I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
posts got onerous.

I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
need to use from many devices, mostly by web).

Can people see this message?

Peter Trei

pt

In article <up0m5m$2u9ik$1@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
>to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
>hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
>posts got onerous.
>
>I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
>am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
>there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
>may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
>need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>
>Can people see this message?
>
>Peter Trei
>
>pt

Yes!!
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In article <up0m5m$2u9ik$1@dont-email.me>,
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
>to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
>hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
>posts got onerous.
>
>I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
>am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
>there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
>may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
>need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>
>Can people see this message?
>
>Peter Trei

I saw this message.

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begin fnord
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:

> Can people see this message?

Well, I can.

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to be driven to a local livestock scale, where he could be weighed."
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On 1/26/2024 8:21 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
> to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
> hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
> posts got onerous.
>
> I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
> am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
> there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
> may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
> need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>
> Can people see this message?
>
> Peter Trei
>
Me three.

--
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dirty old man.

Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
>I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
>to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
>hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
>posts got onerous.
>
>I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
>am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
>there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
>may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
>need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>
>Can people see this message?

Yes. I recommend xrn if you're using linux. supports threading,
very lightweight (Xaw toolkit).

On 2024-01-26, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
> I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
> am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
> there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
> may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
> need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>
> Can people see this message?

Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail

Yup.

-dsr-

On 1/26/24 10:22, -dsr- wrote:
> On 2024-01-26, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
>> am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
>> there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
>> may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
>> need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>>
>> Can people see this message?
>
> Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
>
> Yup.
>
> -dsr-

I can see the reply from -dsr- but not the original message. I don't
know whether it is eternal-september, Thunderbird or both that is acting
up. I have to shut down Thunderbird every day in order to read in new
messages. If I don't wait for a bit before restarting up, I get no new
messages. If I wait, then I get new messages, but apparently not all of
them, like I said previously. I only see Cryptoengineer quoted in dsr's
reply. This is aggravating.
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----------------
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Senior Software Engineer - Lockheed Martin, et. al (mostly Retired)
Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)

On 1/26/2024 10:21 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
> to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
> hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
> posts got onerous.
>
> I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
> am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
> there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
> may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
> need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>
> Can people see this message?
>
> Peter Trei
>
> pt

Yes, and this thread is threaded in Thunderbird on Windows 11.

My Inbox on TB threads but I do not want it to. That is a recent change.

Lynn

On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 3:53:15 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 1/26/2024 10:21 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> > I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
> > to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
> > hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
> > posts got onerous.
> >
> > I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
> > am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
> > there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
> > may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
> > need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
> >
> > Can people see this message?
> >
> > Peter Trei
> >
> > pt
> Yes, and this thread is threaded in Thunderbird on Windows 11.
>
> My Inbox on TB threads but I do not want it to. That is a recent change.

I'm seeing it gather all the repo sets of a given thread together, but there's
no tree structure below that.

Pt

On 1/26/24 6:30 PM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 3:53:15 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 1/26/2024 10:21 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>> I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
>>> to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
>>> hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
>>> posts got onerous.
>>>
>>> I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
>>> am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
>>> there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
>>> may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
>>> need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>>>
>>> Can people see this message?
>>>
>>> Peter Trei
>>>
>>> pt
>> Yes, and this thread is threaded in Thunderbird on Windows 11.
>>
>> My Inbox on TB threads but I do not want it to. That is a recent change.
>
> I'm seeing it gather all the repo sets of a given thread together, but there's
> no tree structure below that.
>

Same here, also using Eternal September and Thunderbird. Thunderbird is
not my favorite, but it's working well enough.

Tony

On 1/26/2024 5:30 PM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 3:53:15 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 1/26/2024 10:21 AM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
>>> I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
>>> to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
>>> hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
>>> posts got onerous.
>>>
>>> I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
>>> am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
>>> there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
>>> may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
>>> need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>>>
>>> Can people see this message?
>>>
>>> Peter Trei
>>>
>>> pt
>> Yes, and this thread is threaded in Thunderbird on Windows 11.
>>
>> My Inbox on TB threads but I do not want it to. That is a recent change.
>
> I'm seeing it gather all the repo sets of a given thread together, but there's
> no tree structure below that.
>
> Pt

Try setting the pulldown menu item on: View -> Sort By -> Threaded.

Lynn

On 27/01/2024 03:21, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
> to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
> hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
> posts got onerous.
>
> I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
> am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
> there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
> may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
> need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>
> Can people see this message?
>
> Peter Trei
>
> pt
Try Betterbird - http://bettterbird.eu - it's TB with fixes.

