On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 16:11:51 UTC+1, JohnGavin wrote:

> I know this is strange, but the recordings of Mahler I find most tolerable are the ones led by Boulez.

Agree completely. Bernstein is far too OTT and his melodrama looks silly on video.

On Friday, 18 August 2023 at 03:32:00 UTC+10, Andy Evans wrote:
> On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 16:11:51 UTC+1, JohnGavin wrote:
>
> > I know this is strange, but the recordings of Mahler I find most tolerable are the ones led by Boulez.
> Agree completely. Bernstein is far too OTT and his melodrama looks silly on video.

His first Mahler cycle, wonderfully improved sonically, in a set with the LP covers reproduced on the CD sleeves, is my desert island one. Bernstein had a tendency to drag tempos indulgently in his later recordings, and in general his earlier work in the 50s/60s were his best. As for Boulez, I prefer him as a composer to him as a conductor. If one is playing Mahler, then why give the works over to an analytical surgeon, devoid of showing excess emotion, which imho negates the whole idea of Mahlerian performance. Tennstedt ran Bernstein close in Mahler.

Ray Hall, Taree

On 2023-08-18 00:25:46 +0000, raymond....@gmail.com said:

> On Friday, 18 August 2023 at 03:32:00 UTC+10, Andy Evans wrote:
>> On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 16:11:51 UTC+1, JohnGavin wrote:>> > I
>> know this is strange, but the recordings of Mahler I find most
>> tolerable are the ones led by Boulez.
>> Agree completely. Bernstein is far too OTT and his melodrama looks
>> silly on video.
>
> His first Mahler cycle, wonderfully improved sonically, in a set with
> the LP covers reproduced on the CD sleeves, is my desert island one.
> Bernstein had a tendency to drag tempos indulgently in his later
> recordings, and in general his earlier work in the 50s/60s were his
> best. As for Boulez, I prefer him as a composer to him as a conductor.
> If one is playing Mahler, then why give the works over to an analytical
> surgeon, devoid of showing excess emotion, which imho negates the whole
> idea of Mahlerian performance. Tennstedt ran Bernstein close in Mahler.
>

I prefer Bernstein's Mahler 1 from the first cycle to any other Mahler
1. I think it's the toughest of the symphonies to get right. There's
too much opportunity for a conductor to go hog wild, or not wild
enough. It's all elbows and knees.

Having said that, Tennstedt's live Mahler 2 with the LPO with Yvonne
Kenny et al, is as close to perfection as I've ever heard. I'm with
you, Ray, I like the energy and tension of an emotional recording.

-Owen

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 12:12:29 PM UTC-4, Todd M. McComb wrote:
> In article <c4d85e42-b8c5-4803...@googlegroups.com>,
> Mandryka <howie....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >... - anticipating the furore it would cause and the resulting
> >free PR.
>
> Probably the real reason, yeah... and seems to be working.

Exactly, manufacture a "controversy" and you get a ton of free publicity.

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 2:43:12 PM UTC+2, James Goodzeit wrote:
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 12:12:29 PM UTC-4, Todd M. McComb wrote:
> > In article <c4d85e42-b8c5-4803...@googlegroups.com>,
> > Mandryka <howie....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >... - anticipating the furore it would cause and the resulting
> > >free PR.
> >
> > Probably the real reason, yeah... and seems to be working.
> Exactly, manufacture a "controversy" and you get a ton of free publicity.

nonetheless, the nose isn't going to cut it.
if the sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll content isn't foregrounded there is not going to be a big audience.

On 8/18/2023 8:43 AM, James Goodzeit wrote:
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 12:12:29 PM UTC-4, Todd M. McComb wrote:
>> In article <c4d85e42-b8c5-4803...@googlegroups.com>,
>> Mandryka <howie....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ... - anticipating the furore it would cause and the resulting
>>> free PR.
>>
>> Probably the real reason, yeah... and seems to be working.
>
> Exactly, manufacture a "controversy" and you get a ton of free publicity.

