krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
> On 28.6.23 11:37, Chris wrote:
>> Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:13:19 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> a
>>> gribouillé dans la poussière...
>>>
>>>> I'm not listening because of the Rob story, whereas I'd listen
>>>> toEddie's schemes. I quite like regular seasonal village events. I
>>>> just wish they were better done.
>>>
>>> The Ambridge fete has always annoyed me. I'm sure our village fete
>>> committee was not unusual in planning next year's event before this year's
>>> had happened.
>>> To start planning a few weeks before the event is nonsense!
>>
>> And impossible!
>>
>> All their events ‘just happen’ with crises. I bet they were more sensible
>> pre the internet and phones
>>
>> Mrs McT
>
> I think they had invented the phone before 1951.
>

Don’t imagine the likes of the Grundies had phones, even if Squire Lawson
Hope did though.

Mrs McT

On 28/06/2023 17:02, Chris wrote:
> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>> On 28.6.23 11:37, Chris wrote:
>>> Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:13:19 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> a
>>>> gribouillé dans la poussière...
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not listening because of the Rob story, whereas I'd listen
>>>>> toEddie's schemes. I quite like regular seasonal village events. I
>>>>> just wish they were better done.
>>>>
>>>> The Ambridge fete has always annoyed me. I'm sure our village fete
>>>> committee was not unusual in planning next year's event before this year's
>>>> had happened.
>>>> To start planning a few weeks before the event is nonsense!
>>>
>>> And impossible!
>>>
>>> All their events ‘just happen’ with crises. I bet they were more sensible
>>> pre the internet and phones
>>>
>>> Mrs McT
>>
>> I think they had invented the phone before 1951.
>>
>
> Don’t imagine the likes of the Grundies had phones, even if Squire Lawson
> Hope did though.

Expensive things, phones back then.
My parents didn't have one installed until the late 1970s (maybe early
1980s?) - certainly long after all us kids had left home for good.

On 28.6.23 22:39, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 28/06/2023 17:02, Chris wrote:
>> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>> On 28.6.23 11:37, Chris wrote:
>>>> Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:13:19 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> a
>>>>> gribouillé dans la poussière...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not listening because of the Rob story, whereas I'd listen
>>>>>> toEddie's schemes. I quite like regular seasonal village events. I
>>>>>> just wish they were better done.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Ambridge fete has always annoyed me. I'm sure our village fete
>>>>> committee was not unusual in planning next year's event before this
>>>>> year's
>>>>> had happened.
>>>>> To start planning a few weeks before the event is nonsense!
>>>>
>>>> And impossible!
>>>>
>>>> All their events ‘just happen’ with crises.  I bet they were more
>>>> sensible
>>>> pre the internet and phones
>>>>
>>>> Mrs McT
>>>
>>> I think they had invented the phone before 1951.
>>>
>>
>> Don’t imagine the likes of the Grundies had phones, even if Squire Lawson
>> Hope did though.
>
> Expensive things, phones back then.
> My parents didn't have one installed until the late 1970s (maybe early
> 1980s?) - certainly long after all us kids had left home for good.
>

Living on a farm we did - we had a shared line (my parents told me) in
the house where I was born and then we moved when I was 3 I think and
that house had its own line. I had a phone in the first flat I bought
in 1978 - the landlord would not agree to me having a phone installed in
my rented flat.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

> Expensive things, phones back then.
> My parents didn't have one installed until the late 1970s (maybe early
> 1980s?) - certainly long after all us kids had left home for good.

My parents had a phone from before I was born (1950s) though many of my school friends didn't. Waiting months for a phone to be installed was the norm and then you probably got given a party line.

On 28/06/2023 10:44, Penny wrote:
> Irfanview says it can't decode that and I need a plugin 'formats.dll'. I
> can usually see your pics without one, have you got a jpg or png version?

I have installed formats.dll (thought I would have forgotten it was
called that) with at least the last 2 updates of Irfanview because it
allows me to do things which are important to me. It doesn't cause any
problems.

--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

On 28/06/2023 22:39, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> Expensive things, phones back then.
> My parents didn't have one installed until the late 1970s (maybe early
> 1980s?) - certainly long after all us kids had left home for good.

