On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 14:23:40 -0000 (UTC), "GeoffC" <me@invalid.nl>
wrote:

>Ace wrote:
>
><SNIP>
>
>>
>> One of the key differences in practice is that hybrids tend to use the
>> 700c wheels also found on most road bikes, but usually with relatively
>> wide (compared with race-type) tyres.
>
>AKA 28" or 622 (ETRTO)
>Dontcha just love standardisation.

Yeah, great innit? I love the fact that some if the numbers, e.g. the
622 and the 700, appear to be the same 'scale' but are simply
referring to nominal trye vs. rim size. Or summat. And of course when
the 29ers came out on MTBs a few years ago that threw yet another
spanner in the works.

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

Stephen Packer <stephen.packer@gmail.com> wrote in
news:f5340c0e-6d7b-4962-8cff-c1de3d2fca85n@googlegroups.com:

> On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 12:14:59 UTC+1, Alan Lee wrote:
> <snip>
>> Benelli TNT is nearly there, though top speed wont be much more than
>> 70. The BMW G310R is also nearly there, but weighs 160kg.
>> The KTM 390 is pretty good, I had one for 2 years, 100mph is
>> possible, it's light enough (155kg?), and is sized like a 'proper'
>> bike. I never worried about leaving it parked, but, I always parked
>> up with a lock attached, and in sight. If someone is going to pinch a
>> bike, they'll get it whatever chains are attached, grinders cut
>> through typical chains in 10 seconds.
>> The Honda CB300R is in the same market as the KTM and BMW, but less
>> popular, it looks good as a small (engined) bike on its spec.
>> Given the choice, I think I'd go for the BMW, and the Honda would be
>> second choice. Depending on how tall you are, the BMW may be too
>> small, the Honda is larger.
>
> Shortish with short legs for my frame.
>
> I'd rather not buy yet another BMW really... too many of those in my
> garage!
>

it's a shame the G310 maker, TVS from India who bought Norton, don't import
their version of the bike
https://motowheeler.com/uk/bikes/tvs-apache-rtr-310-9467

> Must go and look at the Honda. Maybe the Kawasaki Versys 300 also?

On 07/10/2023 13:38, wessie wrote:
> Stephen Packer <stephen.packer@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:f5340c0e-6d7b-4962-8cff-c1de3d2fca85n@googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 12:14:59 UTC+1, Alan Lee wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> Benelli TNT is nearly there, though top speed wont be much more than
>>> 70. The BMW G310R is also nearly there, but weighs 160kg.
>>> The KTM 390 is pretty good, I had one for 2 years, 100mph is
>>> possible, it's light enough (155kg?), and is sized like a 'proper'
>>> bike. I never worried about leaving it parked, but, I always parked
>>> up with a lock attached, and in sight. If someone is going to pinch a
>>> bike, they'll get it whatever chains are attached, grinders cut
>>> through typical chains in 10 seconds.
>>> The Honda CB300R is in the same market as the KTM and BMW, but less
>>> popular, it looks good as a small (engined) bike on its spec.
>>> Given the choice, I think I'd go for the BMW, and the Honda would be
>>> second choice. Depending on how tall you are, the BMW may be too
>>> small, the Honda is larger.
>>
>> Shortish with short legs for my frame.
>>
>> I'd rather not buy yet another BMW really... too many of those in my
>> garage!
>>
>
> it's a shame the G310 maker, TVS from India who bought Norton, don't import
> their version of the bike
> https://motowheeler.com/uk/bikes/tvs-apache-rtr-310-9467
>

That is horrible.

El Fri, 29 Sep 2023 02:01:47 -0700, Turby escribió:

> So, what effect does a crossbar have on the bike? Durability,
> performance, etc?

A locust flew into my face and I locked up the brakes, thereby sliding
off the saddle. I crushed my bollocks. It hurt lots.

--
Paul.

https://paulc.es

On 17/10/2023 12:39, Paul Carmichael wrote:
> El Fri, 29 Sep 2023 02:01:47 -0700, Turby escribió:
>
>> So, what effect does a crossbar have on the bike? Durability,
>> performance, etc?
>
> A locust flew into my face and I locked up the brakes, thereby sliding
> off the saddle. I crushed my bollocks. It hurt lots.
>
Commiz.

The positive is that if it hurts, at least you still hve them.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 28/09/2023 10:01, Stephen Packer wrote:

>
> KTM 390 looks like a thief magnet.
> Yamaha MT-03 not sure
> Kawasaki... well the electric bike they've got coming
> has shit range so that's out. Shame. Z400 looks a
> bit like a thief magnet also.
> Honda CB300R looks like it's in the right sort of area
>
> What am I missing?

