How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?

Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
invariably revert.
PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?
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On 08/04/2024 in message <5s5eSOBPI7EmFw2t@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> Tim
Lamb wrote:

>How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>
>Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
>invariably revert.
>PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?

PrtSc on its own for the whole screen, Alt + PrtSc for the active window.

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Did you know on the Canary Islands there is not one canary?
And on the Virgin Islands same thing, not one canary.

On 08/04/2024 09:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
> How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>
> Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
> invariably revert.
> PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?

Personally I use FastStone for screen capture, crop, print and so much
more. Currently using version 9.7 so not sure how much has changed in
the latest 10.4 version.
https://www.faststone.org/FSCaptureDetail.htm

In message <uv0nrt$3g1tv$1@dont-email.me>, www.GymRatZ.co.uk
<noreply@where.cron> writes
>On 08/04/2024 09:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>> Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but
>>enlargements invariably revert.
>> PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?
>
>Personally I use FastStone for screen capture, crop, print and so much
>more. Currently using version 9.7 so not sure how much has changed in
>the latest 10.4 version.
>https://www.faststone.org/FSCaptureDetail.htm

Ok. I'll have a look tonight. Ta

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Tim Lamb

In message <xn0okbr8c102r5r002@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
<jgnewsid@outlook.com> writes
>On 08/04/2024 in message <5s5eSOBPI7EmFw2t@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> Tim
>Lamb wrote:
>
>>How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>>
>>Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
>>invariably revert.
>>PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?
>
>PrtSc on its own for the whole screen, Alt + PrtSc for the active window.

Hmm. I thought I'd tried all likely alternatives. It might have been
opening in Acrobat and I don't have the paid version. I'll have another
go tonight.
>

--
Tim Lamb

On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 15:54:30 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

> In message <xn0okbr8c102r5r002@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
> <jgnewsid@outlook.com> writes
>>On 08/04/2024 in message <5s5eSOBPI7EmFw2t@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> Tim
>>Lamb wrote:
>>
>>>How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>>>
>>>Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
>>>invariably revert.
>>>PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?
>>
>>PrtSc on its own for the whole screen, Alt + PrtSc for the active
>>window.
>
> Hmm. I thought I'd tried all likely alternatives. It might have been
> opening in Acrobat and I don't have the paid version. I'll have another
> go tonight.
>>

Just use Paint.
Works well for screen shots and can change encoding, shrink, etc.

Cheers

Dave R

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On 08/04/2024 09:59, Tim Lamb wrote:

> How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
> Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
> invariably revert.

> PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?

PrintScreen will capture the current (logical) screen to the clipboard.

If you want to actually print that, you will need to past that into
something that can handle bitmap images (like Paint etc), and then print
from there.

PrtScr+ALT just captures the currently active window, rather than the
whole logical[1] screen.

[1] Logical in the sense that windows support multiple monitors if
desired, and you can have your windows desktop spread over several
physical screens. PrtSc on its own will in those cases capture more
that one physical screen's worth.

(so for example, if I use PrtSc on my machines, it grabs a 5120x1440
resolution "screen" - which is twice the width of one of my physical
screens)

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Cheers,

John.

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On 4/8/2024 4:59 AM, Tim Lamb wrote:
> How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>
> Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements invariably revert.
> PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?

Are the contents of the CD, simple files like JPG ?

Or is it encoded in some fashion, like some sort
of medical imaging CD ?

This makes a difference to your ability to get
the best possible pictures from this project.

Paul

On 08/04/2024 09:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
> How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>
> Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
> invariably revert.
> PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?

I use "Lightshot" that allows you to select an area of screen.
https://app.prntscr.com/en/index.html

It uses a single press of the PrtScr button. You can copy [CTRL_C] and
paste [CTRL-V] a screen area of your choice into an application. I often
paste into Paint from which you can save as a jpg or png file.