I've been using it for a year or so, since before 115, and it's more
like old TB than TB.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

On Jan 26, 2024, Cryptoengineer wrote
(in article <up0m5m$2u9ik$1@dont-email.me>):

> I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
> to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
> hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
> posts got onerous.
>
> I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
> am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
> there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
> may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
> need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>
> Can people see this message?
>
> Peter Trei
>
> pt

Gotcha

I have two ’subscriptions’ for rec.arts.sf.* in the Hog, one on Supernews
(the one I usually use) and one on Eternal September. Thanks to the spam
deluge, Supernews takes nearly 5 minutes to load, and then another five
minutes to be usable after I clean everything up. Killfiles aren’t catching
all, or even most, of the idiocy unless I set them to be quite heavy-handed.
It’s a lot worse if I’m not home and am remoting in. ES loads in under 5
seconds.

I’ve sent a note over to Supernews. I suspect that they will just wait
until Google pulls the plug on usenet access.

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 11:21:10 -0500, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

>I'm finally switching out from Google Groups. I would have waited closer
>to the deadline, but the troll is now hitting rasfw with literally
>hundreds of new threads a day, and scrolling thru them to find real
>posts got onerous.
>
>I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
>am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
>there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
>may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
>need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>
>Can people see this message?

Yep.

It's threaded in Agent 8, but that isn't going to help you with
Thunderbird.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

In article <CESsN.67750$zqTf.38643@fx35.iad>,
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
>>Can people see this message?

Saw it.

>Yes. I recommend xrn if you're using linux. supports threading,
>very lightweight (Xaw toolkit).

I'm not familiar with xrn, but I am with trn. Also runs under
Linux. Given the name, I wouldn't be surprised if xrn was
pretty similar.

trn, at least, runs in "Linux Subsystem for Windows", which
is how I'm running it now. You can install it with a simple
"apt get". This might also be true of xrn.

A few times in the past, unsatisifed with gui forum software,
I've thought about what I would want in the ideal online forum
software. Every time, I didn't get far before I realized I was
re-inventing the most recent trn 4.0. (where "most recent" is
a couple decades old at this point.)

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mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane
KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston

On 2/3/2024 7:13 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
> In article <CESsN.67750$zqTf.38643@fx35.iad>,
> Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Can people see this message?
>
> Saw it.
>
>> Yes. I recommend xrn if you're using linux. supports threading,
>> very lightweight (Xaw toolkit).
>
> I'm not familiar with xrn, but I am with trn. Also runs under
> Linux. Given the name, I wouldn't be surprised if xrn was
> pretty similar.
>
> trn, at least, runs in "Linux Subsystem for Windows", which
> is how I'm running it now. You can install it with a simple
> "apt get". This might also be true of xrn.
>
> A few times in the past, unsatisifed with gui forum software,
> I've thought about what I would want in the ideal online forum
> software. Every time, I didn't get far before I realized I was
> re-inventing the most recent trn 4.0. (where "most recent" is
> a couple decades old at this point.)

I built trn from source under Linux a few years ago, when we
were getting excited over the use of UTF-8.

At the moment I'm using Thunderbird on Windows. There are some
niggling irritations. I wonder if they can be worked around.

1. The 'Reply' button prominently displayed at the top of a
message sends an email - it does not reply to the group.
When I do 'reply to all', it posts to the group, but also emails
the person who wrote what I'm replying to. I'd rather only
post to group.

2. While I've managed to get a threaded display, I can't sort
by 'thread most recently updated'. I can 'show only new threads',
but that doesn't show threads where I've already read some of the
replies. I'm forced to scroll down looking for thread entries
which are underlined, and have new replies.