There is an excellent Slate article on the "controversy" here:

https://tinyurl.com/mrydayws

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 9:14:00 AM UTC-4, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 8/17/2023 3:37 AM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 12:42:15 PM UTC+10, Frank Berger wrote:
> >
> >> I would like to have been in the meeting in which the writers, producers, director, actors decided to give Cooper a considerable larger nose that Bernstein himself had. I don't think for a second that any of these people were antisemitic, but why would they do that? A character playing Fanny Brice has to have physical defect, whether the nose, a la Streisand, or the teeth, a la Mimi Hines or the weight, a la Beanie Feldstein. I don't know what defects the other actresses playing Brice had. These defects were sort of integral to the story. I don't recall Bernstein's nose ever having been an issue. Strange.
> >
> > I don't know if you've ever seen the film of "Cyrano de Bergerac" with Gerard Depardieu, music by Jean-Claude Petit, but the person who created the schnozz got a special mention in the credits.
> >
> > Andrew Clarke
> > Canberra
> Sure, but his nose was integral to the story. Bernstein's wasn't. Not having ever read anything about Bernstein's life, I don't know that his Jewishness played a major part even aside from the nose.
Pitiful
Read about his Kaddish Symphony and his relationship with the Israel Philharmonic.

On Friday, 18 August 2023 at 15:07:38 UTC+1, Herman wrote:

> if the sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll content isn't foregrounded there is not going to be a big audience.

European cinema turns out films with a high artistic content year after year.

Why does the USA have to dumb down everything?

In article <bce80c8a-9993-4c44-8883-c72e342a3f51n@googlegroups.com>,
Andy Evans <performanceandmedia@gmail.com> wrote:
>Why does the USA have to dumb down everything?

They want dumb people to believe they know best. It's why USA
invented marketing.

On 8/18/2023 12:08 PM, Norman Schwartz wrote:
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 9:14:00 AM UTC-4, Frank Berger wrote:
>> On 8/17/2023 3:37 AM, Andrew Clarke wrote:
>>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 12:42:15 PM UTC+10, Frank Berger wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like to have been in the meeting in which the writers, producers, director, actors decided to give Cooper a considerable larger nose that Bernstein himself had. I don't think for a second that any of these people were antisemitic, but why would they do that? A character playing Fanny Brice has to have physical defect, whether the nose, a la Streisand, or the teeth, a la Mimi Hines or the weight, a la Beanie Feldstein. I don't know what defects the other actresses playing Brice had. These defects were sort of integral to the story. I don't recall Bernstein's nose ever having been an issue. Strange.
>>>
>>> I don't know if you've ever seen the film of "Cyrano de Bergerac" with Gerard Depardieu, music by Jean-Claude Petit, but the person who created the schnozz got a special mention in the credits.
>>>
>>> Andrew Clarke
>>> Canberra
>> Sure, but his nose was integral to the story. Bernstein's wasn't. Not having ever read anything about Bernstein's life, I don't know that his Jewishness played a major part even aside from the nose.
> Pitiful
> Read about his Kaddish Symphony and his relationship with the Israel Philharmonic.

I know all about that.

On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 21:32:28 -0400, Owen Hartnett
<ads@clipboardinc.com> wrote:

>P.S. Now all he'll be known for is his nose.

I wonder if anyone has tried to make an issue of whether or not Cooper
is circumcised.

On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, Owen Hartnett wrote:

> On 2023-08-17 08:02:19 +0000, Andy Evans said:
>
>> Can anyone think of any really good films about musicians?
>> I can only think of one that seemed to catch the actual reality of being a
>> musician - Doggin' Around, with Elliott Gould as an ageing jazz pianist
>> hired to tour a load of seedy clubs in Northern England - funny and full of
>> wise cracks, with excellent support from the musicians of Ronnie Scott's
>> band. Well worth watching on YT:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZck9mCbzdM&t=1s
>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0127519/
>
> Uh...? Amadeus? Mahler?
>
> Mahler may not be anyone's cup of tea, but Amadeus is quite highly regarded.
>
> Not considering accuracy, because anything Hollywood does, accuracy is the
> first to go. I'm considering only "good films."
>
> -Owne

Hollywood? "Mahler" was a British film, and Amadeus written by a Brit
playwright and directed by a Czech. You are being too protective of
Andy's sensibilities. :)

How anyone can suggest Ken Russell as an answer to the question is beyobd
me, but maybe that's just me.
--
Al Eisner

On 2023-08-21 22:03:43 +0000, Al Eisner said:

