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 by: Gerard - Wed, 1 Nov 2023 10:11 UTC

Is it a trend? Discs with recordings of different composers living or working in Venice around 1720 - in Vivaldi's time.

"Grand Tour a Venezia" - works by Heinichen,Lotti, Pisendel, Veracini, Vivaldi, Zelenka
- Zefiro (Arcana)

"Concerto Veneziano" - works by Locatelli, Tartini, Vivaldi
- Carmignola, Marcon, Venice Baroque Orchestra (Archiv)

"Duello d'archi a Venezia" - works by Locatelli, Tartini, Veracini, Vivaldi
- Siranossian, Marcon, Venice Baroque Orchestra (alpha)

"Lost in Venice" - works by Marcello, Veracini, Vivaldi
- Makarenko, Infermi d'amore (Eudora Records)

"Venice: The Golden Age" - works by Marcello, Porta, Rom, Tessarini, Vivaldi
- Akademie für Alte Musik, Xenia Löffler, Georg Kallweit (harmonia mundi)

Also a few recordings by Chandler with La Serenissima.
The "programs" on those discs are much more various and attractive than discs with 7 or 8 violin concertos by Vivaldi.

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 by: Herman - Wed, 1 Nov 2023 19:50 UTC

String Quartet nr 12 by Darius Milhaud.
Published in 1945, dedicated to Gabriel Fauré memory.
Quatuor Parisii

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 by: Frank Berger - Wed, 1 Nov 2023 20:29 UTC

On 11/1/2023 3:50 PM, Herman wrote:
> String Quartet nr 12 by Darius Milhaud.
> Published in 1945, dedicated to Gabriel Fauré memory.
> Quatuor Parisii

This is equivalent to a blind link. No comment, no question, no discussion.

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 by: Herman - Wed, 1 Nov 2023 20:39 UTC

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:29:41 PM UTC+1, Frank Berger wrote:
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> This is equivalent to a blind link. No comment, no question, no discussion.

In the WAYLTL topic people just post what they're listening to. No discussion.

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 by: Todd M. McComb - Wed, 1 Nov 2023 20:44 UTC

In article <3f11e093-272b-478e-8378-ae4323e42bd5n@googlegroups.com>,
Herman <herstx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In the WAYLTL topic people just post what they're listening to.

Yes. And the blind links don't say what they are! They're utterly
useless unless one visits a web site (without being given a reason
why).

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 by: Dan Koren - Wed, 1 Nov 2023 22:43 UTC

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 12:50:46 PM UTC-7, Herman wrote:
> String Quartet nr 12 by Darius Milhaud.
> Published in 1945, dedicated to Gabriel
> Fauré memory. Quatuor Parisii

Record or CD catalog number please?

Or a link to a streaming service that
others can use to listen? Otherwise
no one can tell if you actually heard
it, or if you just filled your ears with
cow shit.

dk

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 by: Dan Koren - Wed, 1 Nov 2023 22:45 UTC

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 1:39:46 PM UTC-7, Herman wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:29:41 PM UTC+1, Frank Berger wrote:
> >
> > This is equivalent to a blind link. No comment, no question, no discussion.
> In the WAYLTL topic people just post what they're listening to. No discussion.

So what? Others can start discussions if they have something to say.

You seem to be making up rules on the fly for this ng.

Cheers

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 by: Dan Koren - Wed, 1 Nov 2023 22:47 UTC

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 1:29:41 PM UTC-7, Frank Berger wrote:
> On 11/1/2023 3:50 PM, Herman wrote:
> > String Quartet nr 12 by Darius Milhaud.
> > Published in 1945, dedicated to Gabriel
> > Fauré memory. Quatuor Parisii
>
> This is equivalent to a blind link. No
> comment, no question, no discussion.

No, it isn't. It is far less then a "blind link".
It doesn't point to any information at all,
however irrelevant. It only reminds us of
Herman's chronical tinnitus.

Cheers

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 by: Herman - Thu, 2 Nov 2023 09:08 UTC

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:39:46 PM UTC+1, Herman wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 9:29:41 PM UTC+1, Frank Berger wrote:
> >
> > This is equivalent to a blind link. No comment, no question, no discussion.
> In the WAYLTL topic people just post what they're listening to. No discussion.

