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* You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysOttavio Caruso
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|`* Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysOttavio Caruso
| `* Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysalan_m
|  +- Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysJim the Geordie
|  `* Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysOttavio Caruso
|   `* Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadayscharles
|    `- Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysOttavio Caruso
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  | `- Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysCustos Custodum
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   |+* Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysOttavio Caruso
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   |`* Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysRod Speed
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   +* Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysMax Demian
   |+* Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysColin Bignell
   ||`* Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysRod Speed
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   || `* Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysColin Bignell
   ||  `* Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysThe Natural Philosopher
   ||   +- Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysColin Bignell
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   `* Re: You won't see a newspaper article like this nowadaysCustos Custodum
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 by: Peeler - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:10 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:30:14 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin's latest trollshit unread>

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Tim+ about trolling Rodent Speed:
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 by: alan_m - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:35 UTC

On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>
>>>> ** >
>>>> **
>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>
>>> Let me guess?  "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling ice-cream"
>>
>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>
>
> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
> suggestion.
>

Yep, many of us Brits didn't even bother with inside toilets and
bathrooms until the mid 20th century :)

Were Roman bath-houses for the common man or mainly for the elite of
society?
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 by: Joe - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:45 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:40:41 +1100
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:12:31 +1100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 08:01:21 +0000
> > alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> On 13/03/2024 07:47, Bob Martin wrote:
> >> > On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> ** >
> >> >>> **
> >> >>>
> >> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
> >>
> >> >>> ** talians-in-bedford/
> >> >>
> >> >> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
> >> >> ice-cream"
> >> >
> >> > What did the Romans ever do for us?
> >> >
> >>
> >> I don't think the Romans were welcomed with open arms! The same
> >> applies to the Vikings and Normans.
> >>
> >> Would there still be an active resistance in the UK if Germany had
> >> won WW2 and had occupied us?
> >>
> >> Many of the conflicts taking place now, and in the fairly recent
> >> past, have roots based on the history of those countries in the
> >> past 100 years.
> >>
> >
> > It did occur to me when we joined the EEC that our new 'partners'
> > were almost all countries with which we had been at war in
> > relatively recent times...
>
> And aren't any more

And neither are the Scots or Welsh at war with the English...

--
Joe

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 by: charles - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 10:00 UTC

In article <20240313081231.51beef16@jrenewsid.jretrading.com>,
Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 08:01:21 +0000
> alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> > On 13/03/2024 07:47, Bob Martin wrote:
> > > On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> ** >
> > >>> **
> > >>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
> > >>> ** talians-in-bedford/
> > >>
> > >> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
> > >> ice-cream"
> > >
> > > What did the Romans ever do for us?
> > >
> >
> > I don't think the Romans were welcomed with open arms! The same
> > applies to the Vikings and Normans.
> >
> > Would there still be an active resistance in the UK if Germany had
> > won WW2 and had occupied us?
> >
> > Many of the conflicts taking place now, and in the fairly recent
> > past, have roots based on the history of those countries in the past
> > 100 years.
> >

> It did occur to me when we joined the EEC that our new 'partners' were
> almost all countries with which we had been at war in relatively recent
> times...

And that was part of the reasoning behind the EU. We wouldn't have these
fights.

--
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 by: alan_m - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 10:08 UTC

On 13/03/2024 10:00, charles wrote:

> And that was part of the reasoning behind the EU. We wouldn't have these
> fights.

Wasn't the League of Nations and United Nations meant to fulfil that
role. I'm sure that the EU will work just as well in times of real crisis :)

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 by: Colin Bignell - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 10:09 UTC

On 13/03/2024 09:35, alan_m wrote:
> On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ** >
>>>>> **
>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>
>>>> Let me guess?  "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling ice-cream"
>>>
>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>
>>
>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>> suggestion.
>>
>
>
> Yep, many of us Brits didn't even bother with inside toilets and
> bathrooms until the mid 20th century :)
>
> Were Roman bath-houses for the common man or mainly for the elite of
> society?