I remember my father in the late 1950s ranting about one of my school
teachers not having a telephone. Thought it was dreadful that a "middle
class person" didn't have one.
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

On 29/06/2023 02:32, MelbTony wrote:
>> Expensive things, phones back then.
>> My parents didn't have one installed until the late 1970s (maybe early
>> 1980s?) - certainly long after all us kids had left home for good.
>
> My parents had a phone from before I was born (1950s) though many of my school friends didn't. Waiting months for a phone to be installed was the norm and then you probably got given a party line.

Because one of my father's surgeries was in the house (they had another
bigger one up the road), we had a sort of tiny telephone switchboard - a
row of buttons on the handset - so that if we answered a call in the
house it could be put through to the consulting room or redirected to
the other surgery. This was in the fifties. Then the other surgery got a
dedicated line from the early sixties and we had an even more
complicated mini-switchboard to deal with that.

All of us children learnt how to answer patients' calls if neither Pa
nor Ma were in the immediate offing: take the name and address and phone
number, and general nature of the call: if it was a baby or bleeding or
unconscious then we had to find a parent immediately. One was always
nearby, of course, but if Ma was out shopping then Pa would be in his
consulting room, not to be interrupted unless an emergency.

--
Kate B

On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 09:13:38 +0100, Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk>
a gribouillé dans la poussière...

>On 28/06/2023 10:44, Penny wrote:
>> Irfanview says it can't decode that and I need a plugin 'formats.dll'. I
>> can usually see your pics without one, have you got a jpg or png version?
>
>I have installed formats.dll (thought I would have forgotten it was
>called that) with at least the last 2 updates of Irfanview because it
>allows me to do things which are important to me. It doesn't cause any
>problems.

I've never had that message before, so have not needed it. I suppose if I
add it now it will be updated when the rest of Irfanview updates.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

In message <rhkq9i9nels19ih5hdrsmejulfd7u547f9@4ax.com> at Thu, 29 Jun
2023 10:45:56, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
>On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 09:13:38 +0100, Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk>
>a gribouillé dans la poussière...
>
>>On 28/06/2023 10:44, Penny wrote:
>>> Irfanview says it can't decode that and I need a plugin 'formats.dll'. I
>>> can usually see your pics without one, have you got a jpg or png version?
>>
>>I have installed formats.dll (thought I would have forgotten it was
>>called that) with at least the last 2 updates of Irfanview because it
>>allows me to do things which are important to me. It doesn't cause any
>>problems.

I didn't know it was called that until Penny mentioned it and I looked
for it (using the excellent "Everything"); it must have been installed
when I installed plugins.
>
>I've never had that message before, so have not needed it. I suppose if I
>add it now it will be updated when the rest of Irfanview updates.

I have a feeling not: whenever I update IV (it doesn't update often
enough for it to be a chore), I manually get and install the plugins to
match. I initially did them because, like Jenny, they allowed me to do
something I wanted (possibly just access a certain filetype), and as I
say have just kept doing it every time since.

Although initially I thought of it as an image viewer (and I still
mainly use it as that: I use VLC for movies and WinAmp for audio),
IrfanView is one of my list of things to try when a file won't
open/play/whatever in one of those; it's also been my image _editor_
(manipulator) of choice for a very long time - mainly since someone
pointed out that it had a clone brush in the F12 menu (I'd previously
been keeping an old Paint Shop Pro for that). Maybe _that_ (the F12
menu) was the plugin (if it is one) that was why I now get them by
default; I hadn't even known it was there!

I continue to be pleasantly surprised by IrfanView: its author continues
to make it free for home use, and also must still do a lot of its coding
at a very low level, as it's very small (the main executable is still
only 1.9 MB! [even the installer and plugin installer are only 3.1 and
18.2 MB downloads respectively]), and - for that reason I think - it
opens _very_ quickly [instantly for practical purposes] and without any
feeling of instability. And I find space and backspace, for moving to
next and previous image respectively, very simple, though I guess some
of that is just familiarity.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Look, if it'll help you to do what I tell you, baby, imagine that I've got a
blaster ray in my hand." "Uh - you _have_ got a blaster ray in your hand." "So
you shouldn't have to tax your imagination too hard." (Link episode)

