After a number of years mostly away from umra I am dipping my toe in the
water to see if I still like to spend time here.

An update on my life is needed, partly to explain why I'm toe-dipping
and partly so you can just catch up.

In the last three years I have lost both my parents and, very recently,
my final Mike (who was actually known as Mike 2 because of when I first
met him). We had known each other for 30 years and been an 'item' for
six. We didn't live together, but spoke two or three times a day and
spent at least a week together every month. Of all the people in my
life, he was the best friend I ever had, brilliant, interesting, full of
humour and silliness and the most honest even when it hurt. I am
struggling with the grief. Mike had multiple myeloma for five of our
six years so after we resumed seeing each other when the worst of Covid
was over I continued to avoid many public situations and found also that
my friends had drifted away.

When my parents died they left me (as an only child) everything, which
as they lived in Henley at the time of their deaths was quite a lot. I
am spending it on rebuilding a lovely house elsewhere in Stroud,
future-proofing it - no third floor studio, underfloor heating, lift,
etc. It will be beautiful and I know how lucky I am to have been left
the money to do it.

But coming from an army family, it's been a big surprise and a wonderful
thing that I've lived in this house for more than half my life - 35
years. Most of the major events in my life have happened while I've
lived here. This week it's going on the market, and I am grieving for
the house too.

Oh yes, I got Covid immediately after Mike died. So only just out of
that and starting to grieve. Quel irony!

Did you want to know all this? Most of you, probably not. Some of you
already know it from another place. But for anyone who has read this
far, it's a sort of self-introduction, not as a newbie of course, but as
an absentee.

--
Jane
The Potter in the Purple socks - to reply, please remove PURPLE
BTME

http://www.clothandclay.co.uk/umra/cookbook.htm - Umrats' recipes

On 01/08/2023 09:38, Jane Vernon wrote:
> But for anyone who has read this far, it's a sort of self-introduction,
> not as a newbie of course, but as an absentee.

I am delighted that you might not be an absentee any more, Jane! I
sympathise with you for all your losses but wish you every happiness in
your new home. Do stick around - we all benefit from a bit of Purple in
our lives!
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

On 1.8.23 09:38, Jane Vernon wrote:
> After a number of years mostly away from umra I am dipping my toe in the
> water to see if I still like to spend time here.
>
> An update on my life is needed, partly to explain why I'm toe-dipping
> and partly so you can just catch up.
>
> In the last three years I have lost both my parents and, very recently,
> my final Mike (who was actually known as Mike 2 because of when I first
> met him).  We had known each other for 30 years and been an 'item' for
> six.  We didn't live together, but spoke two or three times a day and
> spent at least a week together every month.  Of all the people in my
> life, he was the best friend I ever had, brilliant, interesting, full of
> humour and silliness and the most honest even when it hurt. I am
> struggling with the grief.  Mike had multiple myeloma for five of our
> six years so after we resumed seeing each other when the worst of Covid
> was over I continued to avoid many public situations and found also that
> my friends had drifted away.
>
> When my parents died they left me (as an only child) everything, which
> as they lived in Henley at the time of their deaths was quite a lot.  I
> am spending it on rebuilding a lovely house elsewhere in Stroud,
> future-proofing it - no third floor studio, underfloor heating, lift,
> etc.  It will be beautiful and I know how lucky I am to have been left
> the money to do it.
>
> But coming from an army family, it's been a big surprise and a wonderful
> thing that I've lived in this house for more than half my life - 35
> years.  Most of the major events in my life have happened while I've
> lived here.  This week it's going on the market, and I am grieving for
> the house too.
>
> Oh yes, I got Covid immediately after Mike died.  So only just out of
> that and starting to grieve.  Quel irony!
>
> Did you want to know all this?  Most of you, probably not.  Some of you
> already know it from another place.  But for anyone who has read this
> far, it's a sort of self-introduction, not as a newbie of course, but as
> an absentee.
>
>

Once an umrat always an umrat so I cannot say welcome back - because you
never left - but it is a pleasure to read your words and to hear your
news - the good and the bad - because knowing each other makes us closer.

