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Re: Smart meters and pedantry

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From: wenlock.house@googlemail.com (Wenlock)
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by: Wenlock - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 07:25 UTC

Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 15:58:13 -0000 (UTC), Wenlock
> <wenlock.house@googlemail.com> scrawled in the dust...
>
>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Kranj, kranj, ljubliche kranj! (Phonetically, from memory.)
>>>>
>>
>> ?????, ?????, ???????????? ?????.
>>
>> (Does USENET do Cyrillic?)
>
> No (not on my screen), is that the Russian version?

It is the Russian version, or at least, it was when I left it.

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From: toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com (Mike McMillan)
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by: Mike McMillan - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 09:07 UTC

Wenlock <wenlock.house@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 15:58:13 -0000 (UTC), Wenlock
>> <wenlock.house@googlemail.com> scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Kranj, kranj, ljubliche kranj! (Phonetically, from memory.)
>>>>>
>>>
>>> ?????, ?????, ???????????? ?????.
>>>
>>> (Does USENET do Cyrillic?)
>>
>> No (not on my screen), is that the Russian version?
>
> It is the Russian version, or at least, it was when I left it.
>
>

Putin the right place, it would be then?

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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by: Mike McMillan - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 09:10 UTC

Putin the right place, it would be then?

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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From: spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com (Penny)
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by: Penny - Tue, 28 Nov 2023 01:39 UTC

On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 17:55:26 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

>In message <ujvsn2$3b3pi$1@dont-email.me> at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 16:45:22,
>John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> writes
>>On 26/11/2023 15:58, Wenlock wrote:
>>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Kranj, kranj, ljubliche kranj! (Phonetically, from memory.)
>>>>>
>>> 0 >> (Does USENET do Cyrillic?)
>>>
>>
>>It does here.
>>
>>john
>I see that line as
>" , ,"

For me it shows as
?????, ?????, ???????????? ?????.

--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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by: krw - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 13:06 UTC

On the subject of Smart meters I have this morning had a phone call from
Ovo (other suppliers are available) which commenced with the obligatory
warning that all calls are recorded for training purposes (or similar).

The caller wished to advise me that to aid my journey to net zero he had
engineers in my area installing smart meters.

I asked him how a new meter would aid my personal journey to net zero
and he started blathering about the additional information on
consumption would enable Ovo to plan energy purchasing to minimise prices.

So I asked him to stop talking about Ovo and explain how it would aid my
personal journey to net zero as per his earlier statement.

He suggested that the meters would tell me when I was consuming
additional energy that I did not need to consume. I pointed out that
the meters could not tell what was consuming the energy and so whilst I
might know what the consumption was there was no way of knowing what was
undertaking the consumption.

After a couple of minutes of this he decided he had had enough.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

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by: Sam Plusnet - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 19:12 UTC

On 29-Nov-23 13:06, krw wrote:
> On the subject of Smart meters I have this morning had a phone call from
> Ovo (other suppliers are available) which commenced with the obligatory
> warning that all calls are recorded for training purposes (or similar).
>
> The caller wished to advise me that to aid my journey to net zero he had
> engineers in my area installing smart meters.
>
> I asked him how a new meter would aid my personal journey to net zero
> and he started blathering about the additional information on
> consumption would enable Ovo to plan energy purchasing to minimise prices.
>
> So I asked him to stop talking about Ovo and explain how it would aid my
> personal journey to net zero as per his earlier statement.
>
> He suggested that the meters would tell me when I was consuming
> additional energy that I did not need to consume. I pointed out that
> the meters could not tell what was consuming the energy and so whilst I
> might know what the consumption was there was no way of knowing what was
> undertaking the consumption.
>
> After a couple of minutes of this he decided he had had enough.

"calls are recorded for training purposes"

Shouldn't they offer you some recompense for your assistance in training
their employees?

--
Sam Plusnet

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by: Tony Smith - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 20:54 UTC

On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 at 11:48:53 UTC, Penny wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 17:55:26 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6...@255soft.uk>
> scrawled in the dust...
> >In message <ujvsn2$3b3pi$1...@dont-email.me> at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 16:45:22,
> >John Ashby <johna...@yahoo.com> writes
> >>On 26/11/2023 15:58, Wenlock wrote:
> >>> J. P. Gilliver <G6...@255soft.uk> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Kranj, kranj, ljubliche kranj! (Phonetically, from memory.)
> >>>>>
> >>> 0 >> (Does USENET do Cyrillic?)
> >>>
> >>
> >>It does here.
> >>
> >>john
> >I see that line as
> >" , ,"
> For me it shows as
> ?????, ?????, ???????????? ?????.
> --
> Penny
> Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

It displayed correctly for me.

But, what is "Kranj"? There is a town of that name in Slovenia, but they don't use Cyrillic in Slovenia any more than we do.

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by: Penny - Wed, 29 Nov 2023 13:20 UTC

On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 12:54:50 -0800 (PST), Tony Smith
<agsmith578688@gmail.com> scrawled in the dust...

>On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 at 11:48:53 UTC, Penny wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 17:55:26 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6...@255soft.uk>
>> scrawled in the dust...
>> >In message <ujvsn2$3b3pi$1...@dont-email.me> at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 16:45:22,
>> >John Ashby <johna...@yahoo.com> writes
>> >>On 26/11/2023 15:58, Wenlock wrote:
>> >>> J. P. Gilliver <G6...@255soft.uk> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Kranj, kranj, ljubliche kranj! (Phonetically, from memory.)
>> >>>>>
>> >>> 0 >> (Does USENET do Cyrillic?)
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>It does here.
>> >>
>> >>john
>> >I see that line as
>> >" , ,"
>> For me it shows as
>> ?????, ?????, ???????????? ?????.
>> --
>> Penny
>> Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
>
>It displayed correctly for me.
>
>But, what is "Kranj"? There is a town of that name in Slovenia, but they don't use Cyrillic in Slovenia any more than we do.