pt

On 2/3/24 9:24 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> On 2/3/2024 7:13 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
>> In article <CESsN.67750$zqTf.38643@fx35.iad>,
>> Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>> Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> Can people see this message?
>>
>> Saw it.
>>
>>> Yes.  I recommend xrn if you're using linux.  supports threading,
>>> very lightweight (Xaw toolkit).
>>
>> I'm not familiar with xrn, but I am with trn.  Also runs under
>> Linux.  Given the name, I wouldn't be surprised if xrn was
>> pretty similar.
>>
>> trn, at least, runs in "Linux Subsystem for Windows", which
>> is how I'm running it now. You can install it with a simple
>> "apt get". This might also be true of xrn.
>>
>> A few times in the past, unsatisifed with gui forum software,
>> I've thought about what I would want in the ideal online forum
>> software. Every time, I didn't get far before I realized I was
>> re-inventing the most recent trn 4.0.  (where "most recent" is
>> a couple decades old at this point.)
>
> I built trn from source under Linux a few years ago, when we
> were getting excited over the use of UTF-8.
>
> At the moment I'm using Thunderbird on Windows. There are some
> niggling irritations. I wonder if they can be worked around.
>
> 1. The 'Reply' button prominently displayed at the top of a
> message sends an email - it does not reply to the group.
> When I do 'reply to all', it posts to the group, but also emails
> the person who wrote what I'm replying to. I'd rather only
> post to group.
>

Is there a plain "Followup" option? On my end, that posts to the group
without generating emails, but I am on a mac.

> 2. While I've managed to get a threaded display, I can't sort
> by 'thread most recently updated'. I can 'show only new threads',
> but that doesn't show threads where I've already read  some of the
> replies. I'm forced to scroll down looking for thread entries
> which are underlined, and have new replies.
>

I am also in this boat, but I haven't tried too hard to get around it.
If I do get around it, I will let you know.

Tony

On 2/3/2024 9:24 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> [snip]
> At the moment I'm using Thunderbird on Windows. There are some
> niggling irritations. I wonder if they can be worked around.
>
> 1. The 'Reply' button prominently displayed at the top of a
> message sends an email - it does not reply to the group.
> When I do 'reply to all', it posts to the group, but also emails
> the person who wrote what I'm replying to. I'd rather only
> post to group.

I believe the button that you are looking for is "Followup".

> 2. While I've managed to get a threaded display, I can't sort
> by 'thread most recently updated'. I can 'show only new threads',
> but that doesn't show threads where I've already read  some of the
> replies. I'm forced to scroll down looking for thread entries
> which are underlined, and have new replies.

I find that Thunderbird's unthreaded display works well for low-volume
newsgroups like rec.art.s.sf.written, especially once you set up filters
to set off-topic threads and the like to "auto-read".

On rare occasion Thunderbird gets confused and refuses to recognize the
existence of certain posts, but a restart typically fixes it in a matter
of seconds.

On 04/02/2024 13:24, Cryptoengineer wrote:
> On 2/3/2024 7:13 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
>> In article <CESsN.67750$zqTf.38643@fx35.iad>,
>> Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>> Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> Can people see this message?
>>
>> Saw it.
>>
>>> Yes.  I recommend xrn if you're using linux.  supports threading,
>>> very lightweight (Xaw toolkit).
>>
>> I'm not familiar with xrn, but I am with trn.  Also runs under
>> Linux.  Given the name, I wouldn't be surprised if xrn was
>> pretty similar.
>>
>> trn, at least, runs in "Linux Subsystem for Windows", which
>> is how I'm running it now. You can install it with a simple
>> "apt get". This might also be true of xrn.
>>
>> A few times in the past, unsatisifed with gui forum software,
>> I've thought about what I would want in the ideal online forum
>> software. Every time, I didn't get far before I realized I was
>> re-inventing the most recent trn 4.0.  (where "most recent" is
>> a couple decades old at this point.)
>
> I built trn from source under Linux a few years ago, when we
> were getting excited over the use of UTF-8.
>
> At the moment I'm using Thunderbird on Windows. There are some
> niggling irritations. I wonder if they can be worked around.
>
> 1. The 'Reply' button prominently displayed at the top of a
> message sends an email - it does not reply to the group.
> When I do 'reply to all', it posts to the group, but also emails
> the person who wrote what I'm replying to. I'd rather only
> post to group.
>
I turned off the Header Toolbar for just this reason (Right-click on the
message header and select "Hide Header Toolbar"), and use "Reply" at the
top of the Window, which does the right thing.

> 2. While I've managed to get a threaded display, I can't sort
> by 'thread most recently updated'. I can 'show only new threads',
> but that doesn't show threads where I've already read  some of the
> replies. I'm forced to scroll down looking for thread entries
> which are underlined, and have new replies.
>
Switching to Betterbird <http://betterbird.eu> gets rid of a lot of TB's
vexing non-features, and fast-tracks some bug-fixes, including a lot of
threading bugs.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

On 4/02/24 15:30, Tony Nance wrote:
> On 2/3/24 9:24 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:

snip

>> At the moment I'm using Thunderbird on Windows. There are some
>> niggling irritations. I wonder if they can be worked around.
>>
>> 1. The 'Reply' button prominently displayed at the top of a
>> message sends an email - it does not reply to the group.
>> When I do 'reply to all', it posts to the group, but also emails
>> the person who wrote what I'm replying to. I'd rather only
>> post to group.
>>
>
> Is there a plain "Followup" option? On my end, that posts to the group
> without generating emails, but I am on a mac.