> On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, Owen Hartnett wrote:
>
>> On 2023-08-17 08:02:19 +0000, Andy Evans said:
>>
>>> Can anyone think of any really good films about musicians?
>>> I can only think of one that seemed to catch the actual reality of
>>> being a musician - Doggin' Around, with Elliott Gould as an ageing jazz
>>> pianist hired to tour a load of seedy clubs in Northern England - funny
>>> and full of wise cracks, with excellent support from the musicians of
>>> Ronnie Scott's band. Well worth watching on YT:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZck9mCbzdM&t=1s
>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0127519/
>>
>> Uh...? Amadeus? Mahler?
>>
>> Mahler may not be anyone's cup of tea, but Amadeus is quite highly regarded.
>>
>> Not considering accuracy, because anything Hollywood does, accuracy is
>> the first to go. I'm considering only "good films."
>>
>> -Owne
>
> Hollywood? "Mahler" was a British film, and Amadeus written by a Brit
> playwright and directed by a Czech. You are being too protective of
> Andy's sensibilities. :)

Didn't mean to invade the Czech republic over Amadeus. I can
commiserate with Andy mostly because of the majority of bad films about
music, like "The Eddy Duchin Story" and most of the "please interrupt
my practicing for a torrid love affair which will help me win the
competition" and the like. I haven't seen "Lisztomania" yet, but I
intend to at some unannounced date to keep the secret police from
breaking into my home and stealing my DVD player.

>
> How anyone can suggest Ken Russell as an answer to the question is beyobd
> me, but maybe that's just me.

Purely a matter of taste, probably my lack of.

Absolutely hated "Whiplash."

-Owen

On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 8:43:47 PM UTC-7, Owen Hartnett wrote:
> On 2023-08-21 22:03:43 +0000, Al Eisner said:
>
> > On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, Owen Hartnett wrote:
> >
> >> On 2023-08-17 08:02:19 +0000, Andy Evans said:
> >>
> >>> Can anyone think of any really good films about musicians?

https://www.google.com/search?q=movies+about+musicians&sca_esv=558970703&source=hp&ei=czjkZJvmHsrLkPIPkbe2IA&iflsig=AD69kcEAAAAAZORGgxoEG_pX4TCpP98LLdDv4BI82V8g&ved=0ahUKEwjb64Hzte-AAxXKJUQIHZGbDQQQ4dUDCAs&uact=5&oq=movies+about+musicians&gs_lp=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&sclient=gws-wiz

On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 8:43:47 PM UTC-7, Owen Hartnett wrote:
> On 2023-08-21 22:03:43 +0000, Al Eisner said:
>
> > On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, Owen Hartnett wrote:
> >
> >> On 2023-08-17 08:02:19 +0000, Andy Evans said:
> >>
> >>> Can anyone think of any really good films about musicians?
> >>> I can only think of one that seemed to catch the actual reality of
> >>> being a musician - Doggin' Around, with Elliott Gould as an ageing jazz
> >>> pianist hired to tour a load of seedy clubs in Northern England - funny
> >>> and full of wise cracks, with excellent support from the musicians of
> >>> Ronnie Scott's band. Well worth watching on YT:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZck9mCbzdM&t=1s
> >>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0127519/
> >>
> >> Uh...? Amadeus? Mahler?
> >>
> >> Mahler may not be anyone's cup of tea, but Amadeus is quite highly regarded.
> >>
> >> Not considering accuracy, because anything Hollywood does, accuracy is
> >> the first to go. I'm considering only "good films."
> >>
> >> -Owne
> >
> > Hollywood? "Mahler" was a British film, and Amadeus written by a Brit
> > playwright and directed by a Czech...

(2023 Y. upload):

"The Greatness of Amadeus | Envy vs Appreciation"

On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 04:43:47 UTC+1, Owen Hartnett wrote:

> I can > commiserate with Andy mostly because of the majority of bad films about
> music, like "The Eddy Duchin Story" and most of the "please interrupt
> my practicing for a torrid love affair which will help me win the
> competition" and the like.
> -Owen

Letter From An Unknown Woman is just such a "torrid love affair" with a pianist, but it's actually a good film - Joan Fontaine and Louis Jourdan. The music is rather incidental, which is probably the most reliable way to incorporate musicians in films.

On Tue, 22 Aug 2023, Andy Evans wrote:

> On Tuesday, 22 August 2023 at 04:43:47 UTC+1, Owen Hartnett wrote:
>
> > I can > commiserate with Andy mostly because of the majority of bad films about
>> music, like "The Eddy Duchin Story" and most of the "please interrupt
>> my practicing for a torrid love affair which will help me win the
>> competition" and the like.
>> -Owen
>
> Letter From An Unknown Woman is just such a "torrid love affair" with a pianist, but it's actually a good film - Joan Fontaine and Louis Jourdan. The music is rather incidental, which is probably the most reliable way to incorporate musicians in films.