Here we celebrated 34 years of marriage last week and we spend a lot of
time on holiday so there are disappearing and re-appearing acts from
here quite frequently; next up is Corsica and Sardinia followed by a
visit to the Deep South and more holidays are booked. Also we are lucky
that health wise nothing too awful has happened as yet (touches wooden
bonce bone) and can still get around to most of what we want to do.

And we never had covid as far as we are aware!

And talking of umrats I recently heard from Mike Brown who remains on
Air for some hours every week with CHBN in Truro (Friday afternoons if
anyone wants to join us) - although he admits that he no longer listens
to The Archers. He is not 100% at the moment healthwise but against
that he has also moved and has a new partner - who delivers cakes whilst
he is on air!

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

On 01/08/2023 09:38, Jane Vernon wrote:
>
> Did you want to know all this?  Most of you, probably not.

<mode = Delboy> Au cointreau !

Lovely to see you PP and I hope we can interest you enough to stay
around, but it's often a very quiet place these days. I'd seen the photo
of your kiln being moved so knew something was happening, so good to
have the update.

Really sorry to hear about your losses. Parents you expect, not that it
lessens the loss, but losing someone like Mike 2 leaves a huge hole in
your life. [[[hugs]]]

On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 09:38:26 +0100, Jane Vernon
<spam@nopotteratthisaddress.co.uk> scrawled in the dust...

>After a number of years mostly away from umra I am dipping my toe in the
>water to see if I still like to spend time here.

Good to see you here!
I was aware of most of what you've been going through, but you've just
filled in a couple of gaps.

I took a look at your new house on street view recently but had no idea you
were remodelling it to such an extent. It looks like a pleasant
neighbourhood, right on the edge of town. Have you met all the neighbours
yet?

May you spend many happy years there, and continue to visit umra too.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

In message <kiruk0Ff75kU1@mid.individual.net> at Tue, 1 Aug 2023
09:38:26, Jane Vernon <spam@nopotteratthisaddress.co.uk> writes
>After a number of years mostly away from umra I am dipping my toe in
>the water to see if I still like to spend time here.

Welcome back.
[]
>In the last three years I have lost both my parents and, very recently,
>my final Mike (who was actually known as Mike 2 because of when I first

Ouch, all in three years is really nasty. I/we lost my parents but with
a much longer gap, and have probably lost my best friends through stupid
action on my part (they're not ill).
[]
>life, he was the best friend I ever had, brilliant, interesting, full
>of humour and silliness and the most honest even when it hurt. I am

I know what you mean.
[]
>But coming from an army family, it's been a big surprise and a
>wonderful thing that I've lived in this house for more than half my

I know what you mean - I/we had a sort of army background (Dad was
civilian but attached to an army unit), and when I sort of entered
adulthood, was looking forward to _not_ moving a lot. (It was the ~1980
property boom when it seemed to be _expected_ that people even in
civilian life would move about every three years. I wanted none of
that.)

>life - 35 years. Most of the major events in my life have happened
>while I've lived here. This week it's going on the market, and I am
>grieving for the house too.

IKWYM.
>
>Oh yes, I got Covid immediately after Mike died. So only just out of
>that and starting to grieve. Quel irony!

Glad you're at least over CoViD. Do look after yourself.
>
>Did you want to know all this? Most of you, probably not. Some of you
>already know it from another place. But for anyone who has read this
>far, it's a sort of self-introduction, not as a newbie of course, but
>as an absentee.
>
"Absentee" suggests you've been AWOL and have to apologise. You most
definitely don't; welcome back, and I hope you stay.
>
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

How do you govern a country that seems to have decided that facts are the work
of the devil? - Andy Hamilton on HIGNFY, 2010