John Rumm wrote:

> On 08/04/2024 09:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
>
>> How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>> Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
>> invariably revert.
>
>> PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?
>
> PrintScreen will capture the current (logical) screen to the clipboard.
>
> If you want to actually print that, you will need to past that into
> something that can handle bitmap images (like Paint etc), and then print
> from there.
>
> PrtScr+ALT just captures the currently active window, rather than the
> whole logical[1] screen.
>
>
> [1] Logical in the sense that windows support multiple monitors if
> desired, and you can have your windows desktop spread over several
> physical screens. PrtSc on its own will in those cases capture more
> that one physical screen's worth.
>
>

winkey+shift+s crops wanted bit on screen and saves to clipbourd

--
> (so for example, if I use PrtSc on my machines, it grabs a 5120x1440
> resolution "screen" - which is twice the width of one of my physical
> screens)
>

On 09/04/2024 17:44, Mark wrote:
> John Rumm wrote:
>
>> On 08/04/2024 09:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>
>>> How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>>> Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
>>> invariably revert.
>>
>>> PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?
>>
>> PrintScreen will capture the current (logical) screen to the clipboard.
>>
>> If you want to actually print that, you will need to past that into
>> something that can handle bitmap images (like Paint etc), and then print
>> from there.
>>
>> PrtScr+ALT just captures the currently active window, rather than the
>> whole logical[1] screen.
>>
>>
>> [1] Logical in the sense that windows support multiple monitors if
>> desired, and you can have your windows desktop spread over several
>> physical screens. PrtSc on its own will in those cases capture more
>> that one physical screen's worth.
>>
>>
>
> winkey+shift+s crops wanted bit on screen and saves to clipbourd

Only if you have the snipping tool enabled - that might not always be
the case on Win 7

(snipping tool also has an editor that will let you save the snip to
disk without needing to past it into another app first)

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Cheers,

John.

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In message <uv5oop$ssev$2@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
<see.my.signature@nowhere.null> writes
>On 09/04/2024 17:44, Mark wrote:
>> John Rumm wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/04/2024 09:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>
>>>> How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>>>> Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
>>>> invariably revert.
>>>
>>>> PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?
>>>
>>> PrintScreen will capture the current (logical) screen to the clipboard.
>>>
>>> If you want to actually print that, you will need to past that into
>>> something that can handle bitmap images (like Paint etc), and then print
>>> from there.
>>>
>>> PrtScr+ALT just captures the currently active window, rather than the
>>> whole logical[1] screen.
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] Logical in the sense that windows support multiple monitors if
>>> desired, and you can have your windows desktop spread over several
>>> physical screens. PrtSc on its own will in those cases capture more
>>> that one physical screen's worth.
>>>
>>>
>> winkey+shift+s crops wanted bit on screen and saves to clipbourd
>
>Only if you have the snipping tool enabled - that might not always be
>the case on Win 7
>
>(snipping tool also has an editor that will let you save the snip to
>disk without needing to past it into another app first)

Not been keeping up on this. The original issue was to print off a map
section, enlarged for clarity.
The job was for a neighbour who seems happy with the lower resolution
copy.
W7 does not have *clipboard* and the keyboard with a PrSc button may not
have been supplied with the original PC (re-furb).

Thanks for all the advice but please remember I'm at the agricultural
end of computer knowledge:-)
>

--
Tim Lamb

On 10/04/2024 in message <0$stG$Gf5pFmFw+b@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> Tim
Lamb wrote:

>Not been keeping up on this. The original issue was to print off a map
>section, enlarged for clarity.
>The job was for a neighbour who seems happy with the lower resolution copy.
>W7 does not have clipboard and the keyboard with a PrSc button may not
>have been supplied with the original PC (re-furb).

Win 7 had a clipboard. As has been said pressing PrtSc or Alt+PrtSc put
the image on the clipboard from where it can be pasted into a program that
accepts graphics data.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
If you ever find something you like buy a lifetime supply because they
will stop making it