What about "Tous les Matins du Monde"? I recall that as being rather
absorbing.
--
Al Eisner

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 6:32:41 PM UTC-7, Owen Hartnett wrote:
> The movie isn't out yet, but it's a big item on NBC news.
>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bradley-cooper-prosthetic-nose-leonard-bernstein-maestro-jewface-rcna100137
>
>
> I'm not Jewish, but I would think that Bernstein himself would feel
> more offended by the summary of his life in the second paragraph. He
> gets smaller billing than Bradley Cooper, who portrays him:
>
> "The biographical romance, which [Bradley} Cooper co-wrote, produced
> and directed, tells the story of Bernstein, who famously co-created
> "West Side Story," with a focus on the composer's 25-year marriage to
> Felicia Montealegre."
>
> "who famously co-created "West Side Story"
>
> That was the extent of his career? Dang! I could've sworn he was
> famous for a bit more than that!
>
> -Owen
>
> P.S. Now all he'll be known for is his nose.
>
> -O

https://www.wfmt.com/2023/08/18/composer-bernsteins-children-defend-bradley-coopers-prosthetic-nose-after-maestro-is-criticized

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 6:32:41 PM UTC-7, Owen Hartnett wrote:
> The movie isn't out yet, but it's a big item on NBC news.
>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bradley-cooper-prosthetic-nose-leonard-bernstein-maestro-jewface-rcna100137
>
>
> I'm not Jewish, but I would think that Bernstein himself would feel
> more offended by the summary of his life in the second paragraph. He
> gets smaller billing than Bradley Cooper, who portrays him:
>
> "The biographical romance, which [Bradley} Cooper co-wrote, produced
> and directed, tells the story of Bernstein, who famously co-created
> "West Side Story," with a focus on the composer's 25-year marriage to
> Felicia Montealegre."
>
> "who famously co-created "West Side Story"
>
> That was the extent of his career? Dang! I could've sworn he was
> famous for a bit more than that!
>
> -Owen
>
> P.S. Now all he'll be known for is his nose.
>
> -O

https://deadline.com/2023/09/maestro-world-premiere-bradley-cooper-venice-film-festival-1235534956/

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 12:32:00 PM UTC-5, Andy Evans wrote:
> On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 16:11:51 UTC+1, JohnGavin wrote:
>
> > I know this is strange, but the recordings of Mahler I find most tolerable are the ones led by Boulez.
> Agree completely. Bernstein is far too OTT and his melodrama looks silly on video.

Nothing wrong with your taste, but Lenny's best Mahler is entirely winning, whatever the visuals - at least to my ears. (Yes, I also like Tennstedt and other conductors willing to dial things to 11.) You actually hear something objectionable in the New York Mahler 7? And I'm not picking that one just because Boulez's is stone-cold, but because I can't really imagine anyone who likes the piece not finding that an exceptional performance.

On 2023-09-04 1:09 p.m., mswd...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 12:32:00 PM UTC-5, Andy Evans wrote:
>> On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 16:11:51 UTC+1, JohnGavin wrote:
>>
>>> I know this is strange, but the recordings of Mahler I find most tolerable are the ones led by Boulez.
>> Agree completely. Bernstein is far too OTT and his melodrama looks silly on video.
>
> Nothing wrong with your taste, but Lenny's best Mahler is entirely winning, whatever the visuals - at least to my ears. (Yes, I also like Tennstedt and other conductors willing to dial things to 11.) You actually hear something objectionable in the New York Mahler 7? And I'm not picking that one just because Boulez's is stone-cold, but because I can't really imagine anyone who likes the piece not finding that an exceptional performance.

Do Mahler lovers ever agree on which are the best performances?