On 01-Aug-23 11:09, krw wrote:
> On 1.8.23 09:38, Jane Vernon wrote:
>> After a number of years mostly away from umra I am dipping my toe in
>> the water to see if I still like to spend time here.
>>
>> An update on my life is needed, partly to explain why I'm toe-dipping
>> and partly so you can just catch up.
>>
>> In the last three years I have lost both my parents and, very
>> recently, my final Mike (who was actually known as Mike 2 because of
>> when I first met him).  We had known each other for 30 years and been
>> an 'item' for six.  We didn't live together, but spoke two or three
>> times a day and spent at least a week together every month.  Of all
>> the people in my life, he was the best friend I ever had, brilliant,
>> interesting, full of humour and silliness and the most honest even
>> when it hurt. I am struggling with the grief.  Mike had multiple
>> myeloma for five of our six years so after we resumed seeing each
>> other when the worst of Covid was over I continued to avoid many
>> public situations and found also that my friends had drifted away.
>>
>> When my parents died they left me (as an only child) everything, which
>> as they lived in Henley at the time of their deaths was quite a lot.
>> I am spending it on rebuilding a lovely house elsewhere in Stroud,
>> future-proofing it - no third floor studio, underfloor heating, lift,
>> etc.  It will be beautiful and I know how lucky I am to have been left
>> the money to do it.
>>
>> But coming from an army family, it's been a big surprise and a
>> wonderful thing that I've lived in this house for more than half my
>> life - 35 years.  Most of the major events in my life have happened
>> while I've lived here.  This week it's going on the market, and I am
>> grieving for the house too.
>>
>> Oh yes, I got Covid immediately after Mike died.  So only just out of
>> that and starting to grieve.  Quel irony!
>>
>> Did you want to know all this?  Most of you, probably not.  Some of
>> you already know it from another place.  But for anyone who has read
>> this far, it's a sort of self-introduction, not as a newbie of course,
>> but as an absentee.
>>
>>
>
> Once an umrat always an umrat so I cannot say welcome back - because you
> never left - but it is a pleasure to read your words and to hear your
> news - the good and the bad - because knowing each other makes us closer.
>
> Here we celebrated 34 years of marriage last week and we spend a lot of
> time on holiday so there are disappearing and re-appearing acts from
> here quite frequently; next up is Corsica and Sardinia followed by a
> visit to the Deep South and more holidays are booked.  Also we are lucky
> that health wise nothing too awful has happened as yet (touches wooden
> bonce bone) and can still get around to most of what we want to do.
>
> And we never had covid as far as we are aware!
>
> And talking of umrats I recently heard from Mike Brown who remains on
> Air for some hours every week with CHBN in Truro (Friday afternoons if
> anyone wants to join us) - although he admits that he no longer listens
> to The Archers.  He is not 100% at the moment healthwise but against
> that he has also moved and has a new partner - who delivers cakes whilst
> he is on air!
>
Others have said most of it, so I'll leave it at

Welcome home, Jane.

--
Sam Plusnet

On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 11:53:53 AM UTC, BrritSki wrote:
> On 01/08/2023 09:38, Jane Vernon wrote:
> >
> > Did you want to know all this? Most of you, probably not.
> <mode = Delboy> Au cointreau !
>
> Lovely to see you PP and I hope we can interest you enough to stay
> around, but it's often a very quiet place these days. I'd seen the photo
> of your kiln being moved so knew something was happening, so good to
> have the update.
>
> Really sorry to hear about your losses. Parents you expect, not that it
> lessens the loss, but losing someone like Mike 2 leaves a huge hole in
> your life. [[[hugs]]]

AOL to wot Brritski sed.

Nick
nickodell49@yahoo.ca

On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 10:28:51 +0100, Jenny M Benson
<NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>On 01/08/2023 09:38, Jane Vernon wrote:
>> But for anyone who has read this far, it's a sort of self-introduction,
>> not as a newbie of course, but as an absentee.
>
>I am delighted that you might not be an absentee any more, Jane! I
>sympathise with you for all your losses but wish you every happiness in
>your new home. Do stick around - we all benefit from a bit of Purple in
>our lives!

Yes, I see you in the other place buyt your input here is good to see
too.