On 10/04/2024 15:12, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <uv5oop$ssev$2@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
> <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> writes
>> On 09/04/2024 17:44, Mark wrote:
>>> John Rumm wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/04/2024 09:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>>>>> Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
>>>>> invariably revert.
>>>>
>>>>> PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?
>>>>
>>>> PrintScreen will capture the current (logical) screen to the clipboard.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to actually print that, you will need to past that into
>>>> something that can handle bitmap images (like Paint etc), and then
>>>> print
>>>> from there.
>>>>
>>>> PrtScr+ALT just captures the currently active window, rather than the
>>>> whole logical[1] screen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] Logical in the sense that windows support multiple monitors if
>>>> desired, and you can have your windows desktop spread over several
>>>> physical screens. PrtSc on its own will  in those cases capture more
>>>> that one physical screen's worth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>  winkey+shift+s crops wanted bit on screen and saves to clipbourd
>>
>> Only if you have the snipping tool enabled - that might not always be
>> the case on Win 7
>>
>> (snipping tool also has an editor that will let you save the snip to
>> disk without needing to past it into another app first)
>
> Not been keeping up on this. The original issue was to print off a map
> section, enlarged for clarity.
> The job was for a neighbour who seems happy with the lower resolution copy.
> W7 does not have *clipboard* and the keyboard with a PrSc button may not
> have been supplied with the original PC (re-furb).

PrtSc to copy to clipboard is standard (has been there since at least
Win 3.1!)

(The "Snipping tool" was a later addition - possibly not in win 7)

> Thanks for all the advice but please remember I'm at the agricultural
> end of computer knowledge:-)

--
Cheers,

John.

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On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 09:59:59 +0100, Tim Lamb
<tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>
>Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
>invariably revert.
>PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?

Does W7 have a 'screen snip' facility? Oh yes, I see it does
https://tinyurl.com/yc7tdnjz
I use screen snip on Win 10 a lot, often for doing just what you want
to do, copying a section of the Tithe Map (or other OS maps). I can
save directly into the Word document that I am preparing, or to a jpeg
file and then use it as, when and where I want, sometimes using
Photoshop to enhance what can be a rather pale and flat image.

--
Chris

In message <uv6ict$13bk3$1@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
<see.my.signature@nowhere.null> writes
>On 10/04/2024 15:12, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <uv5oop$ssev$2@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
>><see.my.signature@nowhere.null> writes
>>> On 09/04/2024 17:44, Mark wrote:
>>>> John Rumm wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/04/2024 09:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>>>>>> Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
>>>>>> invariably revert.
>>>>>
>>>>>> PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?
>>>>>
>>>>> PrintScreen will capture the current (logical) screen to the clipboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to actually print that, you will need to past that into
>>>>> something that can handle bitmap images (like Paint etc), and then
>>>>>print
>>>>> from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> PrtScr+ALT just captures the currently active window, rather than the
>>>>> whole logical[1] screen.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] Logical in the sense that windows support multiple monitors if
>>>>> desired, and you can have your windows desktop spread over several
>>>>> physical screens. PrtSc on its own will  in those cases capture more
>>>>> that one physical screen's worth.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  winkey+shift+s crops wanted bit on screen and saves to clipbourd
>>>
>>> Only if you have the snipping tool enabled - that might not always
>>>be the case on Win 7
>>>
>>> (snipping tool also has an editor that will let you save the snip to
>>>disk without needing to past it into another app first)
>> Not been keeping up on this. The original issue was to print off a
>>map section, enlarged for clarity.
>> The job was for a neighbour who seems happy with the lower resolution copy.
>> W7 does not have *clipboard* and the keyboard with a PrSc button may
>>not have been supplied with the original PC (re-furb).
>
>PrtSc to copy to clipboard is standard (has been there since at least
>Win 3.1!)
>
>(The "Snipping tool" was a later addition - possibly not in win 7)
>
>> Thanks for all the advice but please remember I'm at the agricultural
>>end of computer knowledge:-)

Hmm. *search programs and files* fails to find anything called
*clipboard*
Snipping tool is found.
--
Tim Lamb

In message <xn0okeupe7592f000@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
<jgnewsid@outlook.com> writes
>On 10/04/2024 in message <0$stG$Gf5pFmFw+b@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> Tim
>Lamb wrote:
>
>>Not been keeping up on this. The original issue was to print off a map
>>section, enlarged for clarity.
>>The job was for a neighbour who seems happy with the lower resolution copy.
>>W7 does not have clipboard and the keyboard with a PrSc button may not
>>have been supplied with the original PC (re-furb).
>
>
>Win 7 had a clipboard. As has been said pressing PrtSc or Alt+PrtSc put
>the image on the clipboard from where it can be pasted into a program
>that accepts graphics data.

