Pipl wrote:

<SNIP>
>
> If a beam fell, sure, unlikely to help here, but easy to catch a
> corner of a beam that's being hoisted. Having banged my head on a
> literally rock hard mine roof (preserved, open to public) while
> wearing one, they have ther uses.

I have had to wear a hard hat quite a lot when loading at petrochemical
plants (they are usually very keen on PPE).
I have never banged my head so often as when wearing a hard hat.

--

Geoff
NTV650

On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 07:29:07 UTC+1, sweller wrote:
<snip>
> Narrator: "Which Sam are YOU?"
>
> Assembled train drivers "No.2 No.2 No.2!!!"

'It annoyed him to think of the pints of good drink that he might have had nearer a station'

fx: Checks Box.

Yup.

On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 13:27:36 +0100, RustyHinge
<rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

>Those last examples were, if you read it correctly, cases where a helmet
>IMO would be sensible protection...

Maybe if you wrote it correctly it would have helped?

--

-Pip

sweller wrote:
> A nice slice of history:
> https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-the-third-sam-1962-online

"I was wearing...
corduroy britches, digging ditches.
Pulling switches, dodging the hitches,
I was working on the railway."

GeoffC wrote:
> I have had to wear a hard hat quite a lot when loading at petrochemical
> plants (they are usually very keen on PPE).
> I have never banged my head so often as when wearing a hard hat.

They make you taller than you are used to.

On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 21:27:11 +0100, siwilson wrote:

> Tricky coves, hedgetrimmers.
>
> I can't quite work out how, but today there was a cutter/forearm
> intersection resulting in quite a lot of blood. [1]
>
> Gardening is dangerous mmmmmkay.
>
> Feeling pretty lucky. The cut was deep but somehow I didn't hit any
> tendons or other important bits.
>
> Back home after 11 stitches, now watching 127 hours.
>
> [1] and surprisingly little pain. I'm wondering if that's going to kick
> in at some point.

Faark! The worst I have ever done with a hedge trimmer is accidentally cut
through it's power cord. After doing this on more than one occasion I have
finally gone cordless. I hope you heal quickly,

--
Tony
FJR1300, Aprilia Pegaso 650 ie, BSA Bantams x3, BSA C10L, Norton Electra.

On 28/08/2023 18:10, GeoffC wrote:
> Pipl wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
>>
>> If a beam fell, sure, unlikely to help here, but easy to catch a
>> corner of a beam that's being hoisted. Having banged my head on a
>> literally rock hard mine roof (preserved, open to public) while
>> wearing one, they have ther uses.
>
> I have had to wear a hard hat quite a lot when loading at petrochemical
> plants (they are usually very keen on PPE).
> I have never banged my head so often as when wearing a hard hat.

a) Sense of security
b) but more, the helmet with its airspace raises your bonce at least two
inches.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 29/08/2023 01:10 GeoffC penned these words:
> Pipl wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
>>
>> If a beam fell, sure, unlikely to help here, but easy to catch a
>> corner of a beam that's being hoisted. Having banged my head on a
>> literally rock hard mine roof (preserved, open to public) while
>> wearing one, they have ther uses.
>
> I have had to wear a hard hat quite a lot when loading at petrochemical
> plants (they are usually very keen on PPE).
> I have never banged my head so often as when wearing a hard hat.
>

Sent my apprentice up a pole, he insisted that helmets should be worn so I dug
mine out. Footed the ladder while he climbed up, sill bugger caught the peak of
the helmet on a step where it pulled off fell down and hit me.
--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

On 28/08/2023 03:01 Mark Olson penned these words:
> Stephen Packer <stephen.packer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I grew up on a farm and strongly feel that safety gear has no place in
>> a man's wardrobe. Having said that... My brother is lacking a finger,
>> my father can't straighten a couple of his. Various relatives have/had
>> missing fingers.
>>
> My eldest has a job where he has occasion to use a chainsaw frequently.
> Once he saw the incredibly gory 'safety first' picture of a blade/limb
> interface at his place of work, he has never used a chainsaw since
> without the _full_ kit no matter how hot it is, or how quick the job
> might be.

When I was first employed by what was the Post Office Telecommunications they
had a number of fairly gory training films to show us which were apparently
based on actual incidents.

