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From: djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject: Re: Doctor Who's Davros reinvention is crucial for disabled fans
Message-ID: <s5qJIs.16J0@kithrup.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 01:16:04 GMT
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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 01:16 UTC

In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>> [Hal Heydt]
>> I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
>> writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
>> meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
>> FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
>> Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
>> Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
>> IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
>> can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>>
>> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>> considered a "laungauge".
>>
>> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
>> yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>>
>In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
>Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
>got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
>also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.

[Hal Heydt]
I started learning to program in 1964...so BASIC, Pascal
languages didn't exist, and neither did microprocessors.

Among languages I forgot mention...SNOBOL.

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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 05:30 UTC

In article <s5qJIs.16J0@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>,
>Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>>> [Hal Heydt]
>>> I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot of years
>>> writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always
>>> meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I started with
>>> FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition).
>>> Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN.
>>> Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages... SPS
>>> IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS. (Points to those that
>>> can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.)
>>>
>>> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>>> considered a "laungauge".
>>>
>>> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>>> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>>> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of. Ah,
>>> yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>>>
>>In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran and
>>Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero' which then
>>got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola 6809 CPU's and I
>>also taught basic/simple programing on those CPU's.
>
>[Hal Heydt]
>I started learning to program in 1964...so BASIC, Pascal
>languages didn't exist, and neither did microprocessors.
>
>Among languages I forgot mention...SNOBOL.

BCPL?
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 by: Daniel65 - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 10:22 UTC

Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 16/12/23 12:16 pm:
> In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>>> [Hal Heydt] I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot
>>> of years writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that
>>> aren't always meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I
>>> started with FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy
>>> transition). Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I
>>> knew FORTRAN. Also learned and/or used a number of assembly
>>> languages... SPS IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS.
>>> (Points to those that can identify the machines or operating
>>> system those apply to.)
>>>
>>> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>>> considered a "laungauge".
>>>
>>> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>>> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>>> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of.
>>> Ah, yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>>>
>> In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran
>> and Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero'
>> which then got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola
>> 6809 CPU's and I also taught basic/simple programing on those
>> CPU's.
>
> [Hal Heydt] I started learning to program in 1964...so BASIC, Pascal
> languages didn't exist, and neither did microprocessors.
>
> Among languages I forgot mention...SNOBOL.
>
Gee Whiz!! Seems almost everyone I meet on UseNet these days is older
than me .... way older!!
--
Daniel

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 by: The Doctor - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 14:21 UTC

In article <uljtpj$2ce6u$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel65 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 16/12/23 12:16 pm:
>> In article <ul9dbu$3khib$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 12/12/23 4:26 pm:
>>>> [Hal Heydt] I *can* write in C, though not well. I spent a lot
>>>> of years writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that
>>>> aren't always meant to be possible. FORTRAN is kind of rusty. I
>>>> started with FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy
>>>> transition). Never learned Pascal. BASIC I get by in because I
>>>> knew FORTRAN. Also learned and/or used a number of assembly
>>>> languages... SPS IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS.
>>>> (Points to those that can identify the machines or operating
>>>> system those apply to.)
>>>>
>>>> Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be
>>>> considered a "laungauge".
>>>>
>>>> And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar
>>>> languages whose names I've forgotten. And the languages that I
>>>> learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of.
>>>> Ah, yes... ALGOL was one of them.
>>>>
>>> In the late 80's/early 90's, I did (little bits of) BASIC, Fortran
>>> and Pascal programing. Some writing in '1' and 'none' i.e. 'Zero'
>>> which then got compiled on to Intel 8085, Zilog Z80 or Motorola
>>> 6809 CPU's and I also taught basic/simple programing on those
>>> CPU's.
>>
>> [Hal Heydt] I started learning to program in 1964...so BASIC, Pascal
>> languages didn't exist, and neither did microprocessors.
>>
>> Among languages I forgot mention...SNOBOL.
>>
>Gee Whiz!! Seems almost everyone I meet on UseNet these days is older
>than me .... way older!!
>--
>Daniel

Ha! Ha!!
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