On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 07:46:34 -0700, Frank Berger wrote:

> On 8/30/2023 8:51 PM, mswd...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Mark Stenroos reports it in Steve Hoffman Forums.
>
> Couldn't find it there.

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/classical-mega-cd-box-sets.275224/page-1310#post-32761488

17 CDs on DG.

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On Sep 13, 2023 at 7:48:29 PM EDT, "Pluted Pup" <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

>>> Apple hates CDs.
>>
>> Apple was the first to delete a CD player from it's computers. You can still
>> buy one, and the system software supports it, but there's little talk about
>> it.
>
> I use external Apple optical drives all the time. I don't
> know if Apple still makes them but perhaps forbids
> them being stocked in their stores, as useful as they are.

Wow! The USB superdrive is still in the catalog! I thought that was dropped
long ago.

For the price, you're better off buying a third party Blu-Ray reader/writer,
which also does CD-rom and DVD

>
>>
>>> Now
>>> what does "buying BIS" mean in these uninformative news
>>> articles? Buying the BIS library or buying BIS?
>>
>> Apple buying BIS is like Apple buying Beats. Eventually there will be no more
>> BIS, if not already, and BIS will be part of the Apple collective.
>
> BIS is a record label, whatever Beats was it wasn't a
> record label. BIS discs exist, no matter what happens
> to BIS, but there are no Beats label recordings.
>
> A library would be foolish to throw away their BIS
> discs upon the vague news of the possibility of
> streaming the same thing at some future date.

I'm really talking about the premise of being able to buy BIS CDs. I think
that part of their business will be shut down.

>
>>
>>> Cause if
>>> Apple bought BIS that means Apple would delete the entire
>>> catalog.
>>
>> No. They're going to stream it,
>
> So they say, but who's to say what they are going to do
> with it? In the reckless consolidation trends by the
> richest corporations in the world, they may only buy
> it to bury it.

Just going on Apple's past behavior and (lack of) ownership of music content.
If you have a CD, you own it, if you just stream it, you don't.
>
> As pointed out by others, Apple Classical is limited
> to phone only, although it's my guess they'll fix
> that.

Probably.

>
>> as an inducement to get you to subscribe to
>> Apple Classical. So, if you want BIS disks, I'd buy them now. And I doubt
>> you're going to hear them on Spotify, unless they're already there.
>
> Too bad I don't like more of what is on BIS, or so
> far as I know. Maybe I'll complete my Sibelius
> Edition collection soon.

Get 'em while you still can.

-Owen
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On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 7:01:13=E2=80=AFAM UTC-7, Andrew Clarke wr=
ote:
> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:45:10=E2=80=AFPM UTC+10, Dan Koren wro=
te:=20
> > On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 5:19:53=E2=80=AFPM UTC-7, Andrew Clark=
e wrote:=20
> > >=20
> > > And only two of the American Big Five got onto the list.=20
> > > Mind you, it must be very hard for an orchestra to give=20
> > > an inspired performance when its audience consists=20
> > > almost entirely of bell tents and shopping trolleys.=20
> > Clearly the notion no French, Spanish, Scandinavian,=20
> > Russian or Japanese symphony orchestras belong=20
> > in the top 10 reveals bias and prejudice.=20
> >=20
> > dk
> If we are going to have to include such ensembles as the Burkina Faso Pro=
Musica and the Tuvalu Philharmonic to avoid accusations of prejudice, you =
are going to have to expand the list to considerably more than ten. I do th=
ink it's significant that no HIP ensemble was included, although a couple o=
f the critics proposed F-X Roth for the conductor's list.=20
>=20
> My jocular reference to bell-tents and shopping-trolleys was a bit more t=
han just facetious: American commenters in "Slipped Disc" have suggested th=
at places like Philadelphia...

(2023 Y. upload):

"Philadelphia cheesesteak shop hires armed agents to protect customers outs=
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William Walton, Violin Concerto, James Ehnes, Thomas S=C3=B8nderg=C3=A5rd, =
BBC National Orchestra of Wales, last year's Proms.=20
Delivered with magnificent sang froid by Ehnes.
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From: Notsure01 <docduc1013@aol.com>
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Subject: R.I.P. Zdenek Macal
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Macal died on Oct 25th:
https://www.jsonline.com/story/entertainment/arts/2023/10/30/zdenek-macal-obituary-milwaukee-symphony-orchestra/71378917007/

I'm somewhat familiar with his work since he conducted the New Jersey
Symphony from 1993 to 2002. He had an interesting Ma Vlast on Telarc,
and Mahler symphonies on Exon. I felt he had a talent for obtaining
interesting phrasing and balances - but was generally somewhat lacking
in intensity...

Any fans here?

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On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:14:30=E2=80=AFAM UTC+8, Todd M. McComb w=
rote:
> "What makes Byrd's music so powerful in this way, from a listening=20
> perspective? I can only speak from the inevitable subjectivity of=20
> my own lived experience, but one thing that keeps bringing me back=20
> to his music is its sense of existential reconciliation. By this=20
> I mean a voice that seems to make sense of the big questions of=20
> life while also integrating them into the earthiness of daily=20
> experience. I hear this in his unique combination of emotionally=20
> profound lyricism in his melodic lines, an infectious and dance-like=20
> rhythmic drive, a playful spirit in imitative polyphony, and the=20
> breadth of harmonic nuances made possible by his modal thinking."

I have nothing to add, but I like this passage and will think about it next=
time I decide to listen to Byrd interpretations. Is Moroney still your mos=
t highly recommended?