From the context, it must be 'mud'.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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by: J. P. Gilliver - Fri, 1 Dec 2023 00:55 UTC

In message <cjeemipr6i8aam3v2lelh9opvi9utuqjpt@4ax.com> at Wed, 29 Nov
2023 13:20:23, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
>On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 12:54:50 -0800 (PST), Tony Smith
><agsmith578688@gmail.com> scrawled in the dust...
>
>>On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 at 11:48:53 UTC, Penny wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 17:55:26 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6...@255soft.uk>
>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>> >In message <ujvsn2$3b3pi$1...@dont-email.me> at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 16:45:22,
>>> >John Ashby <johna...@yahoo.com> writes
>>> >>On 26/11/2023 15:58, Wenlock wrote:
>>> >>> J. P. Gilliver <G6...@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Kranj, kranj, ljubliche kranj! (Phonetically, from memory.)
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>> 0 >> (Does USENET do Cyrillic?)
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>It does here.
>>> >>
>>> >>john
>>> >I see that line as
>>> >" , ,"
>>> For me it shows as
>>> ?????, ?????, ???????????? ?????.
>>> --
>>> Penny
>>> Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
>>
>>It displayed correctly for me.
>>
>>But, what is "Kranj"? There is a town of that name in Slovenia, but
>>they don't use Cyrillic in Slovenia any more than we do.
>
>From the context, it must be 'mud'.

Yes, I think so. In some of the recordings, Swann sings a verse in
Russian, and the above was my poor memory phonetic attempt to reproduce
what he sings. (I recently found one of those recordings, and my attempt
wasn't very good.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I hope you dream a pig.

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by: Wenlock - Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:41 UTC

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <cjeemipr6i8aam3v2lelh9opvi9utuqjpt@4ax.com> at Wed, 29 Nov
> 2023 13:20:23, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes
>> On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 12:54:50 -0800 (PST), Tony Smith
>> <agsmith578688@gmail.com> scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>> On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 at 11:48:53 UTC, Penny wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 17:55:26 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6...@255soft.uk>
>>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>>>> In message <ujvsn2$3b3pi$1...@dont-email.me> at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 16:45:22,
>>>>> John Ashby <johna...@yahoo.com> writes
>>>>>> On 26/11/2023 15:58, Wenlock wrote:
>>>>>>> J. P. Gilliver <G6...@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kranj, kranj, ljubliche kranj! (Phonetically, from memory.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 0 >> (Does USENET do Cyrillic?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> john
>>>>> I see that line as
>>>>> " , ,"
>>>> For me it shows as
>>>> ?????, ?????, ???????????? ?????.
>>>> --
>>>> Penny
>>>> Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
>>>
>>> It displayed correctly for me.
>>>
>>> But, what is "Kranj"? There is a town of that name in Slovenia, but
>>> they don't use Cyrillic in Slovenia any more than we do.
>>
>> From the context, it must be 'mud'.
>
> Yes, I think so. In some of the recordings, Swann sings a verse in
> Russian, and the above was my poor memory phonetic attempt to reproduce
> what he sings. (I recently found one of those recordings, and my attempt
> wasn't very good.)

It’s “grjaz” (грязь in Cyrillic) and means mud or filth. There’s a Russian
crime comedy film of that name that was released as “Filth” in the
Anglophone version.

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by: Rosie Mitchell - Fri, 1 Dec 2023 18:07 UTC

Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes:

> On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 12:54:50 -0800 (PST), Tony Smith
> <agsmith578688@gmail.com> scrawled in the dust...
>
>>On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 at 11:48:53 UTC, Penny wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 17:55:26 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6...@255soft.uk>
>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>> >In message <ujvsn2$3b3pi$1...@dont-email.me> at Sun, 26 Nov 2023 16:45:22,
>>> >John Ashby <johna...@yahoo.com> writes
>>> >>On 26/11/2023 15:58, Wenlock wrote:
>>> >>> J. P. Gilliver <G6...@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Kranj, kranj, ljubliche kranj! (Phonetically, from memory.)
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>> 0 >> (Does USENET do Cyrillic?)
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>It does here.
>>> >>
>>> >>john
>>> >I see that line as
>>> >" , ,"
>>> For me it shows as
>>> ?????, ?????, ???????????? ?????.
>>> --
>>> Penny
>>> Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
>>
>>It displayed correctly for me.
>>
>>But, what is "Kranj"? There is a town of that name in Slovenia, but they don't use Cyrillic in Slovenia any more than we do.
>
> From the context, it must be 'mud'.

Reference to Google Translate suggests that 'kranj' is Slovenian for
cranium, which makes a sort of sense, but it doesn't seem too
convinced since inverting the translation gives 'lobanja' for
cranium. Maybe kranj is colloquial Slovenian. You do have to wonder how
many Slovenian advisers Google has.

Rosie

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by: Wenlock - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 17:52 UTC

It’s “grjaz” (грязь in Cyrillic) and means mud or filth. There’s a Russian
crime comedy film of that name that was released as “Filth” in the
Anglophone version.

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