Thanks for the welcome back. I'll stick around for a bit ...

Need a new sig. Have not been a potter for about three years. Still
doing textiles work and now making silver clay jewellery as well.

--
Jane
The Potter in the Purple socks - to reply, please remove PURPLE
BTME

http://www.clothandclay.co.uk/umra/cookbook.htm - Umrats' recipes

Jane Vernon <spam@nopotteratthisaddress.co.uk> wrote:
> Thanks for the welcome back. I'll stick around for a bit ...
>
> Need a new sig. Have not been a potter for about three years. Still
> doing textiles work and now making silver clay jewellery as well.
>
>

If retired…. How about ‘Potterer’?;-)))

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

In message <uadsn8$4m8s$1@dont-email.me> at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:28:40,
Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
>Jane Vernon <spam@nopotteratthisaddress.co.uk> wrote:
>> Thanks for the welcome back. I'll stick around for a bit ...
>>
>> Need a new sig. Have not been a potter for about three years. Still
>> doing textiles work and now making silver clay jewellery as well.
>>
>>
>
>If retired…. How about ‘Potterer’?;-)))
>
Nice!

If not: the mauve maker? (Assuming purple/mauve still features.)

I still remember the purple socks!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

.... the greatest musical festival in the world that doesn't involve mud.
- Eddie Mair, RT 2014/8/16-22

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <uadsn8$4m8s$1@dont-email.me> at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:28:40,
> Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
>> Jane Vernon <spam@nopotteratthisaddress.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Thanks for the welcome back. I'll stick around for a bit ...
>>>
>>> Need a new sig. Have not been a potter for about three years. Still
>>> doing textiles work and now making silver clay jewellery as well.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If retired…. How about ‘Potterer’?;-)))
>>
> Nice!
>
> If not: the mauve maker? (Assuming purple/mauve still features.)
>
> I still remember the purple socks!

Chuckle. Lovely to see you back!

Mrs McT

On 02/08/2023 21:33, Chris wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>> In message <uadsn8$4m8s$1@dont-email.me> at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:28:40,
>> Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
>>> Jane Vernon <spam@nopotteratthisaddress.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the welcome back. I'll stick around for a bit ...
>>>>
>>>> Need a new sig. Have not been a potter for about three years. Still
>>>> doing textiles work and now making silver clay jewellery as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If retired…. How about ‘Potterer’?;-)))
>>>
>> Nice!
>>
>> If not: the mauve maker? (Assuming purple/mauve still features.)
>>
>> I still remember the purple socks!
>
> Chuckle. Lovely to see you back!
>
> Mrs McT
>
>

I still wear purple socks, almost exclusively. Also many other clothes
are purple and my hair and nails are always purple these days.

Decided on the Amethyst Artist because it has a connection to the jewellery.

--
Jane
The Amethyst Artist
BTME

http://www.clothandclay.co.uk/umra/cookbook.htm - Umrats' recipes

On 03/08/2023 10:29, Jane Vernon wrote:
> On 02/08/2023 21:33, Chris wrote:
>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <uadsn8$4m8s$1@dont-email.me> at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:28:40,
>>> Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
>>>> Jane Vernon <spam@nopotteratthisaddress.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for the welcome back.  I'll stick around for a bit ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Need a new sig.  Have not been a potter for about three years.  Still
>>>>> doing textiles work and now making silver clay jewellery as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If retired…. How about ‘Potterer’?;-)))
>>>>
>>> Nice!
>>>
>>> If not: the mauve maker? (Assuming purple/mauve still features.)
>>>
>>> I still remember the purple socks!
>>
>>   Chuckle.  Lovely to see you back!
>>
>> Mrs McT
>>
>>
>
> I still wear purple socks, almost exclusively.  Also many other clothes
> are purple and my hair and nails are always purple these days.
>
> Decided on the Amethyst Artist because it has a connection to the
> jewellery.
>

According to my local gem expert amethysts are a cure for hangovers,
thugh I haven't managed to persuade her to tell me how they should be taken.