There are no rules and there is no moderator. The title of this topic, every month, is What Are You Listening To. It's not rocket science. The idea is to just mention what you're listening to and keep it simple.
The idea is not: slagging off what said posters are listening to, tell them they should be listening to something else. Nor is the idea to cast doubt on whether they were really listening to said record, which is about the silliest infantile thing I ever saw.
The idea is not necessarily that people should listen (or pretend to listen) to what I was listening to. I get no kick out of that.
However, if I mention that I listened to Milhaud's string quartet nr 12, and you want to hear that, too, the easiest thing to do is just to go to youtube and type milhaud 12 quartet and you're there. You could have done this in the time you're taking up bandwidth with complaining about lack of link, suggesting I did not listen to Milhaud at all, or that I suffer from tinnitus which I don't.

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 by: Chris J. - Thu, 2 Nov 2023 11:08 UTC

On 1 Nov 2023 Gerard wrote:

> Is it a trend? Discs with recordings of different composers living or
> working in Venice around 1720 - in Vivaldi's time.

A trend? I don't know.

BTW, Hasse (1699-1783) spent the winter of 1732/33 there, when Vivaldi
(1678–1741) was still around, owned a house in Venice since 1735 and lived
in that city during the final 10 years of his life.

Anyway, I have explored an 8CD box with J.S. Bach's solo concertos (5CDs)
and violin sonatas (3CDs) by Musica Alta Ripa, a smallish German period
instruments ensemble.

<https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/johann-sebastian-bach-solo-
konzerte-sonaten/hnum/8751069?lang=en>

I was going to recommend it, but the box is now OOP unfortunately. The
recordings were originally on MDG.

Chris

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On Wednesday, 1 November 2023 at 20:44:45 UTC, Todd M. McComb wrote:
> In article <3f11e093-272b-478e...@googlegroups.com>,
> Herman <her...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >In the WAYLTL topic people just post what they're listening to.
> Yes. And the blind links don't say what they are! They're utterly
> useless unless one visits a web site (without being given a reason
> why).

Please tell that to DK......

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On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 12:52:06 PM UTC+1, Andy Evans wrote:

> Please tell that to DK......

Let's not. he's a troll.

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 by: Gerard - Thu, 2 Nov 2023 13:47 UTC

Op donderdag 2 november 2023 om 12:08:13 UTC+1 schreef Chris J.:
> On 1 Nov 2023 Gerard wrote:
>
> > Is it a trend? Discs with recordings of different composers living or
> > working in Venice around 1720 - in Vivaldi's time.
> A trend? I don't know.
>
> BTW, Hasse (1699-1783) spent the winter of 1732/33 there, when Vivaldi
> (1678–1741) was still around, owned a house in Venice since 1735 and lived
> in that city during the final 10 years of his life.
>
> Anyway, I have explored an 8CD box with J.S. Bach's solo concertos (5CDs)
> and violin sonatas (3CDs) by Musica Alta Ripa, a smallish German period
> instruments ensemble.
>
> <https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/johann-sebastian-bach-solo-
> konzerte-sonaten/hnum/8751069?lang=en>
>
> I was going to recommend it, but the box is now OOP unfortunately. The
> recordings were originally on MDG.
>
> Chris

I don't know any work by Hasse, or any fine recording of his works. Do you have recommendations?

I have that Musica Alta Ripa box ( actually a slipcase with 5 cds) with the solo concertos.
These recordings are no favorite of mine, but sometimes I like listening to them.
But I'm not going to recommend it ;-)
A first recommendation is Café Zimmermann - also OOP of course ("Temporarily out of stock." - meaning: it's on MP3s only).

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 by: Paul Goodman - Thu, 2 Nov 2023 17:47 UTC

I just started listening to Civilization Phase 3 by Frank Zappa. There is
some amazing stuff here and I can’t help but think that he was influenced
somewhat by Harry Partch and Edgard Varese although I haven’t seen anything
in writing to support that. Just a feeling.


Paul Goodman

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Kind of a mixed bag for me, have eclectic taste.

Harmonia Mundi LP HMO 30,579 French pressing of a Compenius Frederiksborg organ recital played by Francis Chapelet. It sounds much better than the US Odyssey version. This was part of their historic organ series and was left out of the CD box set. It is a delightful organ with wonderful reed stops.

RCA LP LM1727 of Bartok's Sonata for Two Pianos and Percussion conducted by Stokowski. I have heard perhaps a dozen other recordings and this one seems best to me, phrased like music and not just sonic impact. It needs a mono cartridge to sound good. I am not aware of a CD release.

