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* We solder, the Americans sodder!Mike McMillan
+* We solder, the Americans sodder!J. P. Gilliver
|`* We solder, the Americans sodder!John Armstrong
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| |`* We solder, the Americans sodder!Vicky
| | `* We solder, the Americans sodder!Nick Odell
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|  |`* We solder, the Americans sodder!Mike McMillan
|  | `* We solder, the Americans sodder!J. P. Gilliver
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|    `- We solder, the Americans sodder!Paul Herber
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|`- We solder, the Americans sodder!Chris J Dixon
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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:36 UTC

In message <ujgd0u$emnj$1@dont-email.me> at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:45:33,
Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> writes
>On 20/11/2023 09:59, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>
>> The US pronunciation that bugs me most is the voiced embedded t - so
>>that water and writer come out as warder and rider. It's weird, as
>>they can pronounce the letter t fine if it's at the beginning or end
>>of a word, only not if it's in the middle, and I'm pretty ("priddy")
>>sure they don't know they're doing it.
>
>Which doesn't explain the idiot of a waiter who started offering me
>Budweiser, Coors Light and almost anything else you can think off until
>I described what I actually wanted. After that I decided to refer to at
>as whaddah as the locals bizarrely did.
>
He would, of course, have been a wader.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

While no one was paying attention, weather reports became accurate and the
news became fiction. Did not see that coming. - Scott Adams, 2015

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 by: Mike McMillan - Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:56 UTC

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <ujgd0u$emnj$1@dont-email.me> at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:45:33,
> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> writes
>> On 20/11/2023 09:59, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>
>>> The US pronunciation that bugs me most is the voiced embedded t - so
>>> that water and writer come out as warder and rider. It's weird, as
>>> they can pronounce the letter t fine if it's at the beginning or end
>>> of a word, only not if it's in the middle, and I'm pretty ("priddy")
>>> sure they don't know they're doing it.
>>
>> Which doesn't explain the idiot of a waiter who started offering me
>> Budweiser, Coors Light and almost anything else you can think off until
>> I described what I actually wanted. After that I decided to refer to at
>> as whaddah as the locals bizarrely did.
>>
> He would, of course, have been a wader.

Would that make a waitress a ‘Wader Bird’?

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:32 UTC

In message <ujgkml$g1ol$1@dont-email.me> at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:56:37,
Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
>J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>> In message <ujgd0u$emnj$1@dont-email.me> at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:45:33,
>> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> writes
[]
>>> Which doesn't explain the idiot of a waiter who started offering me
>>> Budweiser, Coors Light and almost anything else you can think off until
>>> I described what I actually wanted. After that I decided to refer to at
>>> as whaddah as the locals bizarrely did.
>>>
>> He would, of course, have been a wader.
>
>Would that make a waitress a ‘Wader Bird’?
>
(-:

Probably a way-dress. Though I'm not sure if they use the term; possibly
PC-ness would call her a wader too.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

science is not intended to be foolproof. Science is about crawling toward the
truth over time. - Scott Adams, 2015-2-2

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 by: Joe Kerr - Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:09 UTC

On 21/11/2023 10:32, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <ujgkml$g1ol$1@dont-email.me> at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:56:37,
> Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <ujgd0u$emnj$1@dont-email.me> at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:45:33,
>>> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> writes
> []
>>>> Which doesn't explain the idiot of a waiter who started offering me
>>>> Budweiser, Coors Light and almost anything else you can think off until
>>>> I described what I actually wanted. After that I decided to refer to at
>>>> as whaddah as the locals bizarrely did.
>>>>
>>> He would, of course, have been a wader.
>>
>> Would that make a waitress a ‘Wader Bird’?
>>
> (-:
>
> Probably a way-dress. Though I'm not sure if they use the term; possibly
> PC-ness would call her a wader too.

Normally a server. Derogitorily a waitron.