john

On 03/08/2023 10:51, John Ashby wrote:
> On 03/08/2023 10:29, Jane Vernon wrote:
>> On 02/08/2023 21:33, Chris wrote:
>>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <uadsn8$4m8s$1@dont-email.me> at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:28:40,
>>>> Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
>>>>> Jane Vernon <spam@nopotteratthisaddress.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks for the welcome back.  I'll stick around for a bit ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Need a new sig.  Have not been a potter for about three years.  Still
>>>>>> doing textiles work and now making silver clay jewellery as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If retired…. How about ‘Potterer’?;-)))
>>>>>
>>>> Nice!
>>>>
>>>> If not: the mauve maker? (Assuming purple/mauve still features.)
>>>>
>>>> I still remember the purple socks!
>>>
>>>   Chuckle.  Lovely to see you back!
>>>
>>> Mrs McT
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I still wear purple socks, almost exclusively.  Also many other
>> clothes are purple and my hair and nails are always purple these days.
>>
>> Decided on the Amethyst Artist because it has a connection to the
>> jewellery.
>>
>
> According to my local gem expert amethysts are a cure for hangovers,
> thugh I haven't managed to persuade her to tell me how they should be
> taken.
>
> john

There is always a large amethyst in a bishop's offical ring. They are
actually supposed to prevent hangovers in the first place, no matter how
much you drink. Also stops poisoning, much the same thing in the end, I
suppose.
--
Kate B

On 03/08/2023 12:12, Kate B wrote:
> On 03/08/2023 10:51, John Ashby wrote:
>> On 03/08/2023 10:29, Jane Vernon wrote:
>>>
>>> Decided on the Amethyst Artist because it has a connection to the
>>> jewellery.
>>>
>>
>> According to my local gem expert amethysts are a cure for hangovers,
>> thugh I haven't managed to persuade her to tell me how they should be
>> taken.

You buy one for your local gem expert. HTH HAND

> There is always a large amethyst in a bishop's offical ring.

TMI

On 03/08/2023 12:35, BrritSki wrote:
> On 03/08/2023 12:12, Kate B wrote:
>> On 03/08/2023 10:51, John Ashby wrote:
>>> On 03/08/2023 10:29, Jane Vernon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Decided on the Amethyst Artist because it has a connection to the
>>>> jewellery.
>>>>
>>>
>>> According to my local gem expert amethysts are a cure for hangovers,
>>> thugh I haven't managed to persuade her to tell me how they should be
>>> taken.
>
> You buy one for your local gem expert. HTH  HAND
>
I think she has access to plenty, though most of them are in the
Ashmolean Museum.

john

On 03/08/2023 12:12, Kate B wrote:
> On 03/08/2023 10:51, John Ashby wrote:
>> On 03/08/2023 10:29, Jane Vernon wrote:
>>> On 02/08/2023 21:33, Chris wrote:
>>>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <uadsn8$4m8s$1@dont-email.me> at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:28:40,
>>>>> Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
>>>>>> Jane Vernon <spam@nopotteratthisaddress.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks for the welcome back.  I'll stick around for a bit ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Need a new sig.  Have not been a potter for about three years.
>>>>>>> Still
>>>>>>> doing textiles work and now making silver clay jewellery as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If retired…. How about ‘Potterer’?;-)))
>>>>>>
>>>>> Nice!
>>>>>
>>>>> If not: the mauve maker? (Assuming purple/mauve still features.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I still remember the purple socks!
>>>>
>>>>   Chuckle.  Lovely to see you back!
>>>>
>>>> Mrs McT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I still wear purple socks, almost exclusively.  Also many other
>>> clothes are purple and my hair and nails are always purple these days.
>>>
>>> Decided on the Amethyst Artist because it has a connection to the
>>> jewellery.
>>>
>>
>> According to my local gem expert amethysts are a cure for hangovers,
>> thugh I haven't managed to persuade her to tell me how they should be
>> taken.
>>
>> john
>
> There is always a large amethyst in a bishop's offical ring. They are
> actually supposed to prevent hangovers in the first place, no matter how
> much you drink. Also stops poisoning, much the same thing in the end, I
> suppose.