Um. Not found on this one. W7 32 bit pro
>

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Tim Lamb

In message <ksrd1jp6iqr06oi547bqvg45anbav0vsgj@4ax.com>, Chris Hogg
<me@privacy.net> writes
>On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 09:59:59 +0100, Tim Lamb
><tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>>
>>Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
>>invariably revert.
>>PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?
>
>Does W7 have a 'screen snip' facility? Oh yes, I see it does
>https://tinyurl.com/yc7tdnjz
>I use screen snip on Win 10 a lot, often for doing just what you want
>to do, copying a section of the Tithe Map (or other OS maps). I can
>save directly into the Word document that I am preparing, or to a jpeg
>file and then use it as, when and where I want, sometimes using
>Photoshop to enhance what can be a rather pale and flat image.

Yes! Just found:-)

Despite all the vaccinations and pretty much being a recluse, this
morning I tested positive for Covid!
>

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Tim Lamb

On 11/04/2024 in message <DfZgeeJI26FmFwrl@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> Tim
Lamb wrote:

>In message <xn0okeupe7592f000@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
><jgnewsid@outlook.com> writes
>>On 10/04/2024 in message <0$stG$Gf5pFmFw+b@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> Tim
>>Lamb wrote:
>>
>>>Not been keeping up on this. The original issue was to print off a map
>>>section, enlarged for clarity.
>>>The job was for a neighbour who seems happy with the lower resolution
>>>copy.
>>>W7 does not have clipboard and the keyboard with a PrSc button may not
>>>have been supplied with the original PC (re-furb).
>>
>>
>>Win 7 had a clipboard. As has been said pressing PrtSc or Alt+PrtSc put
>>the image on the clipboard from where it can be pasted into a program that
>>accepts graphics data.
>
>Um. Not found on this one. W7 32 bit pro
>>

It's easy enough to test. Open Paint then come back to this post, press
Alt+PrtsSc, go back to Paint and press Ctrl + v.

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All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.

On 11/04/2024 10:35, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <uv6ict$13bk3$1@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
> <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> writes
>> On 10/04/2024 15:12, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <uv5oop$ssev$2@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
>>> <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> writes
>>>> On 09/04/2024 17:44, Mark wrote:
>>>>> John Rumm wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/04/2024 09:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>>>>>>> Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but
>>>>>>> enlargements
>>>>>>> invariably revert.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PrintScreen will capture the current (logical) screen to the
>>>>>> clipboard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to actually print that, you will need to past that into
>>>>>> something that can handle bitmap images (like Paint etc), and then
>>>>>> print
>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PrtScr+ALT just captures the currently active window, rather than the
>>>>>> whole logical[1] screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] Logical in the sense that windows support multiple monitors if
>>>>>> desired, and you can have your windows desktop spread over several
>>>>>> physical screens. PrtSc on its own will  in those cases capture more
>>>>>> that one physical screen's worth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>  winkey+shift+s crops wanted bit on screen and saves to clipbourd
>>>>
>>>> Only if you have the snipping tool enabled - that might not always
>>>> be  the case on Win 7
>>>>
>>>> (snipping tool also has an editor that will let you save the snip to
>>>> disk without needing to past it into another app first)
>>>  Not been keeping up on this. The original issue was to print off a
>>> map  section, enlarged for clarity.
>>> The job was for a neighbour who seems happy with the lower resolution
>>> copy.
>>> W7 does not have *clipboard* and the keyboard with a PrSc button may
>>> not  have been supplied with the original PC (re-furb).
>>
>> PrtSc to copy to clipboard is standard (has been there since at least
>> Win 3.1!)
>>
>> (The "Snipping tool" was a later addition - possibly not in win 7)
>>
>>> Thanks for all the advice but please remember I'm at the agricultural
>>> end of computer knowledge:-)
>
> Hmm. *search programs and files* fails to find anything called *clipboard*
> Snipping tool is found.

Clipboard is not a "program" as such - but the name for the shared
"cut'n'paste" buffer that is a part of windows.

Hence you can copy or cut information in a program, and paste it
elsewhere. This works within one program - say moving a section of text
in a word processor, but also works between unrelated bits of software -
say pasting text from your word processor into notepad, or a form on a
web page.