There is a plain "Followup" under Linux.

>> 2. While I've managed to get a threaded display, I can't sort
>> by 'thread most recently updated'. I can 'show only new threads',
>> but that doesn't show threads where I've already read  some of the
>> replies. I'm forced to scroll down looking for thread entries
>> which are underlined, and have new replies.
>>
>
> I am also in this boat, but I haven't tried too hard to get around it.
> If I do get around it, I will let you know.
>

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Date Ascending Threaded.

On 1/26/24 11:40, Dave wrote:
> On 1/26/24 10:22, -dsr- wrote:
>> On 2024-01-26, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
>>> am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
>>> there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
>>> may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
>>> need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>>>
>>> Can people see this message?
>>
>> Path:
>> uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
>>
>> Yup.
>>
>> -dsr-
>
>
> I can see the reply from -dsr- but not the original message. I don't
> know whether it is eternal-september, Thunderbird or both that is acting
> up. I have to shut down Thunderbird every day in order to read in new
> messages. If I don't wait for a bit before restarting up, I get no new
> messages. If I wait, then I get new messages, but apparently not all of
> them, like I said previously. I only see Cryptoengineer quoted in dsr's
> reply. This is aggravating.

Thunderbird is being difficult. This is to see if a new message shows
up, or not.

--
----------------
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Senior Software Engineer - Lockheed Martin, et. al (mostly Retired)
Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)

On 2/4/2024 2:11 PM, BCFD 36 wrote:
>
> Thunderbird is being difficult. This is to see if a new message shows
> up, or not.
>
I see it.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

On 2/4/2024 5:11 PM, BCFD 36 wrote:
> On 1/26/24 11:40, Dave wrote:
>> On 1/26/24 10:22, -dsr- wrote:
>>> On 2024-01-26, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I reactivated an eternal September account I set up many years ago, and
>>>> am currently trying Thunderbird. I'm not completely happy with it - if
>>>> there's a threaded tree display I haven't found it, and I worry that it
>>>> may not play nice with my gmail account (10Gb, 53k messages, which I
>>>> need to use from many devices, mostly by web).
>>>>
>>>> Can people see this message?
>>>
>>> Path:
>>> uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
>>>
>>> Yup.
>>>
>>> -dsr-
>>
>>
>> I can see the reply from -dsr- but not the original message. I don't
>> know whether it is eternal-september, Thunderbird or both that is
>> acting up. I have to shut down Thunderbird every day in order to read
>> in new messages. If I don't wait for a bit before restarting up, I get
>> no new messages. If I wait, then I get new messages, but apparently
>> not all of them, like I said previously. I only see Cryptoengineer
>> quoted in dsr's reply. This is aggravating.
>
> Thunderbird is being difficult. This is to see if a new message shows
> up, or not.

The Thunderbird client can get out of sync with the NNTP server. It
seems to happen more frequently when you experiment with "offline" options.

When it happens, you can try to force a re-sync:

1. Find the desync'd newsgroup in the list of newsgroup names on the left.

2. Right-click the newsgroup name.

3. Select "Properties".

4. Under the "General Information" tab select "Repair Folder".

5. Specify how many headers you want to be re-downloaded.

6. Click OK.

7. The pop-up box will flash and reset the displayed values. Apparently
this can be ignored and you just have to wait for the headers to be
redownloaded. Thunderbird may not display its progress, but it
presumably "does stuff behind the scenes".

Not terribly user friendly, but it seems to work for me. Some settings
like threading/ordering are not preserved, but at least you get back in
sync.

Alternatively, you can unsubscribe from the corrupted newsgroup and
immediately re-subscribe, which will force the same redownload process
to be kicked off.

Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>1. The 'Reply' button prominently displayed at the top of a
>message sends an email - it does not reply to the group.
>When I do 'reply to all', it posts to the group, but also emails
>the person who wrote what I'm replying to. I'd rather only
>post to group.

What you want to do is post a followup, not a reply. (I don't know what
is involved in doing this with Thunderbird but that is the terminology
used in the Usenet documentation).
--scott
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