"Pour the Archdeacon a sherry, will you Noote."

john

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 2:36:00 PM UTC, John Ashby wrote:
> On 03/08/2023 12:12, Kate B wrote:
> > On 03/08/2023 10:51, John Ashby wrote:
> >> On 03/08/2023 10:29, Jane Vernon wrote:
> >>> On 02/08/2023 21:33, Chris wrote:
> >>>> J. P. Gilliver <G6...@255soft.uk> wrote:
> >>>>> In message <uadsn8$4m8s$1...@dont-email.me> at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:28:40,
> >>>>> Mike McMillan <toodl...@virginmedia.com> writes
> >>>>>> Jane Vernon <sp...@nopotteratthisaddress.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Thanks for the welcome back. I'll stick around for a bit ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Need a new sig. Have not been a potter for about three years.
> >>>>>>> Still
> >>>>>>> doing textiles work and now making silver clay jewellery as well.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If retired…. How about ‘Potterer’?;-)))
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Nice!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If not: the mauve maker? (Assuming purple/mauve still features.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I still remember the purple socks!
> >>>>
> >>>> Chuckle. Lovely to see you back!
> >>>>
> >>>> Mrs McT
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I still wear purple socks, almost exclusively. Also many other
> >>> clothes are purple and my hair and nails are always purple these days..
> >>>
> >>> Decided on the Amethyst Artist because it has a connection to the
> >>> jewellery.
> >>>
> >>
> >> According to my local gem expert amethysts are a cure for hangovers,
> >> thugh I haven't managed to persuade her to tell me how they should be
> >> taken.
> >>
> >> john
> >
> > There is always a large amethyst in a bishop's offical ring. They are
> > actually supposed to prevent hangovers in the first place, no matter how
> > much you drink. Also stops poisoning, much the same thing in the end, I
> > suppose.
> "Pour the Archdeacon a sherry, will you Noote."
>
Pauline Devaney's attempts to get the BBC to commission that show even though it had been written by a mere woman were dramatised in "All Mouth and Trousers" on BBC Radio 4 and IMO is worth a listen next time it turns up on R4x.

Nick
nickodell49@yahoo.ca

On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 9:51:07 AM UTC, John Ashby wrote:
> On 03/08/2023 10:29, Jane Vernon wrote:
> > On 02/08/2023 21:33, Chris wrote:
> >> J. P. Gilliver <G6...@255soft.uk> wrote:
> >>> In message <uadsn8$4m8s$1...@dont-email.me> at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 15:28:40,
> >>> Mike McMillan <toodl...@virginmedia.com> writes
> >>>> Jane Vernon <sp...@nopotteratthisaddress.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks for the welcome back. I'll stick around for a bit ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Need a new sig. Have not been a potter for about three years. Still
> >>>>> doing textiles work and now making silver clay jewellery as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If retired…. How about ‘Potterer’?;-)))
> >>>>
> >>> Nice!
> >>>
> >>> If not: the mauve maker? (Assuming purple/mauve still features.)
> >>>
> >>> I still remember the purple socks!
> >>
> >> Chuckle. Lovely to see you back!
> >>
> >> Mrs McT
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I still wear purple socks, almost exclusively. Also many other clothes
> > are purple and my hair and nails are always purple these days.
> >
> > Decided on the Amethyst Artist because it has a connection to the
> > jewellery.
> >
> According to my local gem expert amethysts are a cure for hangovers,
> thugh I haven't managed to persuade her to tell me how they should be taken.
>
Lightly?

I used to go for intensive Spanish lessons from a teacher who lived in Santos Lugares[1] which is just over the border from the city of Buenos Aires in the province of the same name. As well as teaching she also offered light therapy. People could come to be healed by being bathed in light which had been passed through the appropriate stones. She also sold bottles of water which had been bathed in the light of those stones.

I only went for the Spanish lessons.