It also works with graphic data. So open a program that can handle
pictures and create a new empty document if necessary. Press PrtScr.
That will capture a snapshot of the screen and hold it in the windows
clipboard. Now select "paste" in the program, and you should be rewarded
with a picture of your desktop pasted into the doc.

So for example, if I press PrnScr + ALT while this windows is active,
and then open Paint, and do paste, I get this :

https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:DemoClipScreenshot.png

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On 4/11/2024 5:29 AM, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <xn0okeupe7592f000@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> writes
>> On 10/04/2024 in message <0$stG$Gf5pFmFw+b@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> Tim Lamb wrote:
>>
>>> Not been keeping up on this. The original issue was to print off a map section, enlarged for clarity.
>>> The job was for a neighbour who seems happy with the lower resolution copy.
>>> W7 does not have clipboard and the keyboard with a PrSc button may not have been supplied with the original PC (re-furb).
>>
>>
>> Win 7 had a clipboard. As has been said pressing PrtSc or Alt+PrtSc put the image on the clipboard from where it can be pasted into a program that accepts graphics data.
>
> Um. Not found on this one. W7 32 bit pro
>>
>

OK, I see the problem.

I wasn't aware of this, and thought all Clipboard Viewers were third party.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/where-is-the-clipboard-on-windows-7/3bf718eb-5c47-e011-90b6-1cc1de79d2e2

"Unlike XP, the clipboard cannot be viewed in Windows 7. <cough>

You need a copy of clipbrd.exe from an XP computer. It is located
in C:\WINDOWS\system32. Copy it into the same folder in Windows 7
and to run it, click the Windows Orb (Start), type clipbrd and
press Enter."

In normal parlance, the clipboard is a software structure, an
"intermediary between programs". You don't need to view it to use it.
It uses ctrl-C to copy and ctrl-V to paste into the second program.

On Windows, the clipboard can contain multiple instances, and when
you paste to the destination program, the destination may only choose
to accept one of the types as the chosen type. This occasionally
causes problems, if the way a paste is handled is not correct.
Sometimes you use three programs in sequence p1 --> p2 --> p3,
where the p2 program changes from one representation to the
desired representation when you Copy-Pasta.

In this made-up example, I am trying to get across the notion of
multiple representations. In the real world, it doesn't do this,
but I needed to at least show that ctrl-C can store three representations
in one go, if the Program1 chooses to offer such a capability.

__ clipboard
/ JPG "Paste"
Program1 _/ PNG ------------------ Graphics "program2" that "likes" PNG particularly
TIF

Clipbrd.exe then, is something to show the contents in the middle column.

There should also be third-party clipboard viewers.

I could try a Google search such as

alternativeto Clipbrd.exe

This is the canonical reference, but other Google entries
may be more precise than this scattershot article (too much Mac...)
I didn't ask for Windows 10 either.

https://alternativeto.net/software/windows-10-clipboard/

You can see that Windows 10 programs go too far, and
I would not touch this with a barge pole. We don't want
to share our clipboard with Balmer, the bloody thing can
stay on the computer thanks.

https://alternativeto.net/software/windows-10-clipboard/about/

So now at least, I understand what you're looking for.
I just paste into GIMP, and carry on with my day.

For example, say I do PrtScn (which I do on occasion). If
I open GIMP paint program, I know my screen happens to be
1440x900. I do a New File, and tell it the resolution of my
new file is 1440x900. When I do ctrl-V in there, the screenshot
fits precisely within the painting window boundaries.

GIMP also happens to have its own Screenshot tool.
File : Create : Screenshot. It uses a helper application
for the actual screenshot.

If you use the MS Paint and do ctrl-V in there, then the
copied image should at least partially appear, if not fully
appear. If the window resolution is wrong (like on my example
of 1440x900), if you know the resolution of your monitor
at the moment, that's likely to be the clipboard image size.
The destination tool then, needs a window of that size (1440x900)
to fully get the effect of the paste.

*******

This is what I use for simple image work. This older version
does not have quite as much confusion over "Export" versus "Save"
that the newer versions do. The newest version, the decoration
of the screen is "steam punk" and over the top. I don't really
want to use a program of this vintage, but I don't have much
say in the matter.

https://download.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.6/windows/

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I do a File:New, set the image size to 1440x900 (the size of my screen),
then when I do a ctrl-V and paste into the blank window, my screenshot
from the PrtScn button appears.

