On Fri, 04 Aug 2023 13:39:43 +0100, Sqirrel99
<secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mark Olson wrote:
>> Sqirrel99 <secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Mark Olson wrote:
>>>> Are 'Road Grimed Astronauts' included in the latter group as well?
>>>> https://www.aerostich.com/road-grimed-astronaut
>>> Do you have/use a Roadcrafter suit ?
>>> After having read the following review, I'm intrigued -
>>>
>>> https://dancingthepolka.com/2018/11/19/aerostich-r3-roadcrafter-riding-suit-review/
>>
>> I do. I tried to reply earlier but my tin newsreader crashed.
>>
>> I'm on my third Aerostich one-piece suit. The first one lasted about
>> 18 years, I've still got it as a backup. The 2nd one was involuntarily
>> donated to some thieving toe rag scrote in a car park in Pisa.
>>
>> I can confirm from experience that they do a good job of saving your
>> skin in an off, and have lots of vents and well placed zippers/pockets
>> for utility.
>>
>> Not a cheap option but given the durability (and repairability,
>> their factory is just 3 hours north of me) I think it's a good value.
>
> Thanks. I like the idea of a rugged oversuit like these, but they
>don't seem easy to buy in the UK. Klim made a rip-of^H^H^H^H^H^H similar
>suit for a while, but this seems to be discontinued now.
>
>Maybe next time I'm in the USA....

Talking of waterproofs generally, my two-piece kit is great... until
water wicks up between the jacket and trousers and I end up with a wet
stomach. Do those bib-type strouser avoid this? and if so, do they
have some facility for urgent motorway stops withouth having to remove
one's jacket?

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-Pip

On 04/08/2023 21:34, Pipl wrote:

> Talking of waterproofs generally, my two-piece kit is great... until
> water wicks up between the jacket and trousers and I end up with a
> wet stomach. Do those bib-type strouser avoid this? and if so,

Yes

> do they have some facility for urgent motorway stops withouth having
> to remove one's jacket?
They're open at the ankles... :-)

On mine the bib is detachable and zips onto the waistband of the
trousers around the sides and back. The bib has a zip down the front and
the trousers fasten as normal so easy to get on and off and pitstops can
be done with the jacket on.

--
Bruce Horrocks
FJR1300AS

siwilson wrote:

> Didn't I read elsewhere that you have a Klim jacket?

Mere details.

--
Simon

Bruce Horrocks wrote:
> On 04/08/2023 21:34, Pipl wrote:
>
>> Talking of waterproofs generally, my two-piece kit is great... until
>> water wicks up between the jacket and trousers and I end up with a
>> wet stomach. Do those bib-type strouser avoid this? and if so,
>
> Yes
>
>> do they have some facility for urgent motorway stops withouth having
>> to remove one's jacket?
> They're open at the ankles... :-)
>
> On mine the bib is detachable and zips onto the waistband of the
> trousers around the sides and back. The bib has a zip down the front and
> the trousers fasten as normal so easy to get on and off and pitstops can
> be done with the jacket on.

Mine too - buts this also means that the bib doesn't fully solve the
'wet stomach' problem, although it helps a bit. Water still either gets
though the zip, or through the small gap at the front between the ends
of the zip.

Something like the following (much like a wader) solves the first
problem, but is a real pain at pitstop time (need to remove jacket, take
braces off shoulders and pull the top of the trousers down below waist
level).

https://wolf-moto.com/wolf-fortitude-laminated-textile-jean.html

On 04/08/2023 13:39, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>
>   Thanks. I like the idea of a rugged oversuit like these, but they
> don't seem easy to buy in the UK. Klim made a rip-of^H^H^H^H^H^H similar
> suit for a while, but this seems to be discontinued now.

https://www.klim.com/Hardanger-One-Piece-Suit-3737-001 perhaps?

On 8/8/2023 5:37 PM, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 04/08/2023 13:39, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>>
>>    Thanks. I like the idea of a rugged oversuit like these, but they
>> don't seem easy to buy in the UK. Klim made a rip-of^H^H^H^H^H^H
>> similar suit for a while, but this seems to be discontinued now.
>
> https://www.klim.com/Hardanger-One-Piece-Suit-3737-001 perhaps?
>
$1400?
Geezus!

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS & ST1100 (in memoriam)

Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 04/08/2023 13:39, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>> Thanks. I like the idea of a rugged oversuit like these, but they
>> don't seem easy to buy in the UK. Klim made a rip-of^H^H^H^H^H^H similar
>> suit for a while, but this seems to be discontinued now.
>
> https://www.klim.com/Hardanger-One-Piece-Suit-3737-001 perhaps?

That's the one I was thinking of, but it seems to be out of stock
everywhere in the UK.

On 09/08/2023 01:51, Turby wrote:
> On 8/8/2023 5:37 PM, Mike Fleming wrote:
>> On 04/08/2023 13:39, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>>>
>>>    Thanks. I like the idea of a rugged oversuit like these, but they
>>> don't seem easy to buy in the UK. Klim made a rip-of^H^H^H^H^H^H
>>> similar suit for a while, but this seems to be discontinued now.
>>
>> https://www.klim.com/Hardanger-One-Piece-Suit-3737-001 perhaps?
>>
> $1400?
> Geezus!
>

Have you seen the price of Gore-Tex bike clothing lately?