The baths were open to all walks of society, but some parts of the
bath-house, such as the library that some had, may have been reserved
for the elite.

--
Colin Bignell

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 10:13 UTC

On 13/03/2024 10:00, charles wrote:
> In article <20240313081231.51beef16@jrenewsid.jretrading.com>,
> Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 08:01:21 +0000
>> alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> On 13/03/2024 07:47, Bob Martin wrote:
>>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ** >
>>>>>> **
>>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
>>>>> ice-cream"
>>>>
>>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think the Romans were welcomed with open arms! The same
>>> applies to the Vikings and Normans.
>>>
>>> Would there still be an active resistance in the UK if Germany had
>>> won WW2 and had occupied us?
>>>
>>> Many of the conflicts taking place now, and in the fairly recent
>>> past, have roots based on the history of those countries in the past
>>> 100 years.
>>>
>
>> It did occur to me when we joined the EEC that our new 'partners' were
>> almost all countries with which we had been at war in relatively recent
>> times...
>
> And that was part of the reasoning behind the EU. We wouldn't have these
> fights.
>
The theory was that we would all be identically enslaved...

--
Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich
people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason
they are poor.

Peter Thompson

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 by: Max Demian - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 10:21 UTC

On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:

>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>
>>> Let me guess?  "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling ice-cream"
>>
>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>
>
> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
> suggestion.

Why didn't the Romans use soap? The Celts had it.

--
Max Demian

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 by: Ian Jackson - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 10:53 UTC

In message <l5dc83Fj40aU1@mid.individual.net>, alan_m
<junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
>On 13/03/2024 10:00, charles wrote:
>
>> And that was part of the reasoning behind the EU. We wouldn't have these
>> fights.
>
>Wasn't the League of Nations and United Nations meant to fulfil that
>role. I'm sure that the EU will work just as well in times of real
>crisis :)
But neither the LoN nor the UN had/have any primary financial or
commercial interests in preserving the peace.
--
Ian
Aims and ambitions are neither attainments nor achievements

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 by: Colin Bignell - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 11:04 UTC

On 13/03/2024 10:21, Max Demian wrote:
> On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>
>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>
>>>> Let me guess?  "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling ice-cream"
>>>
>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>
>>
>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>> suggestion.
>
> Why didn't the Romans use soap? The Celts had it.
>

The Romans would have known of soap from the Greeks, but it was a very
expensive luxury item and oil was a lot cheaper.

--
Colin Bignell

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On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:09:48 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
<ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Am 13/03/2024 um 08:01 schrieb mm0fmf:
>> On 13/03/2024 07:47, Bob Martin wrote:
>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ** >
>>>>> **
>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>
>>>> Let me guess?  "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling ice-cream"
>>>
>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>
>> You're right. We shouldn't be apologising for the British slave trade
>> till the Italians (as Romans) apologise for what they did all those
>> years ago.
>>
>> Never mind the Normans.....
>
>You savages north of the border never had the privilege of being
>civilized by the Roman.

"They create a wasteland and call it peace"

Pax Romana / Russki Mir

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 by: Joe - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 11:33 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 24 10:00:03 UTC
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

> In article <20240313081231.51beef16@jrenewsid.jretrading.com>,
> Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 08:01:21 +0000
> > alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On 13/03/2024 07:47, Bob Martin wrote:
> > > > On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> ** >
> > > >>> **
> > > >>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
> > > >>> ** talians-in-bedford/
> > > >>
> > > >> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
> > > >> ice-cream"
> > > >
> > > > What did the Romans ever do for us?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I don't think the Romans were welcomed with open arms! The same
> > > applies to the Vikings and Normans.
> > >
> > > Would there still be an active resistance in the UK if Germany had
> > > won WW2 and had occupied us?
> > >
> > > Many of the conflicts taking place now, and in the fairly recent
> > > past, have roots based on the history of those countries in the
> > > past 100 years.
> > >
>
> > It did occur to me when we joined the EEC that our new 'partners'
> > were almost all countries with which we had been at war in
> > relatively recent times...
>
> And that was part of the reasoning behind the EU. We wouldn't have
> these fights.
>

I think you mean 'wishful thinking' rather than reasoning. I believe
Jeux Sans Frontieres worked better.