Paul

On 4/11/2024 6:35 AM, John Rumm wrote:

>
> Clipboard is not a "program" as such - but the name for the shared "cut'n'paste" buffer that is a part of windows.
>

Unfortunately (I didn't know this), Tim is right.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/where-is-the-clipboard-on-windows-7/3bf718eb-5c47-e011-90b6-1cc1de79d2e2

"Unlike XP, the clipboard cannot be viewed in Windows 7. <cough>

You need a copy of clipbrd.exe from an XP computer. It is located
in C:\WINDOWS\system32. Copy it into the same folder in Windows 7
and to run it, click the Windows Orb (Start), type clipbrd and
press Enter."

The confusion comes from Tim seeing this in WinXP.
And thinking that clipbrd.exe from WinXP is essential.

Clipbrd.exe is not necessary for day to day computer
usage on any Windows OS. Just PrtScn, then ctrl-V to paste
into the image editing program of choice.

ctrl-C on Program1 ctrl-V on Program2 # Copy and paste an item

PrtScn (screenshot) ctrl-V on Program2 # Put the clipboard image, into the image editor Program2
# PrtScn has loaded the clipboard for us

On some OSes, pressing PrtScn triggers the execution
of a screenshot or Snipping type tool, and so rather
than the OS having a built-in behavior for loading
the clipboard, instead it kicks off the execution
of a "helper" for the job, complete with auto-saving
the resulting file in Pictures.

Generally, screenshot tools don't handle file naming
all that well, and much time is lost offroad, dealing
with that aspect. All my screenshots are "tagged" with
keywords for later access with a find-type command.

Paul

On 4/11/2024 5:40 AM, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <ksrd1jp6iqr06oi547bqvg45anbav0vsgj@4ax.com>, Chris Hogg <me@privacy.net> writes
>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2024 09:59:59 +0100, Tim Lamb
>> <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>>>
>>> Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but enlargements
>>> invariably revert.
>>> PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?
>>
>> Does W7 have a 'screen snip' facility? Oh yes, I see it does
>> https://tinyurl.com/yc7tdnjz
>> I use screen snip on Win 10 a lot, often for doing just what you want
>> to do, copying a section of the Tithe Map (or other OS maps). I can
>> save directly into the Word document that I am preparing, or to a jpeg
>> file and then use it as, when and where I want, sometimes using
>> Photoshop to enhance what can be a rather pale and flat image.
>
> Yes! Just found:-)
>
> Despite all the vaccinations and pretty much being a recluse, this morning I tested positive for Covid!

Just out of curiosity, what sub-type ?

Wondering what reagent they're using now and what it senses.

When they were giving away detection kits six months
ago, the "guy" didn't even know what the detection kits
detected. It should say, somewhere, what it is armed to detect.
With constant mutation, there's no guarantee a test kit
can detect everything.

Despite all the vaccinations, your protection wanes with time.
There is a long-term part of your immune system, which this
particular vaccine does not train. COVID is not a human disease.
Our immune system (with the exception of some "special" humans)
is not a good match for the disease. There are a few humans,
who unlike yourself, have absolutely no worries in this regard.
They could not catch SARS, MERS, or COVID.

Neither is the H5N1, which should strike... any time now.
It has recently hopped species, and will be our next candidate.
(AKA the old bird flu.) Normally it does bird to bird, and
we kill the bird flocks. But this time it did bird to animal.
And then animal to human, is getting... kinda close. It's
this kind of shit, is why poultry farms are run like
"biohazard sites", where you dip your Wellies in bleach.

