Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:
> If set at a higher
> temperature, there's no safe way of blending it with cold.

From what I can see of it on the website, there’s nothing stopping you from
turning on the boiling water tap and the cold tap at the same time.

Now because lack of mixing this might not qualify as “safe for imbeciles”
but I imagine that with care it’s possible. I’ll let you know when I have
it fitted. ;-)

Tim

--
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On 18/04/2024 21:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 18/04/2024 11:34, Colin Bignell wrote:
>> On 18/04/2024 10:08, charles wrote:
>>> In article <-9qcnX3msaF6Tb37nZ2dnZeNn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>, Colin
>>> Bignell
>>> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 18/04/2024 08:30, charles wrote:
>>>>> In article <l8b1d2Fs5f6U2@mid.individual.net>, Roger Mills
>>>>>      <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/04/2024 19:46, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the link. What I kinda suspected regarding costs but Ive
>>>>>>> been swayed by the convenience factor (and clearing a bit of
>>>>>>> valuable
>>>>>>> counter space).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ive gone for the fohen tap.  If it turns out to be crap Ill let
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> all know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Problem is that it is NOT equivalent to a Quooker, and it WON'T do
>>>>>> what you're setting out to achieve.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It will be ok for making tea and coffee, but little use for anything
>>>>>> else. The blurb says that the hot and cold taps use your *existing*
>>>>>> supplies - so the hot will still be coming from a long way away.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Quooker combi, on the other hand, feeds the hot tap with water
>>>>>> from the boiling water tank mixed with cold to provide an appropriate
>>>>>> temperature. Mine has a separate boiling water tap - for which spares
>>>>>> are readily available albeit at an inflated price. Mine also has a
>>>>>> capacity of 7 litres which is much more useful for filling a large
>>>>>> washing-up bowl than the Fohen's 2.4 litre tank.
>>>>>
>>>>>> We've had the Quooker for at least 10 years and have been very
>>>>>> pleased
>>>>>> with it. It cost just under £1000 at the time, and I did a DIY
>>>>>> installation. I'm not sure of the economics - the cost of heating the
>>>>>> water with electricity rather than gas but then having to waste a lot
>>>>>> of hot metered water getting it to the tap. Either way, it's well
>>>>>> worth it for the convenience. -- Che
>>>>>
>>>>> Presumably you don't live in a hard water area.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> Unless a water softener is also fitted, probably at extra cost.
>>>
>>> You shouldn't fit a water softener in the drinking water supply.
>>>
>>
>> Only if you are on a low sodium diet or the water is exceptionally
>> hard. Otherwise, softened water is perfectly safe to drink.
>>
>>
> It tastes a bit weird. All that sodium carbonate...

All soft water tastes a bit weird to me, but I grew up in London, where
lead pipes were safe because the water was hard enough to coat the
insides of them.

--
Colin Bignell

On 19/04/2024 16:04, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 18/04/2024 21:10, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 18/04/2024 11:34, Colin Bignell wrote:
>>> On 18/04/2024 10:08, charles wrote:
>>>> In article <-9qcnX3msaF6Tb37nZ2dnZeNn_udnZ2d@giganews.com>, Colin
>>>> Bignell
>>>> <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On 18/04/2024 08:30, charles wrote:
>>>>>> In article <l8b1d2Fs5f6U2@mid.individual.net>, Roger Mills
>>>>>>      <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 17/04/2024 19:46, Tim+ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link. What I kinda suspected regarding costs but
>>>>>>>> Ive
>>>>>>>> been swayed by the convenience factor (and clearing a bit of
>>>>>>>> valuable
>>>>>>>> counter space).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ive gone for the fohen tap.  If it turns out to be crap Ill
>>>>>>>> let you
>>>>>>>> all know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Problem is that it is NOT equivalent to a Quooker, and it WON'T do
>>>>>>> what you're setting out to achieve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It will be ok for making tea and coffee, but little use for anything
>>>>>>> else. The blurb says that the hot and cold taps use your *existing*
>>>>>>> supplies - so the hot will still be coming from a long way away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Quooker combi, on the other hand, feeds the hot tap with water
>>>>>>> from the boiling water tank mixed with cold to provide an
>>>>>>> appropriate
>>>>>>> temperature. Mine has a separate boiling water tap - for which
>>>>>>> spares
>>>>>>> are readily available albeit at an inflated price. Mine also has a
>>>>>>> capacity of 7 litres which is much more useful for filling a large
>>>>>>> washing-up bowl than the Fohen's 2.4 litre tank.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We've had the Quooker for at least 10 years and have been very
>>>>>>> pleased
>>>>>>> with it. It cost just under £1000 at the time, and I did a DIY
>>>>>>> installation. I'm not sure of the economics - the cost of heating
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> water with electricity rather than gas but then having to waste a
>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>> of hot metered water getting it to the tap. Either way, it's well
>>>>>>> worth it for the convenience. -- Che
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Presumably you don't live in a hard water area.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Unless a water softener is also fitted, probably at extra cost.
>>>>
>>>> You shouldn't fit a water softener in the drinking water supply.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Only if you are on a low sodium diet or the water is exceptionally
>>> hard. Otherwise, softened water is perfectly safe to drink.
>>>
>>>
>> It tastes a bit weird. All that sodium carbonate...
>
>
> All soft water tastes a bit weird to me, but I grew up in London, where
> lead pipes were safe because the water was hard enough to coat the
> insides of them.

In soft water areas, the supplier uses phosphate dosing to cause the
pipes to be lined and keep the water isolater from the lead. I designed
some of the control panels that measure the water flow and add the
matching continuous dosing, for United Utilities, back in 2002/2003.