On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 11:14:49 PM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 3:00:30 PM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 3:53:36 PM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 2:06:03 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> > > > On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 1:04:00 AM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
> > > > > On 12/10/2023 6:30 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 14:35:07 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > > > > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hard medical studies showing that the government was either erasing or urging doctors not to file VAERS entries (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Got a link to some of these hard medical studies? I couldn't find
> > > > > > any.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Reminder. VAERS data is not intended to be used for demonstrating
> > > > > > cause and effect:
> > > > > > <https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html>
> > > > > > "The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a
> > > > > > vaccine caused the event."
> > > > > > "A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified
> > > > > > vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> that showed that instead of the CDC oft quoted 2% adverse events
> > > > > >> that the ACTUAL number was 65%
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I couldn't find anything with Google search that claimed 65% adverse
> > > > > > effects. If that were true, people who had been vaccinated would be
> > > > > > dropping like flied.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> ...they are entirely unaware that for a vaccine to be considered
> > > > > > "safe" it must have a VAERS rating of 0.01% and a preferred rating of
> > > > > > 0.001%.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Amazing. I wasn't aware that a VAERS rating was required BEFORE a
> > > > > > vaccine could be considered safe. That's really amazing because a
> > > > > > virus is not suppose to be generically available until AFTER it has
> > > > > > been tested and declared safe. It would be difficult to file a VAERS
> > > > > > report for a vaccine prior to it being declared safe for general
> > > > > > consumption. Got a source for those amazing numbers. "preferred
> > > > > > rating" for being safe seems rather odd.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> So by the CDC's OWN RULES a VAERS rating of 2% would have been
> > > > > >> unreleasable and the vaccine companies REGARDLESS of emergency
> > > > > >> authorization held accountable for what would be considered a
> > > > > >> public health threat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As before, I can't seem to find anything under "VAERS approval" or
> > > > > > "VAERS rating". VAERS is a crowd sourced database of complaints
> > > > > > resulting from various vaccines. It's not a testing lab.
> > > > > > <https://vaers.hhs.gov/about.html>
> > > > > > Please show me where it has become a drug safety rating system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Even though it is a FACT
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I usually use a line like that to warn me that what follows is
> > > > > > unlikely to be a fact.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> that all of the mRNA vaccines cause myocarditis (which in adults
> > > > > >> may or may not resolve - that is it may or may not cause permanent
> > > > > >> heart damage)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There has been some conjecture that there is a connection.
> > > > > > <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10216497/>
> > > > > > "Myocarditis rates in people aged 12 to 39 years are around 12.6 cases
> > > > > > per million doses following the second dose of mRNA vaccination.."
> > > > > > Doesn't seem like much of a risk.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> the CDC is STILL recommending that the mRNA vaccines which are
> > > > > >> now forbidden in most of the world, should be used on all people
> > > > > >> including children down to 6 months which will cause permanent
> > > > > >> heart damage to children almost certainly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not really. Here's what really is happening:
> > > > > > "FDA Takes Action on Updated mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines to Better Protect
> > > > > > Against Currently Circulating Variants"
> > > > > > <https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-action-updated-mrna-covid-19-vaccines-better-protect-against-currently-circulating>
> > > > > > Basically, the mRNA vaccines were updated for the latest variants and
> > > > > > the older mRNA vaccines were designated as obsolete or something like
> > > > > > that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> But wait a minute,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I waited a minute, but nothing happened.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> the Stupid 3 only believe the CDC and not large studies by the most
> > > > > >> important medical universities in the world.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Got an example of these large studies?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> An emergency authorization for a shortened testing period MAY NOT be
> > > > > >> issued unless there are not safe alternative methods available..
> > > > > >> So Fauci claimed that there were no alternative means of treatment
> > > > > >> when in fact there were several drugs that were VERY effective using
> > > > > >> off-label (that means using a drug for any other reason than it was
> > > > > >> initially developed to treat) drugs. Fauci lied and people died.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you referring to drinking bleach or injecting disinfectant?
> > > > > > "Outcry after Trump suggests injecting disinfectant as treatment"
> > > > > > <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52407177>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You wrote "...no alternative means of treatment". Please note that
> > > > > > there's a difference between treatment, which occurs after an
> > > > > > infection, and vaccination which is intended to prevent an infection.
> > > > > > Please try not to get these two terms confused. Paxlovid and Lagevrio
> > > > > > are currently the best post infection treatments, while the mRNA based
> > > > > > vaccines are currently the best method of prevention.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > I heard that press conference live. Mr Trump said no such
> > > > > thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > The 'bleach' quip was by a TeeVee comedian later that day
> > > > > and just as Gerald Ford, a graceful accomplished athlete,
> > > > > skier, dancer was pegged as 'clumsy' by a comedian, the
> > > > > label outlived the truth.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Andrew Muzi
> > > > > a...@yellowjersey.org
> > > > > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> > > > >
> > > > For many years in the US the test of newspaper lack of bias, seen at its narrowest filter in libel litigation, was "absence of malice" in the report, by the reporter and his editors, and by the management/owners of the paper.
> > > > >
> > > > Alas, no longer, not since the editor of the Washington Post decided that the peons electing Nixon was a slap in the face for intellectuals, and that therefore the people should be taught a lesson by having their massively elected President destroyed. (I can trace back -- and have in An Election of Patriots -- the decision point further, to Henry Luce's overwhelming desire to elect Eisenhower for the Republicans, in the process of which he essentially licensed television, hitherto limited to vapid entertainment, to enter destructive competition with the Press in political reporting, which eventually brought American media to the sorry state so blatantly obvious today.
> > > > >
> > > > Andre Jute
> > > > Apologies for again introducing common sense and hard knowledge into the quagmire of RBT.
> > > > >
> > > I was too young to pay much attention to politics at that time but when you actually look at Nixon's list of achievements while in office it is rather shocking that the Democrats got away with proclaiming that the worst abuse of power ever was Watergate. Flunky is too young to know anything about Roosevelt putting Americans of Japanese descent into concentration camps but I'm sure that queer is absolutely fine with that while he could be assault on Nixon. He know nothing at all about the man but would be standing in line with Krygowski and Liebermann to condemn him.
> > >
> > Nixon was the president uniquely skilled in foreign relations and policy. He easily found Henry Kissinger, the world's leading historian and proponent of balance of power politics, the underlying principle of mutual assured destruction; Nixon gave Kissinger the opportunity to practice what he preached. Nixon did some great things, and in time will go down as one of the great Presidents. Watergate was mickey mouse skullduggery compared to the shit the Kennedy bros got up to, like the assassination of the Diem brothers. Charles McCarry did a good job in The Tears of Autumn of explaining how it was the ritual elder of the Diem dynasty who procured the assassination of JFK in retaliation. -- AJ
> We almost lost our minds when Russia was moving into Cuba. But we moved into the Ukraine which is a similar predicament.
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Those who do not study history are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana
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