--
Ric

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 by: Paul Herber - Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:00 UTC

On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:19:27 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com>
wrote:

>Clive Arthur <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 19/11/2023 19:22, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 19-Nov-23 9:18, John Armstrong wrote:
>>>> On 18/11/2023 14:36, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>>>> In message <uja6pt$39r6g$1@dont-email.me> at Sat, 18 Nov 2023
>>>>> 11:22:37, Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes
>>>>>> Yet another very irritating Amercanism; I notice in any Merkin YouTube
>>>>>> presentation involving electrical components, they are incapable of
>>>>>> pronouncing the word ‘solder’; there must be a very larger number of
>>>>>> sods
>>>>>> in the USA! Harrumph!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think they still _spell_ it with the l, though I'm not sure about
>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>> When it came up recently with American cousins, they didn't know what
>>>>> I was talking about, and were trying to understand where the soldiers
>>>>> came in.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I find it very annoying too. I'm fairly certain they spell it
>>>> "solder".  Apparently, their "reason" for saying "sodder" is that it
>>>> comes from the French word "souder".
>>>
>>> When you have settled that one, ask an American to pronounce "buoy".
>>
>> Soddering a booie would get you banged up in the US, in much the same
>> ways as muffin' the mule would here.
>>
>
>You trying to make an Ass of me?!?

Someone's got to do the donkey work.

--
Regards, Paul Herber
https://www.paulherber.co.uk/

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 by: Nick Odell - Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:27 UTC

On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:45:33 +0000, Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com>
wrote:

>On 20/11/2023 09:59, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>
>> The US pronunciation that bugs me most is the voiced embedded t - so
>> that water and writer come out as warder and rider. It's weird, as they
>> can pronounce the letter t fine if it's at the beginning or end of a
>> word, only not if it's in the middle, and I'm pretty ("priddy") sure
>> they don't know they're doing it.
>
>Which doesn't explain the idiot of a waiter who started offering me
>Budweiser, Coors Light and almost anything else you can think off until
>I described what I actually wanted. After that I decided to refer to at
>as whaddah as the locals bizarrely did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yFTOvO0utY

N.

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 by: Clive Arthur - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 11:54 UTC

On 18/11/2023 11:22, Mike McMillan wrote:
> Yet another very irritating Amercanism; I notice in any Merkin YouTube
> presentation involving electrical components, they are incapable of
> pronouncing the word ‘solder’; there must be a very larger number of sods
> in the USA! Harrumph!

Do you prefer the more modern higher temperature lead-free type, or the
odder codder sodder?

Mine dew, "all, ball, call, fall gall, hall, pall, tall, wall".

And mall. Do Specsavers remove planks?

--
Cheers
Clive

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From: chris@cdixon.me.uk (Chris J Dixon)
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Subject: Re: We solder, the Americans sodder!
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2023 14:11:52 +0000
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 by: Chris J Dixon - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 14:11 UTC

Clive Arthur wrote:

>On 18/11/2023 11:22, Mike McMillan wrote:
>> Yet another very irritating Amercanism; I notice in any Merkin YouTube
>> presentation involving electrical components, they are incapable of
>> pronouncing the word ‘solder’; there must be a very larger number of sods
>> in the USA! Harrumph!
>
>Do you prefer the more modern higher temperature lead-free type, or the
>odder codder sodder?
>
>Mine dew, "all, ball, call, fall gall, hall, pall, tall, wall".
>
>And mall. Do Specsavers remove planks?

Only beams!

Chris
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From: rcmitchell@golgonooza.co.uk (Rosie Mitchell)
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 by: Rosie Mitchell - Fri, 24 Nov 2023 18:34 UTC

Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes:

> Yet another very irritating Amercanism; I notice in any Merkin YouTube
> presentation involving electrical components, they are incapable of
> pronouncing the word ‘solder’; there must be a very larger number of sods
> in the USA! Harrumph!

Tell them to sold off.

Rosie

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