On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 1:28:19 PM UTC+1, krw wrote:
> On 28.6.23 11:37, Chris wrote:
> > Penny <sp...@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:13:19 +0100, Vicky <vicky...@gmail.com> a
> >> gribouillé dans la poussière...
> >>
> >>> I'm not listening because of the Rob story, whereas I'd listen
> >>> toEddie's schemes. I quite like regular seasonal village events. I
> >>> just wish they were better done.
> >>
> >> The Ambridge fete has always annoyed me. I'm sure our village fete
> >> committee was not unusual in planning next year's event before this year's
> >> had happened.
> >> To start planning a few weeks before the event is nonsense!
> >
> > And impossible!
> >
> > All their events ‘just happen’ with crises. I bet they were more sensible
> > pre the internet and phones
> >
> > Mrs McT
> I think they had invented the phone before 1951.

Our first phone was installed
In nineteen sixty two
(it was shiny and very new)
Between the coat rack in the hall
And the downstairs loo.

Nick
nickodell49@yahoo.ca

Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
> On 28/06/2023 17:02, Chris wrote:
>> krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>>> On 28.6.23 11:37, Chris wrote:
>>>> Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:13:19 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com> a
>>>>> gribouillé dans la poussière...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not listening because of the Rob story, whereas I'd listen
>>>>>> toEddie's schemes. I quite like regular seasonal village events. I
>>>>>> just wish they were better done.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Ambridge fete has always annoyed me. I'm sure our village fete
>>>>> committee was not unusual in planning next year's event before this year's
>>>>> had happened.
>>>>> To start planning a few weeks before the event is nonsense!
>>>>
>>>> And impossible!
>>>>
>>>> All their events ‘just happen’ with crises. I bet they were more sensible
>>>> pre the internet and phones
>>>>
>>>> Mrs McT
>>>
>>> I think they had invented the phone before 1951.
>>>
>>
>> Don’t imagine the likes of the Grundies had phones, even if Squire Lawson
>> Hope did though.
>
> Expensive things, phones back then.
> My parents didn't have one installed until the late 1970s (maybe early
> 1980s?) - certainly long after all us kids had left home for good.
>
>

We had one at home in the 1960s, I don’t remember if we had one when my mum
died in 1960, but definitely after he married stepmum in 1967. He may have
had it for his work in the Odd Fellows for some years when I wouldn’t have
noticed not being at home much. My being st boarding school might have
been a reason, not that I rang home, wouldn’t have anyway though at a
certain age some of my friends sed our school pay phones.

Mrs McT

Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On 29/06/2023 02:32, MelbTony wrote:
>>> Expensive things, phones back then.
>>> My parents didn't have one installed until the late 1970s (maybe early
>>> 1980s?) - certainly long after all us kids had left home for good.
>>
>> My parents had a phone from before I was born (1950s) though many of my
>> school friends didn't. Waiting months for a phone to be installed was
>> the norm and then you probably got given a party line.
>
> Because one of my father's surgeries was in the house (they had another
> bigger one up the road), we had a sort of tiny telephone switchboard - a
> row of buttons on the handset - so that if we answered a call in the
> house it could be put through to the consulting room or redirected to
> the other surgery. This was in the fifties. Then the other surgery got a
> dedicated line from the early sixties and we had an even more
> complicated mini-switchboard to deal with that.
>
> All of us children learnt how to answer patients' calls if neither Pa
> nor Ma were in the immediate offing: take the name and address and phone
> number, and general nature of the call: if it was a baby or bleeding or
> unconscious then we had to find a parent immediately. One was always
> nearby, of course, but if Ma was out shopping then Pa would be in his
> consulting room, not to be interrupted unless an emergency.
>
>
> --
> Kate B
>
>

Wow!

Mrs McT

In message <u7ks36$28r7a$1@dont-email.me> at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 21:12:06,
Chris <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> writes
[]
>We had one at home in the 1960s, I don’t remember if we had one when my mum
>died in 1960, but definitely after he married stepmum in 1967. He may have
>had it for his work in the Odd Fellows for some years when I wouldn’t have
>noticed not being at home much. My being st boarding school might have
>been a reason, not that I rang home, wouldn’t have anyway though at a
>certain age some of my friends sed our school pay phones.
>
>Mrs McT

Somewhat academic in our case with the folks being in Germany, but
mention of the school pay 'phones reminds me: just before STD came in
(standard code for somewhere regardless of where you were calling it
from), each exchange had a local code list for the neighbouring
exchanges. It was rumoured that, by stringing together many such codes,
you could call long distance (remember that dichotomy?) at local rates.
I never tried it: you'd have to have visited a string of 'phones to get
the string of codes, plus I presume it'd have no boosters so would be a
very noisy/low-level signal if it did work.