Nick
nickodell49@yahoo.ca

[1]Literally "Holy Places." The town had been built around a full size replica of Lourdes Cathedral and grotto which in themselves became a place of pilgrimage.

In message <4e159efd-1eab-4bd5-a23a-8f354508abe6n@googlegroups.com> at
Thu, 3 Aug 2023 11:51:55, Nick Odell <nickodell@bigfoot.com> writes
[]
>[1]Literally "Holy Places." The town had been built around a full size
>replica of Lourdes Cathedral and grotto

Why? (I don't mean why the town round it, but why the replica in the
first place!)

> which in themselves became a place of pilgrimage.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Look at those early black-and-white episodes of /Coronation Street/;
like Ibsen in an flowered pinny. - Iam McMillan, RT 2020/2/22-28

On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 20:57:00 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

>In message <4e159efd-1eab-4bd5-a23a-8f354508abe6n@googlegroups.com> at
>Thu, 3 Aug 2023 11:51:55, Nick Odell <nickodell@bigfoot.com> writes
>[]
>>[1]Literally "Holy Places." The town had been built around a full size
>>replica of Lourdes Cathedral and grotto
>
>Why? (I don't mean why the town round it, but why the replica in the
>first place!)

A pilgrimage from their to the original Lourdes Cathedral could be
problematic (or just a boodly long way).

My good friend in Kent was persuaded to take her elder daughter to Lourdes
in search of a miracle - the child had suffered brain damage and subsequent
other problems from a dose of flu at the age of two (her brother, in utero
at the time, also suffered similar problems - he didn't go to Lourdes).
They didn't find a miracle, but the daughter is now in her late 50s (her
brother died a few years ago).

>> which in themselves became a place of pilgrimage.

--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

In message <8c9oci1t0klt039k9e2e5rqkrcpq0cc5bg@4ax.com> at Thu, 3 Aug
2023 23:21:39, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
>On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 20:57:00 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
>scrawled in the dust...
>
>>In message <4e159efd-1eab-4bd5-a23a-8f354508abe6n@googlegroups.com> at
>>Thu, 3 Aug 2023 11:51:55, Nick Odell <nickodell@bigfoot.com> writes
>>[]
>>>[1]Literally "Holy Places." The town had been built around a full size
>>>replica of Lourdes Cathedral and grotto
>>
>>Why? (I don't mean why the town round it, but why the replica in the
>>first place!)
>
>A pilgrimage from their to the original Lourdes Cathedral could be
>problematic (or just a boodly long way).

So whatever imbues the original Lourdes with Special Qualities, imbues
replicas too?
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"That was a great speech. Every thinking American will vote for you."
"That's not enough. I need a majority." - Mo Udall

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 4:49:08 AM UTC+1, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <8c9oci1t0klt039k9...@4ax.com> at Thu, 3 Aug
> 2023 23:21:39, Penny <sp...@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
> >On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 20:57:00 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6...@255soft.uk>
> >scrawled in the dust...
> >
> >>In message <4e159efd-1eab-4bd5...@googlegroups.com> at
> >>Thu, 3 Aug 2023 11:51:55, Nick Odell <nick...@bigfoot.com> writes
> >>[]
> >>>[1]Literally "Holy Places." The town had been built around a full size
> >>>replica of Lourdes Cathedral and grotto
> >>
> >>Why? (I don't mean why the town round it, but why the replica in the
> >>first place!)
> >
> >A pilgrimage from their to the original Lourdes Cathedral could be
> >problematic (or just a boodly long way).
> So whatever imbues the original Lourdes with Special Qualities, imbues
> replicas too?
> []
I think Penny has it. Cement is cheap and plentiful and France is a boodly long way.

As they might say on the BBC "Other shrines are available."

I think there's little doubt that the people who built Lourdes did so because of their faith and it means what they built it to mean. The people of Ituzaingó, further away and to the north west of Buenos Aires city, maybe not so much. They have built replicas of the leaning tower of Pisa and the Eiffel tower.

Nick
nickodell49@yahoo.ca