I invested in a new jacket last month from J & S just up the road. Went
to get something to match my Richa trews but they hadn't got anything in
my size. The item I got was the price of a decent old snotter bike but
it turns out 300 quid less than the Richa.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

Turby <xsurf@xmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/8/2023 5:37 PM, Mike Fleming wrote:
>> On 04/08/2023 13:39, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>>>
>>>    Thanks. I like the idea of a rugged oversuit like these, but they
>>> don't seem easy to buy in the UK. Klim made a rip-of^H^H^H^H^H^H
>>> similar suit for a while, but this seems to be discontinued now.
>>
>> https://www.klim.com/Hardanger-One-Piece-Suit-3737-001 perhaps?
>>
> $1400?
> Geezus!

My Aerostich R3 is $1547 now.

<gulp>

--
FJR1300A, GL1000, KLR650A6F, EX250J9A, DR200SE, Vespa Ciao

On 24/07/2023 17:37, Alan Lee wrote:
>> Have you booked your ferry?
>>
>
> Yes, got a cheap fare outgoing, expensive on the return.

Well, that cheap outgoing ferry went to shit pretty soon. I've just had
a phone call from Direct Ferries, apologising, and saying the fare I've
paid is just a deposit, and the total fare is likely to be 4 times more.
Which is exactly the same as the Steam Packet fare.
Apparently they werent aware of this, and they have been ringing people
all day to inform them. Another shite company who I will avoid in future.
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Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com> wrote in news:uc542s$2urkd$1@dont-
email.me:

> On 24/07/2023 17:37, Alan Lee wrote:
>>> Have you booked your ferry?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, got a cheap fare outgoing, expensive on the return.
>
> Well, that cheap outgoing ferry went to shit pretty soon. I've just had
> a phone call from Direct Ferries, apologising, and saying the fare I've
> paid is just a deposit, and the total fare is likely to be 4 times more.
> Which is exactly the same as the Steam Packet fare.
> Apparently they werent aware of this, and they have been ringing people
> all day to inform them. Another shite company who I will avoid in future.

I've given up using an agent for ferries as it is so difficult to make
changes or seek the statutory compensation if a ferry is delayed.

Dealing direct with Brittany Ferries after covid hit and then last year
when a maintenance thing outbound and a storm inbound delayed the crossing
to/from Spain was simple and efficient.

On 23/08/2023 15:11, Alan Lee wrote:
> On 24/07/2023 17:37, Alan Lee wrote:
>>> Have you booked your ferry?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, got a cheap fare outgoing, expensive on the return.
>
> Well, that cheap outgoing ferry went to shit pretty soon. I've just had
> a phone call from Direct Ferries, apologising, and saying the fare I've
> paid is just a deposit, and the total fare is likely to be 4 times more.
> Which is exactly the same as the Steam Packet fare.
> Apparently they werent aware of this, and they have been ringing people
> all day to inform them. Another shite company who I will avoid in future.

Did you pay for it at the time of booking? AIUI, if you did, then a
contract is in place.

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/Simon

On 23/08/2023 15:29, siwilson wrote:
> On 23/08/2023 15:11, Alan Lee wrote:
>> On 24/07/2023 17:37, Alan Lee wrote:
>>>> Have you booked your ferry?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, got a cheap fare outgoing, expensive on the return.
>>
>> Well, that cheap outgoing ferry went to shit pretty soon. I've just
>> had a phone call from Direct Ferries, apologising, and saying the fare
>> I've paid is just a deposit, and the total fare is likely to be 4
>> times more.
>> Which is exactly the same as the Steam Packet fare.
>> Apparently they werent aware of this, and they have been ringing
>> people all day to inform them. Another shite company who I will avoid
>> in future.
>
> Did you pay for it at the time of booking? AIUI, if you did, then a
> contract is in place.
>

Oh yes, all paid for on the day of booking. No doubt they will have some
terms hidden away on their website allowing them to change their prices.

On the Steam Packet site, it does say 'deposit only, full fare will be
known in Jan 24', no mention of that on Direct ferries, in fact it was
the only crossing that was so cheap, all the others were the typical
fare, that's why we booked it.
Having the ferry at a convenient time (11.45 on Monday morning) was what
swung it, Heysham is nearer to us, but the times from there were not
good. I've just looked again at the confirmation email, no mention of a
deposit, just the total we paid, £55.49.

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On 23/08/2023 15:11, Alan Lee wrote:
> On 24/07/2023 17:37, Alan Lee wrote:
>>> Have you booked your ferry?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, got a cheap fare outgoing, expensive on the return.
>
> Well, that cheap outgoing ferry went to shit pretty soon. I've just had
> a phone call from Direct Ferries, apologising, and saying the fare I've
> paid is just a deposit, and the total fare is likely to be 4 times more.

Touching on why a_few people stopped going to the TT/Manx

Flying in/out, at least when cheap fares were cheap, was so much better.
Requiring the stashing of a motorcycle on the island though.