Horse's YBR125 is up on AutoTrader.

Top speed with me on is only about 65 but then I'm a lot plumper than you.

--
Gyp

On 17/10/2023 18:22, Gyp wrote:
> On 28/09/2023 10:01, Stephen Packer wrote:
>
>>
>> KTM 390 looks like a thief magnet.
>> Yamaha MT-03 not sure
>> Kawasaki... well the electric bike they've got coming
>> has shit range so that's out. Shame.  Z400 looks a
>> bit like a thief magnet also.
>> Honda CB300R looks like it's in the right sort of area
>>
>> What am I missing?
>
> Horse's YBR125 is up on AutoTrader.
>
> Top speed with me on is only about 65 but then I'm a lot plumper than you.
>
I'd part with my Honda 250RS for notalot.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

Gyp <a@b.c> wrote in news:ugmfru$3376o$1@dont-email.me:

> On 28/09/2023 10:01, Stephen Packer wrote:
>
>>
>> KTM 390 looks like a thief magnet.
>> Yamaha MT-03 not sure
>> Kawasaki... well the electric bike they've got coming
>> has shit range so that's out. Shame. Z400 looks a
>> bit like a thief magnet also.
>> Honda CB300R looks like it's in the right sort of area
>>
>> What am I missing?
>
> Horse's YBR125 is up on AutoTrader.
>
> Top speed with me on is only about 65 but then I'm a lot plumper than
> you.
>

has he got a bigger one now?

Oh, and I have moved to Wales. Things hung around for ages then moved
rapidly in a few days, so never got around to arrange that drink. Soz.

On 17/10/2023 19:04, wessie wrote:

>
> has he got a bigger one now?

Not yet - he's still got nowhere secure to park it in Birmingham so it's
stayed here with me, but when he's wanting to ride here he's ended up
riding one of mine.

So the little YBR's not getting the use it deserves.

> Oh, and I have moved to Wales. Things hung around for ages then moved
> rapidly in a few days, so never got around to arrange that drink. Soz.

Ah well, these things happen.

We did a day trip to Aberystwyth for an ice cream last weekend - we
could have called in.

--
Gyp

On 10/17/2023 4:39 AM, Paul Carmichael wrote:
> El Fri, 29 Sep 2023 02:01:47 -0700, Turby escribió:
>
>> So, what effect does a crossbar have on the bike? Durability,
>> performance, etc?
>
> A locust flew into my face and I locked up the brakes, thereby sliding
> off the saddle. I crushed my bollocks. It hurt lots.
>
I'll put that in the 'etc' file, _high priority_ division.

--
The erstwhile Thomas
FJR1300, R1200GS & ST1100 (in memoriam)

On 17/10/2023 19:04, wessie wrote:
> Gyp <a@b.c> wrote in news:ugmfru$3376o$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 28/09/2023 10:01, Stephen Packer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> KTM 390 looks like a thief magnet.
>>> Yamaha MT-03 not sure
>>> Kawasaki... well the electric bike they've got coming
>>> has shit range so that's out. Shame. Z400 looks a
>>> bit like a thief magnet also.
>>> Honda CB300R looks like it's in the right sort of area
>>>
>>> What am I missing?
>>
>> Horse's YBR125 is up on AutoTrader.
>>
>> Top speed with me on is only about 65 but then I'm a lot plumper than
>> you.
>>
>
> has he got a bigger one now?
>
> Oh, and I have moved to Wales. Things hung around for ages then moved
> rapidly in a few days, so never got around to arrange that drink. Soz.

I went to Wales a couple of weeks ago for the Official Monster Raving
Loony Party conference (aka pi$$up) at Llanwrtyd Wells. Quite a few
bikes about on those nice twisty roads. I wondered at the time if there
were any UKRMers in the vicinity?

Ironically the first place I went through that had a 20 mph limit was
Pembridge in England! The only others I saw were in Builth Wells and
Llanwrtyd itself. Everywhere else en route seemed to have got around
the problem of the new limit (upgrading?) by being 40 mph :-/

Chris
--
The Deuchars BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550t
http://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 18:04:01 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

>Oh, and I have moved to Wales.

Whereabout?

I was at Angelsey Circuit last month, and I'll be near Conwy again at
the end of Oct
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in news:dglvii9s7ar4f47i9341314d8fi8kq0nbi@
4ax.com:

> On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 18:04:01 -0000 (UTC), wessie
> <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>
>>Oh, and I have moved to Wales.
>
> Whereabout?
>
> I was at Angelsey Circuit last month, and I'll be near Conwy again at
> the end of Oct

Welshpool, where two of my siblings have lived for decades.