I remember we _did_ have a 'phone in the '60s - I even remember the
number, Eaglescliffe 2201! - but Grandma not having; she would use her
neighbour's one if needed. I think it was her brother visiting from
America that finally resulted in her getting one (as he of course
couldn't accept the idea of not having one - not that she called him
more than once or twice a year because of the cost, but he thought she
should have one). I _think_ that was the late '60s.

(Mention of the 'phone and Germany reminds me of something that's
puzzled me: they had different numbers for the emergency services: I
think they were something like 112, 113, 114. I always thought that an
excellent idea: it saves a few vital seconds "which emergency service do
you require?"; we could have 999, 998, etc. [AFAIK those aren't
allocated]. Whether there was a general one for if you needed more than
one, I can't remember.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

A professor is one who talks in someone else's sleep.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 01:57:30 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> a
gribouillé dans la poussière...

>Somewhat academic in our case with the folks being in Germany, but
>mention of the school pay 'phones reminds me: just before STD came in
>(standard code for somewhere regardless of where you were calling it
>from), each exchange had a local code list for the neighbouring
>exchanges. It was rumoured that, by stringing together many such codes,
>you could call long distance (remember that dichotomy?) at local rates.
>I never tried it: you'd have to have visited a string of 'phones to get
>the string of codes, plus I presume it'd have no boosters so would be a
>very noisy/low-level signal if it did work.

I recall some sort of strike in the early 70s whereby STD was not
functioning and, if you could figure out the number string, you could
indeed make a call over some distance. I was working for my father at the
time, sorting through the stacks of patents relevant to his business
(presumably you could subscribe to the patent office and get them by post),
and indexes of abstracts, for binding. The office where the secretary
worked was next door to the library where I was working. The phone rang in
the office and, after several minutes, I decided to answer it - though I
had no idea how to transfer a call, or even find another person in the
building. The caller was very annoyed when I told him I could not put him
through to my father because I didn't know where he was. He spent some time
telling me how long it had taken to dial all the numbers necessary to get
through, sadly, not long enough for anyone who knew what they were doing to
appear.

>I remember we _did_ have a 'phone in the '60s - I even remember the
>number, Eaglescliffe 2201!

I don't remember when we didn't have a phone (and I also remember the
four-figure number - our Isle of Wight relatives were just Sandown 69). I
do remember my mother had a 'telephone voice' for some people.

>(Mention of the 'phone and Germany reminds me of something that's
>puzzled me: they had different numbers for the emergency services: I
>think they were something like 112, 113, 114. I always thought that an
>excellent idea: it saves a few vital seconds "which emergency service do
>you require?"; we could have 999, 998, etc. [AFAIK those aren't
>allocated]. Whether there was a general one for if you needed more than
>one, I can't remember.)

I think one short number is a better idea. Even if your memory is working
well, in the heat of the moment when you need to call emergency services,
having to remember which number went where would slow the whole process
down.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 09:15:42 +0100, Jenny M Benson
<NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>On 28/06/2023 22:39, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> Expensive things, phones back then.
>> My parents didn't have one installed until the late 1970s (maybe early
>> 1980s?) - certainly long after all us kids had left home for good.
>
>I remember my father in the late 1950s ranting about one of my school
>teachers not having a telephone. Thought it was dreadful that a "middle
>class person" didn't have one.

We had a phone installed c 1956/7. We lived in a small town in Fife.
The phone did not have a dial. One lifted the phone and asked the
operator for the number required.

In 1958 we moved to Edinburgjh. The phone in the house (in the hall,
of course!) there had a dial, but the bell was separate from the
phone, and was situated in my bedroom on the wall above the door. Not
terribly convenient.