Paul

In message <uv8eck$1kr6i$1@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
<see.my.signature@nowhere.null> writes
>On 11/04/2024 10:35, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <uv6ict$13bk3$1@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
>><see.my.signature@nowhere.null> writes
>>> On 10/04/2024 15:12, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>> In message <uv5oop$ssev$2@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
>>>><see.my.signature@nowhere.null> writes
>>>>> On 09/04/2024 17:44, Mark wrote:
>>>>>> John Rumm wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 08/04/2024 09:59, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do I print a screen showing detail from a CD?
>>>>>>>> Herts. CC Tithe map. Original display size prints ok but
>>>>>>>>enlargements
>>>>>>>> invariably revert.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PrSc? Does that need Alt key as well? What then?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PrintScreen will capture the current (logical) screen to the
>>>>>>>clipboard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want to actually print that, you will need to past that into
>>>>>>> something that can handle bitmap images (like Paint etc), and
>>>>>>>then print
>>>>>>> from there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PrtScr+ALT just captures the currently active window, rather than the
>>>>>>> whole logical[1] screen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] Logical in the sense that windows support multiple monitors if
>>>>>>> desired, and you can have your windows desktop spread over several
>>>>>>> physical screens. PrtSc on its own will  in those cases capture more
>>>>>>> that one physical screen's worth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  winkey+shift+s crops wanted bit on screen and saves to clipbourd
>>>>>
>>>>> Only if you have the snipping tool enabled - that might not always
>>>>>be  the case on Win 7
>>>>>
>>>>> (snipping tool also has an editor that will let you save the snip
>>>>>to disk without needing to past it into another app first)
>>>>  Not been keeping up on this. The original issue was to print off a
>>>>map  section, enlarged for clarity.
>>>> The job was for a neighbour who seems happy with the lower
>>>>resolution copy.
>>>> W7 does not have *clipboard* and the keyboard with a PrSc button
>>>>may not  have been supplied with the original PC (re-furb).
>>>
>>> PrtSc to copy to clipboard is standard (has been there since at
>>>least Win 3.1!)
>>>
>>> (The "Snipping tool" was a later addition - possibly not in win 7)
>>>
>>>> Thanks for all the advice but please remember I'm at the
>>>>agricultural end of computer knowledge:-)
>> Hmm. *search programs and files* fails to find anything called
>>*clipboard*
>> Snipping tool is found.
>
>
>Clipboard is not a "program" as such - but the name for the shared
>"cut'n'paste" buffer that is a part of windows.
>
>Hence you can copy or cut information in a program, and paste it
>elsewhere. This works within one program - say moving a section of text
>in a word processor, but also works between unrelated bits of software
>- say pasting text from your word processor into notepad, or a form on
>a web page.
>
>It also works with graphic data. So open a program that can handle
>pictures and create a new empty document if necessary. Press PrtScr.
>That will capture a snapshot of the screen and hold it in the windows
>clipboard. Now select "paste" in the program, and you should be
>rewarded with a picture of your desktop pasted into the doc.
>
>So for example, if I press PrnScr + ALT while this windows is active,
>and then open Paint, and do paste, I get this :
>
>https://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/File:DemoClipScreenshot.png

Ok. Thanks John and Paul for the detailed explanations.

My technical education stopped in 1983 when I took up farming full time.
I guess anyone shunting photographs into word files would have learned
these processes as technology progressed
>
>

--
Tim Lamb

In message <xn0okfzrr19p3ej001@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
<jgnewsid@outlook.com> writes
>On 11/04/2024 in message <DfZgeeJI26FmFwrl@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> Tim
>Lamb wrote:
>
>>In message <xn0okeupe7592f000@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
>><jgnewsid@outlook.com> writes
>>>On 10/04/2024 in message <0$stG$Gf5pFmFw+b@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>
>>>Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>
>>>>Not been keeping up on this. The original issue was to print off a
>>>>map section, enlarged for clarity.
>>>>The job was for a neighbour who seems happy with the lower
>>>>resolution copy.
>>>>W7 does not have clipboard and the keyboard with a PrSc button may
>>>>not have been supplied with the original PC (re-furb).
>>>
>>>
>>>Win 7 had a clipboard. As has been said pressing PrtSc or Alt+PrtSc
>>>put the image on the clipboard from where it can be pasted into a
>>>program that accepts graphics data.
>>
>>Um. Not found on this one. W7 32 bit pro
>>>
>
>It's easy enough to test. Open Paint then come back to this post, press
>Alt+PrtsSc, go back to Paint and press Ctrl + v.

Ok. Please tell me why Microsoft would assume this tortuous process is
understood and used by their average customer?
>

--
Tim Lamb