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 12:09:13 PM UTC-7, mswd...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 12:32:00 PM UTC-5, Andy Evans wrote:
> > On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 16:11:51 UTC+1, JohnGavin wrote:
> >
> > > I know this is strange, but the recordings of Mahler I find most tolerable are the ones led by Boulez.
> > Agree completely. Bernstein is far too OTT and his melodrama looks silly on video.
> Nothing wrong with your taste, but Lenny's best Mahler is entirely winning, whatever the visuals - at least to my ears. (Yes, I also like Tennstedt....

https://www.wfmt.com/2023/10/01/live-mahler-performances-by-klaus-tennstedt-i

On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 2:37:22 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
> On Monday, September 4, 2023 at 12:09:13 PM UTC-7, mswd...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 12:32:00 PM UTC-5, Andy Evans wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 17 August 2023 at 16:11:51 UTC+1, JohnGavin wrote:
> > >
> > > > I know this is strange, but the recordings of Mahler I find most tolerable are the ones led by Boulez.
> > > Agree completely. Bernstein is far too OTT and his melodrama looks silly on video.
> > Nothing wrong with your taste, but Lenny's best Mahler is entirely winning, whatever the visuals - at least to my ears. (Yes, I also like Tennstedt...
>
> https://www.wfmt.com/2023/10/01/live-mahler-performances-by-klaus-tennstedt-i

(2023 Y. upload):

"Reaction to "Mahler's Symphony #8 Part I" by Klaus Tennstedt & London Philharmonic Orch."

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 6:32:41 PM UTC-7, Owen Hartnett wrote:
> The movie isn't out yet, but it's a big item on NBC news.
>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bradley-cooper-prosthetic-nose-leonard-bernstein-maestro-jewface-rcna100137
>
>
> I'm not Jewish, but I would think that Bernstein himself would feel
> more offended by the summary of his life in the second paragraph. He
> gets smaller billing than Bradley Cooper, who portrays him:
>
> "The biographical romance, which [Bradley} Cooper co-wrote, produced
> and directed, tells the story of Bernstein, who famously co-created
> "West Side Story," with a focus on the composer's 25-year marriage to
> Felicia Montealegre."
>
> "who famously co-created "West Side Story"
>
> That was the extent of his career? Dang! I could've sworn he was
> famous for a bit more than that!
>
> -Owen
>
> P.S. Now all he'll be known for is his nose.
>
> -O

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On Friday, 8 September 2023 at 04:02:42 UTC+10, Notsure01 wrote:
> I'm stuck at home again due to illness, so in addition to posting
> feverishly I've been catching up with unfamiliar works.
>
> I'm greatly enjoying Handel's Giulio Cesare with the video from
> Glyndebourne on Medici. It is well played and beautifully sung. The
> production is somewhat camped up but works - I just don't know the point
> of having the Romans dressed as soldiers from the Boer wars - looks like
> the extras in "Zulu"! Seems that only excerpts are available on YT:
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlEOtOM9_dCnkpqgq8KRRDkfnwAjKILAj
>
> I am also starting to listen to Lutosławski. I was expecting his music
> might be difficult, but found his Cello Concerto to be accessible and
> greatly enjoyable at my first hearing. I have the version with Heinrich
> Schiff and the composer on CD - but liked even more a Yo Yo Ma
> performance on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cyt-Wl5uGA
>
> Any other recommendations for Lutosławski works?

Wit on Naxos does all the orchestral works very well. There is a box available, but I have them singly. Lutoslawski doing Lutoslawski is also available on Brilliant but I'm not sure if it as comprehensive. The Naxos notes are very good.

Ray Hall, Taree
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On 9/19/23 9:34 AM, Gerard wrote:
> Op dinsdag 19 september 2023 om 05:08:59 UTC+2 schreef rec.music.classical.recordings:
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>> Bruckner himself has made different versions (revisions or whatever they are named) of some of his symphonies. Why should one play the "original" versions in those cases?
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The four symphonies of Alb�ric Magnard, the BIS recordings with Thomas
Sanderling conducting the Malmo Symphony Orchestra. I haven't listened
to these in a number of years, but they are all well worth hearing
and re-hearing. I regard #4 as a masterpiece, and would put the
second half of #3 in the same category.

The music is French lagte-romantic, on the Germanic side of things
(Magnard was a student of d'Indy). There are places which sound
more like Mahler than like anything else (e.g., in the first movement
of #4). Ironically (?) Magnard died after shooting a member of the
invading German army whom he found on his land. The retaliatory
fire also destroyed much of his work. I'm a bit surprised that
the Berlin Philharmonic digital archive contains no Magnad.

Performance are very fine, always convincingly paced, and the recorded
sound seems excellent.
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Al Eisner
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