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* Are centre stands made of unobtainium?Tim
+* Are centre stands made of unobtainium?ogden
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From: neal@champ.org.uk (Champ)
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Subject: Re: Are centre stands made of unobtainium?
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 by: Champ - Thu, 8 Jun 2023 11:44 UTC

On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 11:32:51 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

>I've seem some owner's handbooks advise riders to take a bike back to the
>dealer to have the chain adjusted...

*ding* Like my H2 SX

The thing has a (frankly pointless) single-sided swingarm, meaning
chain adjustment entails rotating a FOAD eccentric bearing in the
swingarm housing. For which one requires a FOAD C-spanner. Which is
not supplied in the toolkit. The owners handbook really does say to
take the bike to the dealer to have the chain adjusted!

I am now the proud owner of the appopriate C-spanner, and, by
coincidence, adjsuted my chain using it this morning
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

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From: nobody@home.co.uk (Tim)
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Subject: Re: Are centre stands made of unobtainium?
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 by: Tim - Thu, 8 Jun 2023 11:52 UTC

On 08/06/2023 12:44, Champ wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 11:32:51 -0000 (UTC), wessie
> <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>
>> I've seem some owner's handbooks advise riders to take a bike back to the
>> dealer to have the chain adjusted...
>
> *ding* Like my H2 SX
>
> The thing has a (frankly pointless) single-sided swingarm, meaning
> chain adjustment entails rotating a FOAD eccentric bearing in the
> swingarm housing. For which one requires a FOAD C-spanner. Which is
> not supplied in the toolkit. The owners handbook really does say to
> take the bike to the dealer to have the chain adjusted!
>
> I am now the proud owner of the appopriate C-spanner, and, by
> coincidence, adjsuted my chain using it this morning

My old Daytona has the same arrangement, but with one difference that
the c-spanner is in the toolkit and it is not a return to dealer adjustment.

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From: Ace@ch.com (Ace)
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Subject: Re: Are centre stands made of unobtainium?
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2023 16:24:21 +0200
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 by: Ace - Thu, 8 Jun 2023 14:24 UTC

On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 12:44:01 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 11:32:51 -0000 (UTC), wessie
><willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>
>>I've seem some owner's handbooks advise riders to take a bike back to the
>>dealer to have the chain adjusted...
>
>*ding* Like my H2 SX
>
>The thing has a (frankly pointless) single-sided swingarm, meaning
>chain adjustment entails rotating a FOAD eccentric bearing in the
>swingarm housing. For which one requires a FOAD C-spanner. Which is
>not supplied in the toolkit. The owners handbook really does say to
>take the bike to the dealer to have the chain adjusted!
>
>I am now the proud owner of the appopriate C-spanner, and, by
>coincidence, adjsuted my chain using it this morning

You bought the proper tool? I thought we managed perfectly well
without it when you had to do it here last year.

But yes, frankly ridiculous, especially given the frequency with which
adjustment would be necessary. Did it last the rest of the trip on
that one adjustment?

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

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 by: Ace - Thu, 8 Jun 2023 14:26 UTC

On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 12:52:29 +0100, Tim <nobody@home.co.uk> wrote:

>On 08/06/2023 12:44, Champ wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 11:32:51 -0000 (UTC), wessie
>> <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I've seem some owner's handbooks advise riders to take a bike back to the
>>> dealer to have the chain adjusted...
>>
>> *ding* Like my H2 SX
>>
>> The thing has a (frankly pointless) single-sided swingarm, meaning
>> chain adjustment entails rotating a FOAD eccentric bearing in the
>> swingarm housing. For which one requires a FOAD C-spanner. Which is
>> not supplied in the toolkit. The owners handbook really does say to
>> take the bike to the dealer to have the chain adjusted!
>>
>> I am now the proud owner of the appopriate C-spanner, and, by
>> coincidence, adjsuted my chain using it this morning
>
>My old Daytona has the same arrangement, but with one difference that
>the c-spanner is in the toolkit and it is not a return to dealer adjustment.

Yeah, my Sprint ST likewise, except the C-spanner was made of cheese
and the internal bit of the hub adjustment were not properly sealed,
meaning that it locked solid, resulting in a lengthy argument with
Triumph's warranty people who were determined to show that it was user
error despite the corroded parts not being user-accessible...

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

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 by: RustyHinge - Thu, 8 Jun 2023 16:32 UTC

On 08/06/2023 15:24, Ace wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 12:44:01 +0100, Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 11:32:51 -0000 (UTC), wessie
>> <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I've seem some owner's handbooks advise riders to take a bike back to the
>>> dealer to have the chain adjusted...
>>
>> *ding* Like my H2 SX
>>
>> The thing has a (frankly pointless) single-sided swingarm, meaning
>> chain adjustment entails rotating a FOAD eccentric bearing in the
>> swingarm housing. For which one requires a FOAD C-spanner. Which is
>> not supplied in the toolkit. The owners handbook really does say to
>> take the bike to the dealer to have the chain adjusted!
>>
>> I am now the proud owner of the appopriate C-spanner, and, by
>> coincidence, adjsuted my chain using it this morning
>
> You bought the proper tool? I thought we managed perfectly well
> without it when you had to do it here last year.
>
> But yes, frankly ridiculous, especially given the frequency with which
> adjustment would be necessary. Did it last the rest of the trip on
> that one adjustment?

I wonder how the owners of Velo's got on in those days, with their
rather bizarre ritual for adjusting FD chains?

I could probably still do it, even though my last Velo [ :-( ] was
around 197# - I had a 1964 Clubman's Venom.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

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 by: Champ - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 12:28 UTC

On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 16:24:21 +0200, Ace <Ace@ch.com> wrote:

>>>I've seem some owner's handbooks advise riders to take a bike back to the
>>>dealer to have the chain adjusted...

>>*ding* Like my H2 SX
>>
>>The thing has a (frankly pointless) single-sided swingarm, meaning
>>chain adjustment entails rotating a FOAD eccentric bearing in the
>>swingarm housing. For which one requires a FOAD C-spanner. Which is
>>not supplied in the toolkit. The owners handbook really does say to
>>take the bike to the dealer to have the chain adjusted!
>>
>>I am now the proud owner of the appopriate C-spanner, and, by
>>coincidence, adjsuted my chain using it this morning

>You bought the proper tool? I thought we managed perfectly well
>without it when you had to do it here last year.

Yes. While a drift and a hammer does work, I thought I'd try and do
it properly when I could.

>But yes, frankly ridiculous, especially given the frequency with which
>adjustment would be necessary. Did it last the rest of the trip on
>that one adjustment?

Just about. The chain was definitely at the end of its life when I
got home, and replacement was a contributory factor to the HFM!
service bill I posted about separately
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

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