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

On 29/08/2023 15:12 TMack penned these words:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 21:27:11 +0100, siwilson wrote:
>
>> Tricky coves, hedgetrimmers.
>>
>> I can't quite work out how, but today there was a cutter/forearm
>> intersection resulting in quite a lot of blood. [1]
>>
>> Gardening is dangerous mmmmmkay.
>>
>> Feeling pretty lucky. The cut was deep but somehow I didn't hit any
>> tendons or other important bits.
>>
>> Back home after 11 stitches, now watching 127 hours.
>>
>> [1] and surprisingly little pain. I'm wondering if that's going to kick
>> in at some point.
>
> Faark! The worst I have ever done with a hedge trimmer is accidentally cut
> through it's power cord. After doing this on more than one occasion I have
> finally gone cordless. I hope you heal quickly,
>
>
>
That reminded me of my old dad and nephew. Got round to his place and one or
other of them had cut through the mower cable and they were both standing on the
damp grass each with and end of the cable attempting to bodge it without
actually having disconnected from the supply.
--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 07:12:06 +0000, TMack wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 21:27:11 +0100, siwilson wrote:
>
>> Tricky coves, hedgetrimmers.
>>
>> I can't quite work out how, but today there was a cutter/forearm
>> intersection resulting in quite a lot of blood. [1]
>>
>> Gardening is dangerous mmmmmkay.
>>
>> Feeling pretty lucky. The cut was deep but somehow I didn't hit any
>> tendons or other important bits.
>>
>> Back home after 11 stitches, now watching 127 hours.
>>
>> [1] and surprisingly little pain. I'm wondering if that's going to kick
>> in at some point.
>
> Faark! The worst I have ever done with a hedge trimmer is accidentally
> cut through it's power cord. After doing this on more than one occasion
> I have finally gone cordless. I hope you heal quickly,

"its" dammit, "its" !!!

--
Tony
FJR1300, Aprilia Pegaso 650 ie, BSA Bantams x3, BSA C10L, Norton Electra.

Sqirrel99 wrote:

> GeoffC wrote:
> > I have had to wear a hard hat quite a lot when loading at
> > petrochemical plants (they are usually very keen on PPE).
> > I have never banged my head so often as when wearing a hard hat.
>
> They make you taller than you are used to.

And wider.
And it reduces your upper peripheal vision

--

Geoff
NTV650

RustyHinge wrote:

> On 28/08/2023 18:10, GeoffC wrote:
> > Pipl wrote:
> >
> > <SNIP>
> > >
> > > If a beam fell, sure, unlikely to help here, but easy to catch a
> > > corner of a beam that's being hoisted. Having banged my head on a
> > > literally rock hard mine roof (preserved, open to public) while
> > > wearing one, they have ther uses.
> >
> > I have had to wear a hard hat quite a lot when loading at
> > petrochemical plants (they are usually very keen on PPE).
> > I have never banged my head so often as when wearing a hard hat.
>
> a) Sense of security

Don't think so because after a while you forget you are wearing it.

> b) but more, the helmet with its airspace raises your bonce at least
> two inches.

Is true.

--

Geoff
NTV650

On 29/08/2023 09:53, Boots wrote:
> On 29/08/2023 15:12 TMack penned these words:
>> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 21:27:11 +0100, siwilson wrote:
>>
>>> Tricky coves, hedgetrimmers.
>>>
>>> I can't quite work out how, but today there was a cutter/forearm
>>> intersection resulting in quite a lot of blood. [1]
>>>
>>> Gardening is dangerous mmmmmkay.
>>>
>>> Feeling pretty lucky. The cut was deep but somehow I didn't hit any
>>> tendons or other important bits.
>>>
>>> Back home after 11 stitches, now watching 127 hours.
>>>
>>> [1] and surprisingly little pain. I'm wondering if that's going to kick
>>> in at some point.
>>
>> Faark! The worst I have ever done with a hedge trimmer is accidentally cut
>> through it's power cord. After doing this on more than one occasion I have
>> finally gone cordless. I hope you heal quickly,
>>
>>
>>
> That reminded me of my old dad and nephew. Got round to his place and one or
> other of them had cut through the mower cable and they were both standing on the
> damp grass each with and end of the cable attempting to bodge it without
> actually having disconnected from the supply.
>
One of my matesused to work on live wires - "It's OK, I'm wearing rubber
boots..." One night, in my shed, famous last (nearly) words
-> FLASHBANG! <- <INSTANT DARKNESS>

Power restored and his uninsulated side-cutters hung from the cable -
nicely arc-welded to the earth wire - must have touched live, too.

True, he hadn't had an *electric* shock...

Me? Brrrrk-brrrk- brrrk-buk. While I have worked on live circuits, I use
nice insulated tools.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 28/08/2023 07:29, sweller wrote:
>
> The railway had similar films. Some were very simple and very
> effective (a melon on a broom handle stick man representing a
> shunter/driver's assistant between two engines was behaviour changing
> on this 18 year old).