--
Joe

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 by: Tim Streater - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 12:02 UTC

On 13 Mar 2024 at 10:08:03 GMT, "alan_m" <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On 13/03/2024 10:00, charles wrote:
>
>> And that was part of the reasoning behind the EU. We wouldn't have these
>> fights.
>
> Wasn't the League of Nations and United Nations meant to fulfil that
> role. I'm sure that the EU will work just as well in times of real crisis :)

And none of those have succeeded, because, as I keep pointing out, it only
takes one to make war. As we observe today.

--
First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your oppressors. - George Orwell

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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:20 UTC

Am 13/03/2024 um 09:35 schrieb alan_m:
> On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ** >
>>>>> **
>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>
>>>> Let me guess?  "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling ice-cream"
>>>
>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>
>>
>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>> suggestion.
>>
>
>
> Yep, many of us Brits didn't even bother with inside toilets and
> bathrooms until the mid 20th century :)
>
> Were Roman bath-houses for the common man or mainly for the elite of
> society?

Defo the elites only, that is, anybody who was a "Civis Romanus". And
don't forget brothels. Pompei was an open-air brothel for mercenary
soldiers.

--
Ottavio Caruso

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 by: Custos Custodum - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:03 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 09:08:19 +0000, Ottavio Caruso
<ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>
>>>> ** >
>>>> ** https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>
>>> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling ice-cream"
>>
>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>
>
>Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>suggestion.

We rejected the idea of communal latrines (bring your own sponge on a
stick). Except at Scout camps.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:45 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 20:35:02 +1100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ** >
>>>>> **
>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>
>>>> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
>>>> ice-cream"
>>>
>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>
>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>> suggestion.
>>
>
>
> Yep, many of us Brits didn't even bother with inside toilets and
> bathrooms until the mid 20th century :)
>
> Were Roman bath-houses for the common man or mainly for the elite of
> society?

Everyone, even the slaves
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_bathing

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:47 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 20:45:53 +1100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:40:41 +1100
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:12:31 +1100, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 08:01:21 +0000
>> > alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 13/03/2024 07:47, Bob Martin wrote:
>> >> > On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> ** >
>> >> >>> **
>> >> >>>
>> >>
>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>> >>
>> >> >>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
>> >> >> ice-cream"
>> >> >
>> >> > What did the Romans ever do for us?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I don't think the Romans were welcomed with open arms! The same
>> >> applies to the Vikings and Normans.
>> >>
>> >> Would there still be an active resistance in the UK if Germany had
>> >> won WW2 and had occupied us?
>> >>
>> >> Many of the conflicts taking place now, and in the fairly recent
>> >> past, have roots based on the history of those countries in the
>> >> past 100 years.
>> >>
>> >
>> > It did occur to me when we joined the EEC that our new 'partners'
>> > were almost all countries with which we had been at war in
>> > relatively recent times...
>>
>> And aren't any more
>
> And neither are the Scots or Welsh at war with the English...

Not so true of the Irish and Basques etc tho.

Tho even those two have come to their senses to some extent now.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:49 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:09:21 +1100, Colin Bignell
<cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:

> On 13/03/2024 09:35, alan_m wrote:
>> On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ** >
>>>>>> **
>>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
>>>>> ice-cream"
>>>>
>>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>>> suggestion.
>>>
>> Yep, many of us Brits didn't even bother with inside toilets and
>> bathrooms until the mid 20th century :)
>> Were Roman bath-houses for the common man or mainly for the elite of
>> society?
>
> The baths were open to all walks of society, but some parts of the
> bath-house, such as the library that some had, may have been reserved
> for the elite.