On the hill overlooking the town & River Severn to Long Mountain

view from my bedroom

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvGiADP7dAX69Q6pvgWeCS1sqAP-?e=XRqdD1

the mist is over the Severn

Surrounded by great roads with the Berwyns, Snowdonia, Cambrian Mountains,
Shropshire Hills, Radnor Hills and Brecon Beacons all nearby.

On 18/10/2023 14:55, wessie wrote:
> Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in news:dglvii9s7ar4f47i9341314d8fi8kq0nbi@
> 4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 18:04:01 -0000 (UTC), wessie
>> <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, and I have moved to Wales.
>>
>> Whereabout?
>>
>> I was at Angelsey Circuit last month, and I'll be near Conwy again at
>> the end of Oct
>
> Welshpool, where two of my siblings have lived for decades.
>
> On the hill overlooking the town & River Severn to Long Mountain
>
> view from my bedroom
>
> https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvGiADP7dAX69Q6pvgWeCS1sqAP-?e=XRqdD1
>
> the mist is over the Severn
>
> Surrounded by great roads with the Berwyns, Snowdonia, Cambrian Mountains,
> Shropshire Hills, Radnor Hills and Brecon Beacons all nearby.

Indeed. The local VMCC often stray not far away from there, particularly
if doing the Long Mynd. Though I suspect you had a different sort of
road than the Burway in mind as 'great'. The cafe at The Bog up near the
Stiperstones is a regular stop.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

Pete Fisher <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:kpadleF5gnU1@mid.individual.net:

> On 18/10/2023 14:55, wessie wrote:
>> Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in
>> news:dglvii9s7ar4f47i9341314d8fi8kq0nbi@ 4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 18:04:01 -0000 (UTC), wessie
>>> <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh, and I have moved to Wales.
>>>
>>> Whereabout?
>>>
>>> I was at Angelsey Circuit last month, and I'll be near Conwy again
>>> at the end of Oct
>>
>> Welshpool, where two of my siblings have lived for decades.
>>
>> On the hill overlooking the town & River Severn to Long Mountain
>>
>> view from my bedroom
>>
>> https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvGiADP7dAX69Q6pvgWeCS1sqAP-?e=XRqdD1
>>
>> the mist is over the Severn
>>
>> Surrounded by great roads with the Berwyns, Snowdonia, Cambrian
>> Mountains, Shropshire Hills, Radnor Hills and Brecon Beacons all
>> nearby.
>
> Indeed. The local VMCC often stray not far away from there,
> particularly if doing the Long Mynd. Though I suspect you had a
> different sort of road than the Burway in mind as 'great'. The cafe at
> The Bog up near the Stiperstones is a regular stop.
>

I did the Burway some time ago on a TDM850. Ended up riding through a
ditch on the steep bit as the minibus driver coming down ignored a
passing place and refused to reverse.

I took the satnav's shortest route from Pontesbury home on the weekend.
It took me over Long Mountain and down Welsh Harp Hollow. That was a bit
of an adventure in the car.

On 18/10/2023 18:09, wessie wrote:
> Pete Fisher <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> news:kpadleF5gnU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> On 18/10/2023 14:55, wessie wrote:
>>> Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in
>>> news:dglvii9s7ar4f47i9341314d8fi8kq0nbi@ 4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 18:04:01 -0000 (UTC), wessie
>>>> <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and I have moved to Wales.
>>>>
>>>> Whereabout?
>>>>
>>>> I was at Angelsey Circuit last month, and I'll be near Conwy again
>>>> at the end of Oct
>>>
>>> Welshpool, where two of my siblings have lived for decades.
>>>
>>> On the hill overlooking the town & River Severn to Long Mountain
>>>
>>> view from my bedroom
>>>
>>> https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvGiADP7dAX69Q6pvgWeCS1sqAP-?e=XRqdD1
>>>
>>> the mist is over the Severn
>>>
>>> Surrounded by great roads with the Berwyns, Snowdonia, Cambrian
>>> Mountains, Shropshire Hills, Radnor Hills and Brecon Beacons all
>>> nearby.
>>
>> Indeed. The local VMCC often stray not far away from there,
>> particularly if doing the Long Mynd. Though I suspect you had a
>> different sort of road than the Burway in mind as 'great'. The cafe at
>> The Bog up near the Stiperstones is a regular stop.
>>
>
> I did the Burway some time ago on a TDM850. Ended up riding through a
> ditch on the steep bit as the minibus driver coming down ignored a
> passing place and refused to reverse.
>
> I took the satnav's shortest route from Pontesbury home on the weekend.
> It took me over Long Mountain and down Welsh Harp Hollow. That was a bit
> of an adventure in the car.

