9:43 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>> On 1/28/2024 10:29 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 1/27/2024 5:48 PM, zen cycle wrote:
>>>> On 1/27/2024 6:13 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:47:55 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:10:27 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>>>>>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 4:10:14?AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/27/2024 12:31 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 2:15:16?PM UTC-8, Zen Cycle
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/24/2024 7:49 PM, AK wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 5:38:55?PM UTC-6, Tom
>>>>>>>>>>> Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6cQ0NK1T64
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What is the relevance?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you think about keeping things positive instead of trying
>>>>>>>>>>> to creat division?
>>>>>>>>>> This is just tommy showing how he wishes more people would
>>>>>>>>>> psot cycling
>>>>>>>>>> related topics:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 11:09:54 AM UTC-5,
>>>>>>>>>> cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/986D_mm3Twk/m/NTbOFqXWAQAJ
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This Group would be a far better place without the Stupid five..
>>>>>>>>>>> The cite would return to information MOSTLY but not entirely
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> bicycles as it was when Jobst moderated it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Add xx to reply
>>>>>>>>> No, it is simply showing that there no lie that you won't tell
>>>>>>>>> people to prove that you're important. You aren't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> lol...and you think you're going to prove that with some
>>>>>>>> bullshit from
>>>>>>>> YouTube? Gawd yer an idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some "bullshit from YouTube" is a big improvement over your total
>>>>>> lack
>>>>>> of proof, substantiation, sources and real numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nothing I've written here - at any time - boasts of any
>>>>>>>> importance on my
>>>>>>>> part. You _constantly_ write (lie) about how rich, intelligent,
>>>>>>>> successful, and accomplished you are on a daily basis, then go
>>>>>>>> and post
>>>>>>>> ' the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike' and
>>>>>>>> 'PWM is a
>>>>>>>> common method of testing cables'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 26 days and counting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I boast about how wealthy and accomplished I am it is because
>>>>>>> I am.
>>>>>>> If I say that you're a weak stupid fool, it is only because you are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom, you are apparently looking for some sort of acclaim,
>>>>>> recognition,
>>>>>> reverence, adulation or worship from the readers of RBT. You want to
>>>>>> be recognized as being wealthy, successful, knowledgeable,
>>>>>> experienced, intelligent etc.  Yet, the method by which you try to
>>>>>> achieve this is to insult the very readers whom you want to impress
>>>>>> with your wealth, success, knowledge, experience, intelligence
>>>>>> etc.  I
>>>>>> would think that is rather counter productive.  If I wanted to
>>>>>> impress
>>>>>> your readers, the very last thing I would do is insult them or lie to
>>>>>> them.  On Usenet, anyone who can write more than one complete
>>>>>> sentence
>>>>>> is (in my opinion) in the upper 20% of the USA in intelligence.  That
>>>>>> means they're also smart enough to notice multiple problems with your
>>>>>> comments and probably be suspicious of your credibility. Your obvious
>>>>>> lies and insults simply verify this suspicion.  You might want to try
>>>>>> a different strategy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to
>>>>>> remove all doubt"  (Generally wrongly to Abraham Lincoln)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been sort of keeping score and I'm becoming to believe that  I
>>>>> have  discovered a "Universal Truth".
>>>>>
>>>>> "If you take any statement made by Tom, or his blond haired Leader,
>>>>> and reverse the meaning, you  will discovered the truth."
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom alleges "Voter Fraud". If you reverse this to NO voter fraud, you
>>>>> will find that it agrees with the finding of some 60 court cases
>>>>> brought by the  "red necktie brigade".
>>>>
>>>> in America, they are referred to as "magatards"
>>>
>>> Thanks for confirming Jamie Diamond's analysis.
>>
>> I wasnt aware that Jamie Diamond made any political statements
>>
>> http://www.jamiegdiamond.com/statement.php
>
> It's been very newsy over this last week. Here's the left wing reportage:
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/business/jamie-dimon-trump-maga/index.html
>

ISTM that Dimon was simply cautioning democrat politicians that painting
trump supporters with a broad brush is done so at their own peril.

I am under no such peril.
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