More likely just of no interest to the illiterate

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:54 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:21:07 +1100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

> On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>
>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>
>>>> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
>>>> ice-cream"
>>>
>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>
>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>> suggestion.
>
> Why didn't the Romans use soap?

They did
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap#Roman_Empire

> The Celts had it.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:56 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:53:26 +1100, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <l5dc83Fj40aU1@mid.individual.net>, alan_m
> <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
>> On 13/03/2024 10:00, charles wrote:
>>
>>> And that was part of the reasoning behind the EU. We wouldn't have
>>> these
>>> fights.
>>
>> Wasn't the League of Nations and United Nations meant to fulfil that
>> role. I'm sure that the EU will work just as well in times of real
>> crisis :)
> But neither the LoN nor the UN had/have any primary financial or
> commercial interests in preserving the peace.

Neither does the EU but all attempted that anyway

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:59 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:04:40 +1100, Colin Bignell
<cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:

> On 13/03/2024 10:21, Max Demian wrote:
>> On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>
>>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
>>>>> ice-cream"
>>>>
>>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>>> suggestion.
>> Why didn't the Romans use soap? The Celts had it.
>>
>
> The Romans would have known of soap from the Greeks, but it was a very
> expensive luxury item and oil was a lot cheaper.

In fact they used the soap from the Gauls once they came across it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap#Roman_Empire

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 18:04 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 23:02:57 +1100, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk>
wrote:

> On 13 Mar 2024 at 10:08:03 GMT, "alan_m" <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 13/03/2024 10:00, charles wrote:
>>
>>> And that was part of the reasoning behind the EU. We wouldn't have
>>> these
>>> fights.
>>
>> Wasn't the League of Nations and United Nations meant to fulfil that
>> role. I'm sure that the EU will work just as well in times of real
>> crisis :)
>
> And none of those have succeeded, because, as I keep pointing out, it
> only
> takes one to make war. As we observe today.

But the real difference is that that doesnt happen
in western europe or north america anymore. Its
taking longer for the rest to come to their senses.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 18:06 UTC

On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 01:20:10 +1100, Ottavio Caruso
<ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Am 13/03/2024 um 09:35 schrieb alan_m:
>> On 13/03/2024 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>> Am 13/03/2024 um 07:47 schrieb Bob Martin:
>>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 12:20:03, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ** >
>>>>>> **
>>>>>> https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/commonwealth-migration-since-1945/controversy-over-i
>>>>>> ** talians-in-bedford/
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me guess? "Coming over 'ere, making our bricks, selling
>>>>> ice-cream"
>>>>
>>>> What did the Romans ever do for us?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Teach you how to have a bath? Though the Anglo tribes rejected the
>>> suggestion.
>>>
>> Yep, many of us Brits didn't even bother with inside toilets and
>> bathrooms until the mid 20th century :)
>> Were Roman bath-houses for the common man or mainly for the elite of
>> society?

> Defo the elites only,

Bullshit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_bathing

> that is, anybody who was a "Civis Romanus". And don't forgetbrothels.
> Pompei was an open-air brothel for mercenary soldiers.

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 by: alan_m - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 18:14 UTC

On 13/03/2024 12:02, Tim Streater wrote:
> On 13 Mar 2024 at 10:08:03 GMT, "alan_m" <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 13/03/2024 10:00, charles wrote:
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>>> And that was part of the reasoning behind the EU. We wouldn't have these
>>> fights.
>>
>> Wasn't the League of Nations and United Nations meant to fulfil that
>> role. I'm sure that the EU will work just as well in times of real crisis :)
>
> And none of those have succeeded, because, as I keep pointing out, it only
> takes one to make war. As we observe today.
>

and the poor old Ostrich died for nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGxAYeeyoIc

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On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 04:47:16 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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and criminality is inherited after all?"
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