Criggion is another regular point on VMCC runs.

--
Moto Morini 2C/375
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

Pete Fisher <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote in news:kpajvaF2de7U1
@mid.individual.net:

> On 18/10/2023 18:09, wessie wrote:
>> Pete Fisher <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:kpadleF5gnU1@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> On 18/10/2023 14:55, wessie wrote:
>>>> Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in
>>>> news:dglvii9s7ar4f47i9341314d8fi8kq0nbi@ 4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 18:04:01 -0000 (UTC), wessie
>>>>> <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and I have moved to Wales.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whereabout?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was at Angelsey Circuit last month, and I'll be near Conwy again
>>>>> at the end of Oct
>>>>
>>>> Welshpool, where two of my siblings have lived for decades.
>>>>
>>>> On the hill overlooking the town & River Severn to Long Mountain
>>>>
>>>> view from my bedroom
>>>>
>>>> https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvGiADP7dAX69Q6pvgWeCS1sqAP-?e=XRqdD1
>>>>
>>>> the mist is over the Severn
>>>>
>>>> Surrounded by great roads with the Berwyns, Snowdonia, Cambrian
>>>> Mountains, Shropshire Hills, Radnor Hills and Brecon Beacons all
>>>> nearby.
>>>
>>> Indeed. The local VMCC often stray not far away from there,
>>> particularly if doing the Long Mynd. Though I suspect you had a
>>> different sort of road than the Burway in mind as 'great'. The cafe
at
>>> The Bog up near the Stiperstones is a regular stop.
>>>
>>
>> I did the Burway some time ago on a TDM850. Ended up riding through a
>> ditch on the steep bit as the minibus driver coming down ignored a
>> passing place and refused to reverse.
>>
>> I took the satnav's shortest route from Pontesbury home on the
weekend.
>> It took me over Long Mountain and down Welsh Harp Hollow. That was a
bit
>> of an adventure in the car.
>
> Criggion is another regular point on VMCC runs.
>

I can see Admiral Rod's Pillar from the road in front of the house but
some trees block the view from the terrace at the rear.

Presumably you meed at the Admiral's pub?

On 18/10/2023 18:59, wessie wrote:
> Pete Fisher <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote in news:kpajvaF2de7U1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> On 18/10/2023 18:09, wessie wrote:
>>> Pete Fisher <peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote in
>>> news:kpadleF5gnU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> On 18/10/2023 14:55, wessie wrote:
>>>>> Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in
>>>>> news:dglvii9s7ar4f47i9341314d8fi8kq0nbi@ 4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 18:04:01 -0000 (UTC), wessie
>>>>>> <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, and I have moved to Wales.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whereabout?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was at Angelsey Circuit last month, and I'll be near Conwy again
>>>>>> at the end of Oct
>>>>>
>>>>> Welshpool, where two of my siblings have lived for decades.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the hill overlooking the town & River Severn to Long Mountain
>>>>>
>>>>> view from my bedroom
>>>>>
>>>>> https://1drv.ms/i/s!AvGiADP7dAX69Q6pvgWeCS1sqAP-?e=XRqdD1
>>>>>
>>>>> the mist is over the Severn
>>>>>
>>>>> Surrounded by great roads with the Berwyns, Snowdonia, Cambrian
>>>>> Mountains, Shropshire Hills, Radnor Hills and Brecon Beacons all
>>>>> nearby.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. The local VMCC often stray not far away from there,
>>>> particularly if doing the Long Mynd. Though I suspect you had a
>>>> different sort of road than the Burway in mind as 'great'. The cafe
> at
>>>> The Bog up near the Stiperstones is a regular stop.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I did the Burway some time ago on a TDM850. Ended up riding through a
>>> ditch on the steep bit as the minibus driver coming down ignored a
>>> passing place and refused to reverse.
>>>
>>> I took the satnav's shortest route from Pontesbury home on the
> weekend.
>>> It took me over Long Mountain and down Welsh Harp Hollow. That was a
> bit
>>> of an adventure in the car.
>>
>> Criggion is another regular point on VMCC runs.
>>
>
> I can see Admiral Rod's Pillar from the road in front of the house but
> some trees block the view from the terrace at the rear.
>
> Presumably you meed at the Admiral's pub?