In message <pp1t9i1e6237kfa80ug8otp1r2dml37odi@4ax.com> at Fri, 30 Jun
2023 09:10:01, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
[]
>>I remember we _did_ have a 'phone in the '60s - I even remember the
>>number, Eaglescliffe 2201!
>
>I don't remember when we didn't have a phone (and I also remember the
>four-figure number - our Isle of Wight relatives were just Sandown 69). I

I remember hearing there was one exchange - on the north coast of
Scotland I think it was - that remained single digit until well into the
STD area; I think people had difficulty persuading people that they had
a single-digit number.

>do remember my mother had a 'telephone voice' for some people.

I guess we all must have a slightly different one for the 'phone, though
I'm not _aware_ of having such. I know my mother's Geordie accent got
stronger when she'd been talking to her mum! I see you said "for some
people"; that could partly because the person knows that certain people
(either through hearing problems or equipment characteristics) needed it
in order to understand - and probably one moderates/changes one's way of
speaking as one would face to face for some people. (Not necessarily
politer/posher: I can imagine there are people one has learnt need a
more earthy, or whatever, mode of speaking!)
>
>>(Mention of the 'phone and Germany reminds me of something that's
>>puzzled me: they had different numbers for the emergency services: I
>>think they were something like 112, 113, 114. I always thought that an
>>excellent idea: it saves a few vital seconds "which emergency service do
>>you require?"; we could have 999, 998, etc. [AFAIK those aren't
>>allocated]. Whether there was a general one for if you needed more than
>>one, I can't remember.)
>
>I think one short number is a better idea. Even if your memory is working
>well, in the heat of the moment when you need to call emergency services,
>having to remember which number went where would slow the whole process
>down.

The numbers were listed in any 'phone box (and possibly on private
'phones, I can't remember). But if we were to introduce it, you'd keep
999 for the general one as now, but have say 998 for fire, 997 for
police, and so on. (Or 777 or whatever was technically convenient.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Diplomacy is the art of letting someone have your way.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 01:57:30 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
<G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>I remember we _did_ have a 'phone in the '60s - I even remember the
>number, Eaglescliffe 2201!

I remember my mum's and gran's numbers, first when the first 3 letters
of the area was dialled, and later just numbers, and it's much longer
back :)

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <pp1t9i1e6237kfa80ug8otp1r2dml37odi@4ax.com> at Fri, 30 Jun
> 2023 09:10:01, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
> []
>>> I remember we _did_ have a 'phone in the '60s - I even remember the
>>> number, Eaglescliffe 2201!
>>
>> I don't remember when we didn't have a phone (and I also remember the
>> four-figure number - our Isle of Wight relatives were just Sandown 69). I
>
> I remember hearing there was one exchange - on the north coast of
> Scotland I think it was - that remained single digit until well into the
> STD area; I think people had difficulty persuading people that they had
> a single-digit number.
>
>> do remember my mother had a 'telephone voice' for some people.
>
> I guess we all must have a slightly different one for the 'phone, though
> I'm not _aware_ of having such. I know my mother's Geordie accent got
> stronger when she'd been talking to her mum! I see you said "for some
> people"; that could partly because the person knows that certain people
> (either through hearing problems or equipment characteristics) needed it
> in order to understand - and probably one moderates/changes one's way of
> speaking as one would face to face for some people. (Not necessarily
> politer/posher: I can imagine there are people one has learnt need a
> more earthy, or whatever, mode of speaking!)
>>
>>> (Mention of the 'phone and Germany reminds me of something that's
>>> puzzled me: they had different numbers for the emergency services: I
>>> think they were something like 112, 113, 114. I always thought that an
>>> excellent idea: it saves a few vital seconds "which emergency service do
>>> you require?"; we could have 999, 998, etc. [AFAIK those aren't
>>> allocated]. Whether there was a general one for if you needed more than
>>> one, I can't remember.)
>>
>> I think one short number is a better idea. Even if your memory is working
>> well, in the heat of the moment when you need to call emergency services,
>> having to remember which number went where would slow the whole process
>> down.
>
> The numbers were listed in any 'phone box (and possibly on private
> 'phones, I can't remember). But if we were to introduce it, you'd keep
> 999 for the general one as now, but have say 998 for fire, 997 for
> police, and so on. (Or 777 or whatever was technically convenient.)