For forklift drivers: https://youtu.be/ChOHnSL7ZCg?si=hbL819svDcU9RCSC

On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 2:29:07 AM UTC-4, sweller wrote:
> Mark Olson wrote:
>
> > My eldest has a job where he has occasion to use a chainsaw
> > frequently. Once he saw the incredibly gory 'safety first' picture
> > of a blade/limb interface at his place of work, he has never used a
> > chainsaw since without the full kit no matter how hot it is, or how
> > quick the job might be.
> The railway had similar films. Some were very simple and very
> effective (a melon on a broom handle stick man representing a
> shunter/driver's assistant between two engines was behaviour changing
> on this 18 year old).
>
When I got an airside pass for London airports I had to do a load of safety training. One was a grainy film of someone being sucked into a jet engine..[0]

[0] which happened to someone just a few weeks ago, I saw in the news.

On 29/08/2023 09:59, Boots wrote:
> On 28/08/2023 03:01 Mark Olson penned these words:
>> Stephen Packer <stephen.packer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I grew up on a farm and strongly feel that safety gear has no place in
>>> a man's wardrobe. Having said that... My brother is lacking a finger,
>>> my father can't straighten a couple of his. Various relatives have/had
>>> missing fingers.
>>>
>> My eldest has a job where he has occasion to use a chainsaw frequently.
>> Once he saw the incredibly gory 'safety first' picture of a blade/limb
>> interface at his place of work, he has never used a chainsaw since
>> without the _full_ kit no matter how hot it is, or how quick the job
>> might be.
>
> When I was first employed by what was the Post Office Telecommunications they
> had a number of fairly gory training films to show us which were apparently
> based on actual incidents.
>
>
Did that include the one about the pneumatic drill and the buried HV cable?

On 29/08/2023 17:13, Ben Blaney wrote:
> On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 2:29:07 AM UTC-4, sweller wrote:
>> Mark Olson wrote:
>>
>>> My eldest has a job where he has occasion to use a chainsaw
>>> frequently. Once he saw the incredibly gory 'safety first' picture
>>> of a blade/limb interface at his place of work, he has never used a
>>> chainsaw since without the full kit no matter how hot it is, or how
>>> quick the job might be.
>> The railway had similar films. Some were very simple and very
>> effective (a melon on a broom handle stick man representing a
>> shunter/driver's assistant between two engines was behaviour changing
>> on this 18 year old).
>>
> When I got an airside pass for London airports I had to do a load of safety training. One was a grainy film of someone being sucked into a jet engine.[0]
>
> [0] which happened to someone just a few weeks ago, I saw in the news.

Air going into jet engines doesn't always happen the way you might expect.
<https://flic.kr/p/2oYNjkF>

--
Bruce Horrocks
FJR1300AS

On 8/29/2023 3:33 PM, Bruce Horrocks wrote:
> On 29/08/2023 17:13, Ben Blaney wrote:
>> On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 2:29:07 AM UTC-4, sweller wrote:
>>>
>> When I got an airside pass for London airports I had to do a load of
>> safety training.  One was a grainy film of someone being sucked into a
>> jet engine.[0]
>>
>> [0] which happened to someone just a few weeks ago, I saw in the news.
>
> Air going into jet engines doesn't always happen the way you might expect.
> <https://flic.kr/p/2oYNjkF>
>
OMG. A man-made tornado.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS & ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 30/08/2023 00:25 Tim penned these words:
> On 29/08/2023 09:59, Boots wrote:
>> On 28/08/2023 03:01 Mark Olson penned these words:
>>> Stephen Packer <stephen.packer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I grew up on a farm and strongly feel that safety gear has no place in
>>>> a man's wardrobe. Having said that... My brother is lacking a finger,
>>>> my father can't straighten a couple of his. Various relatives have/had
>>>> missing fingers.
>>>>
>>> My eldest has a job where he has occasion to use a chainsaw frequently.
>>> Once he saw the incredibly gory 'safety first' picture of a blade/limb
>>> interface at his place of work, he has never used a chainsaw since
>>> without the _full_ kit no matter how hot it is, or how quick the job
>>> might be.
>>
>> When I was first employed by what was the Post Office Telecommunications they
>> had a number of fairly gory training films to show us which were apparently
>> based on actual incidents.
>>
>>
> Did that include the one about the pneumatic drill and the buried HV cable?

Possibly, there were a number. I recall the finger lost slipping on a ladder,
blinding from battery acid and impaled hand.
--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

On 29/08/2023 23:33, Bruce Horrocks wrote:
>
> Air going into jet engines doesn't always happen the way you might expect.
> <https://flic.kr/p/2oYNjkF>

Well, that answers "spit or swallow".