No, but usually one run of the year goes up there. Last time it was on
the way from lunch at the Royal Hill Edgerley back to Bridgnorth via The
Bog for afternoon tea.
--
Moto Morini 2C/375
Gilera 175 Sport, Husqvarna 401 Svartpilen
Honda CB250RS (Not Waynetta!)
"Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in the reality"

wessie wrote:
> Oh, and I have moved to Wales.
> Welshpool, where two of my siblings have lived for decades.
>
> Surrounded by great roads with the Berwyns, Snowdonia, Cambrian Mountains,
> Shropshire Hills, Radnor Hills and Brecon Beacons all nearby.

Big up the A483 posse. Last time I turned left off the Newtown bypass I had to stop and warn the mrs she might be about to get queasy.

ogden <eldaifo@gmail.com> wrote in
news:22da2ddd-9c3c-4945-bb4e-805e37a9dac4n@googlegroups.com:

> wessie wrote:
>> Oh, and I have moved to Wales.
>> Welshpool, where two of my siblings have lived for decades.
>>
>> Surrounded by great roads with the Berwyns, Snowdonia, Cambrian
>> Mountains, Shropshire Hills, Radnor Hills and Brecon Beacons all
>> nearby.
>
> Big up the A483 posse. Last time I turned left off the Newtown bypass
> I had to stop and warn the mrs she might be about to get queasy.
>
>

last time I went down there a couple of months ago with Scraggy, we caught
up with a Danish tourist in a car that did not seem to understand the
concept of corners. On the very twisty bit just after the Dolfor turning.

It was quite funny, as well as frustrating as we could not get by it for a
few miles.

On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 03:34:43 -0700 (PDT), ogden <eldaifo@gmail.com>
wrote:

>wessie wrote:
>> Oh, and I have moved to Wales.
>> Welshpool, where two of my siblings have lived for decades.
>>
>> Surrounded by great roads with the Berwyns, Snowdonia, Cambrian Mountains,
>> Shropshire Hills, Radnor Hills and Brecon Beacons all nearby.
>
>Big up the A483 posse. Last time I turned left off the Newtown bypass I had to stop and warn the mrs she might be about to get queasy.

The part south if Dolfor is epic :)
--
Mark Roberts

Mark Roberts wrote:
> ogden wrote:
> >Big up the A483 posse. Last time I turned left off the Newtown bypass I had to stop and warn the mrs she might be about to get queasy.
>
> The part south if Dolfor is epic :)

From the direction I approach, that is the left turn off the bypass.

On 19/10/2023 14:20, wessie wrote:
> ogden <eldaifo@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:22da2ddd-9c3c-4945-bb4e-805e37a9dac4n@googlegroups.com:
>
>> wessie wrote:
>>> Oh, and I have moved to Wales.
>>> Welshpool, where two of my siblings have lived for decades.
>>>
>>> Surrounded by great roads with the Berwyns, Snowdonia, Cambrian
>>> Mountains, Shropshire Hills, Radnor Hills and Brecon Beacons all
>>> nearby.
>>
>> Big up the A483 posse. Last time I turned left off the Newtown bypass
>> I had to stop and warn the mrs she might be about to get queasy.
>>
>>
>
> last time I went down there a couple of months ago with Scraggy, we caught
> up with a Danish tourist in a car that did not seem to understand the
> concept of corners. On the very twisty bit just after the Dolfor turning.
>
> It was quite funny, as well as frustrating as we could not get by it for a
> few miles.
>
Coing back from a short stayaway on monday I saw a van parked in a field
entrance on a double-bend whose driver also didn't seem to understand
corners - driver-side door ripped off, nicely adjusted and
decorated-with-foliage driver-side elevation, back doors tied together
'cos back elevation had become rhomboid, all festooned with'Police
Aware' streamers.

The road was one-track, bordered with ditches, hedges, narrow strips of
bank, and it snaked. Not even a drag-artist (not Lily Savage AKA Paul
O'Grady) could have reached more than 20mph before braking, anywhere
near there...

But I was luckier on the delaying detail.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 13:55:33 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

>>>Oh, and I have moved to Wales.
>> Whereabout?

>Welshpool, where two of my siblings have lived for decades.
>
>On the hill overlooking the town & River Severn to Long Mountain

Butbutbut - Welshpool is miles from the Severn!
<checks map>
Oh
The Severn is really quite a long river, isn't it :-)

--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:59:26 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

>I can see Admiral Rod's Pillar from the road in front of the house

fnarr fnarr
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old