For something reasonably new a Norwegian CD (LAWO LWC1069) recorder recital played by Caroline Eidsten Dahl , all modern music. The centerpiece is Thommessen's Blockbird. Petri also recorded it, but this is much more satisfying, made me find and buy the sheet music to practice. I am not as good as Dahl.

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 by: mINE109 - Thu, 2 Nov 2023 18:17 UTC

On 11/2/23 12:47 PM, Paul Goodman wrote:
> I just started listening to Civilization Phase 3 by Frank Zappa. There is
> some amazing stuff here and I can’t help but think that he was influenced
> somewhat by Harry Partch and Edgard Varese although I haven’t seen anything
> in writing to support that. Just a feeling.

There's this:

https://wiki.killuglyradio.com/wiki/Frank_Zappa_on_Edgar_Varèse

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 by: Paul Goodman - Thu, 2 Nov 2023 18:32 UTC

mINE109 <pianoforte109@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 11/2/23 12:47 PM, Paul Goodman wrote:
>> I just started listening to Civilization Phase 3 by Frank Zappa. There is
>> some amazing stuff here and I can’t help but think that he was influenced
>> somewhat by Harry Partch and Edgard Varese although I haven’t seen anything
>> in writing to support that. Just a feeling.
>
> There's this:
>
> https://wiki.killuglyradio.com/wiki/Frank_Zappa_on_Edgar_Varèse
>
>

Thank you.


Paul Goodman

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Shcherbachov - Nonet (1919); no idea who the performers are unfortunately:

Part 1/2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl02FP9ShBM

Part 2/2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrpKK7pD23M

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 by: Chris J. - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 11:43 UTC

On 2 Nov 2023 Gerard wrote:

> I don't know any work by Hasse, or any fine recording of his works. Do
> you have recommendations?

Hasse left a large body of work and was probably best known as a composer
of (numerous) operas. I only know some of his church music and to my
knowledge none of the recordings I've heard is still available on CD. You
can hear some of his music on KorenTube, sorry, I mean YouTube.

For instance:

Mass in D minor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnryXpAmlVE

Requiem in C major:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t4GVeaJOm0

Regina Coeli, Motet in D major:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMdrE1XvC2A

Chris

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Vivica Genaux, A Tribute to Faustina Bordoni, with arias by Hasse and
Handel composed for the famed singer who became Hasse's wife.

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 by: Gerard - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 15:12 UTC

Op vrijdag 3 november 2023 om 12:43:54 UTC+1 schreef Chris J.:
> On 2 Nov 2023 Gerard wrote:
>
> > I don't know any work by Hasse, or any fine recording of his works. Do
> > you have recommendations?
> Hasse left a large body of work and was probably best known as a composer
> of (numerous) operas. I only know some of his church music and to my
> knowledge none of the recordings I've heard is still available on CD. You
> can hear some of his music on KorenTube, sorry, I mean YouTube.
>
> For instance:
>
> Mass in D minor:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnryXpAmlVE
>
> Requiem in C major:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t4GVeaJOm0
>
> Regina Coeli, Motet in D major:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMdrE1XvC2A
>
>
> Chris

Thanks!
I was hoping for some unknown (by me) music for orchestra of chamber ensembles ;-)
Alas, church music (or opera) is not my thing.

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Sergey Prokofiev (1891-1953): Cello Sonata in C-Major, op. 119 (1949)
Sol Gabetta, Cello / Polina Leschenko, Piano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWNiR1BuenY

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Moriz Rosenthal plays Liadov "Tabatière a Musique" op. 32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS4XvReKdtM

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 by: Dan Koren - Sat, 4 Nov 2023 18:39 UTC

On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 8:12:33 AM UTC-7, Gerard wrote:
>
> I was hoping for some unknown (by me)
> music for orchestra of chamber ensembles ;-)
> Alas, church music (or opera) is not my thing.

Good to hear you still have a slight trace of
reason left between your ears! ;-)

Cheers

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From: eisner@slac.stanford.edu (Al Eisner)
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 by: Al Eisner - Sat, 4 Nov 2023 21:44 UTC

A Dacapo CD of the New York Philharmonic under Alan Gilbert in Nielsen's
Violin, Flute and Clarinet Concertos, with Nikolaj Znaider, Robert
Langevin, and Anthony McGill, all first-rate soloists. The recorded
sound is excellent, and NYP's percussion particularly stands out.
Three fine works; my favorite at the moment is the Clarinet Concerto,
which seems the most coherent of them. I'll leave any performance
comparisons to others.
--
Al Eisner


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