And 666 if a boat had capsized. ;-)))

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 09:10:01 +0100, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
wrote:

>I recall some sort of strike in the early 70s whereby STD was not
>functioning and, if you could figure out the number string, you could
>indeed make a call over some distance. I w

Was it to do with delivery of telegrams too? I was travelling with
Capt Ex at the time (not yet Capt) and flew home alone and wanted to
say I arrived safely. Emergency telegrams were delivered, I think, so
I sent one saying 'Aunt Betty died on Weds at 7pm' meaning I got home
then. We'd arranged the code :) .

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 10:10:11 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> a
gribouillé dans la poussière...

>In message <pp1t9i1e6237kfa80ug8otp1r2dml37odi@4ax.com> at Fri, 30 Jun
>2023 09:10:01, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
>>do remember my mother had a 'telephone voice' for some people.
>
>I guess we all must have a slightly different one for the 'phone, though
>I'm not _aware_ of having such. I know my mother's Geordie accent got
>stronger when she'd been talking to her mum!

I could always tell when Ray was talking to a relative on the phone, by the
Black Country words and phrases he was using. He claimed not to be aware of
it.

>I see you said "for some
>people"; that could partly because the person knows that certain people
>(either through hearing problems or equipment characteristics) needed it
>in order to understand - and probably one moderates/changes one's way of
>speaking as one would face to face for some people. (Not necessarily
>politer/posher: I can imagine there are people one has learnt need a
>more earthy, or whatever, mode of speaking!)

Thinking about it, it was probably people she didn't know. It goes in my
head with her spelling out our surname, Hill, which I always thought was
hillarious ;)
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

On 30/06/2023 11:21, Vicky wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 01:57:30 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>> I remember we _did_ have a 'phone in the '60s - I even remember the
>> number, Eaglescliffe 2201!
>
> I remember my mum's and gran's numbers, first when the first 3 letters
> of the area was dialled, and later just numbers, and it's much longer
> back :)
>
Ours was always Birkenhead 1978 and Grannie's was Birkenhead 117 but
when Claughton came into being (new exchange or just new area "code"?)
she became Claughton 5117. My best friend's was always easy to remember
because it was Mountwood 1378.

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Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

In message <hvbt9id41cpv37h5u6renlh0vd436v9iri@4ax.com> at Fri, 30 Jun
2023 11:41:42, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
[]
>Thinking about it, it was probably people she didn't know. It goes in my
>head with her spelling out our surname, Hill, which I always thought was
>hillarious ;)

Now you mention it, I can still hear my mum spelling out ours (which
_did_ need it, as in those days - presumably when the Travels book was
still better known) - but I remember her spelling it out for Germans, i.
e. gay ee ell ell ee fow ay air.
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Flobalob" actually means "Flowerpot" in Oddle-Poddle.

In message <kg8007Fquq9U4@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 30 Jun 2023
13:26:46, Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> writes
[]
>Ours was always Birkenhead 1978 and Grannie's was Birkenhead 117 but
>when Claughton came into being (new exchange or just new area "code"?)
>she became Claughton 5117. My best friend's was always easy to
>remember because it was Mountwood 1378.
>
Why was/is that easy to remember?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Flobalob" actually means "Flowerpot" in Oddle-Poddle.

On 30/06/2023 22:03, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <kg8007Fquq9U4@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 30 Jun 2023
> 13:26:46, Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> writes
> []
>> Ours was always Birkenhead 1978 and Grannie's was Birkenhead 117 but
>> when Claughton came into being (new exchange or just new area "code"?)
>> she became Claughton 5117.  My best friend's was always easy to
>> remember because it was Mountwood 1378.
>>
> Why was/is that easy to remember?

Because I only needed to remember one number different to my own.

--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

On 30/06/2023 22:02, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> Now you mention it, I can still hear my mum spelling out ours (which
> _did_ need it, as in those days - presumably when the Travels book was
> still better known) - but I remember her spelling it out for Germans, i.
> e. gay ee ell ell ee fow ay air.

Giving her name and address was always a nightmare for my Mum - Dodd (2
D's, no s), Cedar Bank (2 words, cedAr), Poplar Road (poplAr), most
elements having to be repeated several times. She swore she'd move to
somewhere much easier ... and ended up at Haddon Heyes (2 words, haddOn,
hEyEs) Haddon Lane ...

--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK