I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.

On 7.12.23 14:11, Tony Smith wrote:
> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.

Good luck. Pip seems stoned regularly these days.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

In message <17406e52-d632-4381-84ae-43546c4802ben@googlegroups.com> at
Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:11:36, Tony Smith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once before
>and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen window sill
>but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.

Label it this time (-:

(Actually not a bad idea - you can note date of starting, and such; you
may think now you'll remember, but ...)

I've little idea what a persimmon is. (I wondered if this might be a
post about young Ms. Archer, as you capitalised it!)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The first draft was "flick me all over with ..." (RT Chtr 2020)

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <17406e52-d632-4381-84ae-43546c4802ben@googlegroups.com> at
> Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:11:36, Tony Smith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once before
>> and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen window sill
>> but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>
> Label it this time (-:
>
> (Actually not a bad idea - you can note date of starting, and such; you
> may think now you'll remember, but ...)
>
> I've little idea what a persimmon is. (I wondered if this might be a
> post about young Ms. Archer, as you capitalised it!)

Back in the summer, I had a ginger root that I attacked with the grater a
few times when cooking; I happened to notice there was a green shoot
appearing from a nodule of the root. The shoot continued to grow - and
grow, so I broke off the nodule and planted it up. Mr. Ginger grew quite
tall and eventually had 8 or 9 leaves but come the darker days of late
autumn, it withered … Mrs. McToodles gave it to the compost bin earlier
this week.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On 07-Dec-23 15:28, Mike McMillan wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>> In message <17406e52-d632-4381-84ae-43546c4802ben@googlegroups.com> at
>> Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:11:36, Tony Smith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>>> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once before
>>> and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen window sill
>>> but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>>
>> Label it this time (-:
>>
>> (Actually not a bad idea - you can note date of starting, and such; you
>> may think now you'll remember, but ...)
>>
>> I've little idea what a persimmon is. (I wondered if this might be a
>> post about young Ms. Archer, as you capitalised it!)
>
> Back in the summer, I had a ginger root that I attacked with the grater a
> few times when cooking; I happened to notice there was a green shoot
> appearing from a nodule of the root. The shoot continued to grow - and
> grow, so I broke off the nodule and planted it up. Mr. Ginger grew quite
> tall and eventually had 8 or 9 leaves but come the darker days of late
> autumn, it withered … Mrs. McToodles gave it to the compost bin earlier
> this week.

It's quite easy to grow ginger.
For best results, move to the tropics.

--
Sam Plusnet

Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
> On 07-Dec-23 15:28, Mike McMillan wrote:
>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <17406e52-d632-4381-84ae-43546c4802ben@googlegroups.com> at
>>> Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:11:36, Tony Smith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>>>> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once before
>>>> and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen window sill
>>>> but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>>>
>>> Label it this time (-:
>>>
>>> (Actually not a bad idea - you can note date of starting, and such; you
>>> may think now you'll remember, but ...)
>>>
>>> I've little idea what a persimmon is. (I wondered if this might be a
>>> post about young Ms. Archer, as you capitalised it!)
>>
>> Back in the summer, I had a ginger root that I attacked with the grater a
>> few times when cooking; I happened to notice there was a green shoot
>> appearing from a nodule of the root. The shoot continued to grow - and
>> grow, so I broke off the nodule and planted it up. Mr. Ginger grew quite
>> tall and eventually had 8 or 9 leaves but come the darker days of late
>> autumn, it withered … Mrs. McToodles gave it to the compost bin earlier
>> this week.
>
> It's quite easy to grow ginger.
> For best results, move to the tropics.
>
Could you allow a little bit of latitude in that requirement?

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
> On 07-Dec-23 15:28, Mike McMillan wrote:
>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <17406e52-d632-4381-84ae-43546c4802ben@googlegroups.com> at
>>> Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:11:36, Tony Smith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>>>> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once before
>>>> and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen window sill
>>>> but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>>>
>>> Label it this time (-:
>>>
>>> (Actually not a bad idea - you can note date of starting, and such; you
>>> may think now you'll remember, but ...)
>>>
>>> I've little idea what a persimmon is. (I wondered if this might be a
>>> post about young Ms. Archer, as you capitalised it!)
>>
>> Back in the summer, I had a ginger root that I attacked with the grater a
>> few times when cooking; I happened to notice there was a green shoot
>> appearing from a nodule of the root. The shoot continued to grow - and
>> grow, so I broke off the nodule and planted it up. Mr. Ginger grew quite
>> tall and eventually had 8 or 9 leaves but come the darker days of late
>> autumn, it withered … Mrs. McToodles gave it to the compost bin earlier
>> this week.
>
> It's quite easy to grow ginger.
> For best results, move to the tropics.
>

Could you allow me a little latitude in that requirement?

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes:

> Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>> On 07-Dec-23 15:28, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>> In message <17406e52-d632-4381-84ae-43546c4802ben@googlegroups.com> at
>>>> Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:11:36, Tony Smith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>>>>> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once before
>>>>> and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen window sill
>>>>> but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>>>>
>>>> Label it this time (-:
>>>>
>>>> (Actually not a bad idea - you can note date of starting, and such; you
>>>> may think now you'll remember, but ...)
>>>>
>>>> I've little idea what a persimmon is. (I wondered if this might be a
>>>> post about young Ms. Archer, as you capitalised it!)
>>>
>>> Back in the summer, I had a ginger root that I attacked with the grater a
>>> few times when cooking; I happened to notice there was a green shoot
>>> appearing from a nodule of the root. The shoot continued to grow - and
>>> grow, so I broke off the nodule and planted it up. Mr. Ginger grew quite
>>> tall and eventually had 8 or 9 leaves but come the darker days of late
>>> autumn, it withered … Mrs. McToodles gave it to the compost bin earlier
>>> this week.
>>
>> It's quite easy to grow ginger.
>> For best results, move to the tropics.
>>
> Could you allow a little bit of latitude in that requirement?

I'm sure we could give you a degree or two. Would 23 be enough?

Rosie
BTM elect

Rosie Mitchell <rcmitchell@golgonooza.co.uk> wrote:
> Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> writes:
>
>> Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>> On 07-Dec-23 15:28, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>> In message <17406e52-d632-4381-84ae-43546c4802ben@googlegroups.com> at
>>>>> Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:11:36, Tony Smith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>>>>>> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once before
>>>>>> and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen window sill
>>>>>> but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Label it this time (-:
>>>>>
>>>>> (Actually not a bad idea - you can note date of starting, and such; you
>>>>> may think now you'll remember, but ...)
>>>>>
>>>>> I've little idea what a persimmon is. (I wondered if this might be a
>>>>> post about young Ms. Archer, as you capitalised it!)
>>>>
>>>> Back in the summer, I had a ginger root that I attacked with the grater a
>>>> few times when cooking; I happened to notice there was a green shoot
>>>> appearing from a nodule of the root. The shoot continued to grow - and
>>>> grow, so I broke off the nodule and planted it up. Mr. Ginger grew quite
>>>> tall and eventually had 8 or 9 leaves but come the darker days of late
>>>> autumn, it withered … Mrs. McToodles gave it to the compost bin earlier
>>>> this week.
>>>
>>> It's quite easy to grow ginger.
>>> For best results, move to the tropics.
>>>
>> Could you allow a little bit of latitude in that requirement?
>
> I'm sure we could give you a degree or two. Would 23 be enough?
>
> Rosie
> BTM elect
>

I believe that even Three Degrees would be quite popular.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:28:47 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
<toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> scrawled in the dust...

>Back in the summer, I had a ginger root that I attacked with the grater a
>few times when cooking; I happened to notice there was a green shoot
>appearing from a nodule of the root. The shoot continued to grow - and
>grow, so I broke off the nodule and planted it up. Mr. Ginger grew quite
>tall and eventually had 8 or 9 leaves but come the darker days of late
>autumn, it withered … Mrs. McToodles gave it to the compost bin earlier
>this week.

I grew one in a pot which sat on the boiler for some months and grew rather
well. They have amazing flowers, which was what I was hoping for, but I
probably started it too late in the year.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:28:47 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> scrawled in the dust...
>
>> Back in the summer, I had a ginger root that I attacked with the grater a
>> few times when cooking; I happened to notice there was a green shoot
>> appearing from a nodule of the root. The shoot continued to grow - and
>> grow, so I broke off the nodule and planted it up. Mr. Ginger grew quite
>> tall and eventually had 8 or 9 leaves but come the darker days of late
>> autumn, it withered … Mrs. McToodles gave it to the compost bin earlier
>> this week.
>
> I grew one in a pot which sat on the boiler for some months and grew rather
> well. They have amazing flowers, which was what I was hoping for, but I
> probably started it too late in the year.

Round ‘ere, they build ‘ouses.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On Thursday 7 December 2023 at 14:11:37 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.

Now planted.

In message <5c3a4e18-bfce-4849-9c98-7588813e583bn@googlegroups.com> at
Wed, 13 Dec 2023 12:22:41, Tony Smith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>On Thursday 7 December 2023 at 14:11:37 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once
>>before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen
>>window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>
>Now planted.

And herself told, I hope (-:
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Her [Valerie Singleton's] main job on /Blue Peter/ was to stop unpredictable
creatres running amok. And that was just John Noakes.
- Alison Pearson, RT 2014/9/6-12

On Wednesday 13 December 2023 at 20:22:43 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
> On Thursday 7 December 2023 at 14:11:37 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
> > I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
> Now planted.

A month, and no signs of germination.

On 13-Jan-24 14:33, Tony Smith wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 December 2023 at 20:22:43 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>> On Thursday 7 December 2023 at 14:11:37 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>> Now planted.
>
> A month, and no signs of germination.

Don't you have to stick them in the freezer or somesuch?
Plenty of suggestions via google.

--
Sam Plusnet

Tony Smith wrote:

> On Wednesday 13 December 2023 at 20:22:43 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>> On Thursday 7 December 2023 at 14:11:37 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>> > I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>> Now planted.

> A month, and no signs of germination.

A shoot!

In message <32031dd109af50b8b0750154e9133acd@www.novabbs.com> at Tue, 23
Jan 2024 10:52:30, tonysmith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>Tony Smith wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday 13 December 2023 at 20:22:43 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>> On Thursday 7 December 2023 at 14:11:37 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>> > I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once
>>> >before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen
>>> >window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>>> Now planted.
>
>> A month, and no signs of germination.
>
>A shoot!

A score!

No, I'm glad it is alive! (Not that I have much idea what a persimmon
is. Don't tell me - I could look.) It's pleasing when a plant shows life
after a long period of apparent inactivity; I feel it every year when my
hippeastrum (amaryllis) puts outs its ridiculous flower stalk, followed
by its healthy leaf pairs, when they've usually died off a few months
previously. (This year one leaf has - so far - remained green and fairly
healthy, though the very tip has yellowed so I think it's going to go.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it is too
dark to read." - Groucho Marx

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:38:38 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
<G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>No, I'm glad it is alive! (Not that I have much idea what a persimmon

Nor have I but I've got a 3 pack on order for delivery from Tescos
tomorrow to find out. They are apparently very healthy
https://www.healthifyme.com/blog/persimmon-benefits/#:~:text=It%20is%20better%20not%20to%20eat%20more%20than%20one%20persimmon,nausea%2C%20vomiting%2C%20or%20constipation.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:38:38 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
<G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>In message <32031dd109af50b8b0750154e9133acd@www.novabbs.com> at Tue, 23
>Jan 2024 10:52:30, tonysmith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>>Tony Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday 13 December 2023 at 20:22:43 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>>> On Thursday 7 December 2023 at 14:11:37 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>>> > I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once
>>>> >before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen
>>>> >window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>>>> Now planted.
>>
>>> A month, and no signs of germination.
>>
>>A shoot!
>
>A score!
>
A Derby winner in 1896!!

Nick

On 23/01/2024 14:38, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
It's pleasing when a plant shows life
> after a long period of apparent inactivity; I feel it every year when my
> hippeastrum (amaryllis) puts outs its ridiculous flower stalk, followed
> by its healthy leaf pairs, when they've usually died off a few months
> previously. (This year one leaf has - so far - remained green and fairly
> healthy, though the very tip has yellowed so I think it's going to go.)

Good to know you are guardian of a hippeastrum, too, Jpeg. I *adore*
them and have numerous. Several of them have flowered indoors, some for
several seasons and I had 4 outdoor flowers this year. Also have
several babies which haven't reached flowering age yet.

My dear brother Gervase died last year and my sister-in-law is the
delighted owner of a hippeastrum "Gervase." I plan to get one this year.

--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

In message <l1ap9lFt4ncU2@mid.individual.net> at Tue, 23 Jan 2024
21:27:16, Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> writes
>On 23/01/2024 14:38, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> It's pleasing when a plant shows life
>> after a long period of apparent inactivity; I feel it every year when
>>my hippeastrum (amaryllis) puts outs its ridiculous flower stalk,
>>followed by its healthy leaf pairs, when they've usually died off a
>>few months previously. (This year one leaf has - so far - remained
>>green and fairly healthy, though the very tip has yellowed so I think
>>it's going to go.)
>
>Good to know you are guardian of a hippeastrum, too, Jpeg. I *adore*

Someone gave me the big bulb, in its cardboard presentation box labelled
amaryllis, some years ago; I didn't get round to potting it for a few
months, then did, as per the instructions; I gave it more compost I
think the second year, but no more since: I just give it the dregs when
I rinse the mug I drink (coffee, fruit juice) from, and it seems to be
happy with that (plus whatever it fixes by photosynthesis from the
leaves during the year).

It has put up that ridiculous stalk - grows unbelievably fast, about an
inch a day until about two feet tall - usually somewhere February to
April - every year but one (2022 I think), which then produces those
four ridiculous red flowers: I always think they represent those Tannoy
speaker stacks you used to see at village fetes and the like. I think it
put up two spikes (thus eight flowers) the first year. Once the flowers
(and spike) have gone, it puts out about four pairs of healthy leaves;
despite instructions I don't remove those until they shrivel (and I
leave them until the green has all gone, on the assumption that it's
draining back into the bulb), which they usually do in the autumn. As I
said above, this year one leaf has remained mostly green. (For those
that don't know, the leaves are long and thin - like blades of grass,
but about an inch wide, up to about two feet long (so as they come in
pairs usually, about a yard span), and a bit thicker. Think celery, but
not quite as solid (and darker).

>them and have numerous. Several of them have flowered indoors, some
>for several seasons and I had 4 outdoor flowers this year. Also have
>several babies which haven't reached flowering age yet.

Mine's never been outdoors; it lives on the kitchen draining board most
of the year, but I transfer it to one of my front windows when the spike
starts to appear so my neighbours can see and share the flowers.

I sometimes cross-pollinate it which makes seed balls, but I've never
done anything with them.
>
>My dear brother Gervase died last year and my sister-in-law is the
>delighted owner of a hippeastrum "Gervase." I plan to get one this
>year.
>
Is that the white-flower one?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

There's too much attention paid to how TV can be bad for you, but I think it's
good for us more often than it's bad - Professor Barrie Gunter of Sheffield
University (quoted in RT, 15-21 March 2003).

On 23/01/2024 21:27, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 23/01/2024 14:38, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>  It's pleasing when a plant shows life
>> after a long period of apparent inactivity; I feel it every year when
>> my hippeastrum (amaryllis) puts outs its ridiculous flower stalk,
>> followed by its healthy leaf pairs, when they've usually died off a
>> few months previously. (This year one leaf has - so far - remained
>> green and fairly healthy, though the very tip has yellowed so I think
>> it's going to go.)
>
> Good to know you are guardian of a hippeastrum, too, Jpeg.  I *adore*
> them and have numerous.  Several of them have flowered indoors, some for
>  several seasons and I had 4 outdoor flowers this year.

There were hundreds in our garden in Ceriana. Not planted by us, they
were a relic from when the land was used to grow flowers for the Flower
Market in San Remo.

Looked very weird when they first started poking through like little
snakes and then were a beautiful blue and came back again year after year.

In message <l1bvg1Ft9uvU2@mid.individual.net> at Wed, 24 Jan 2024
08:19:14, BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> writes
[]
>> Good to know you are guardian of a hippeastrum, too, Jpeg.  I
>>*adore* them and have numerous.  Several of them have flowered
>>indoors, some for  several seasons and I had 4 outdoor flowers this
>>year.
>
>There were hundreds in our garden in Ceriana. Not planted by us, they
>were a relic from when the land was used to grow flowers for the Flower
>Market in San Remo.
>
>Looked very weird when they first started poking through like little
>snakes and then were a beautiful blue and came back again year after
>year.
>
Oh, I never knew there were blue ones; the commonest colour here is red,
and I've also seen (or at least seen pictures of, not sure if in real
life) white. Blue (dark or light) would be nice.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Veni, Vidi, Vera (I came, I saw, we'll meet again) - Mik from S+AS Limited
(mik@saslimited.demon.co.uk), 1998

On 24/01/2024 08:26, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <l1bvg1Ft9uvU2@mid.individual.net> at Wed, 24 Jan 2024
> 08:19:14, BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> writes
> []
>>>  Good to know you are guardian of a hippeastrum, too, Jpeg.  I
>>> *adore*  them and have numerous.  Several of them have flowered
>>> indoors, some for    several seasons and I had 4 outdoor flowers this
>>> year.
>>
>> There were hundreds in our garden in Ceriana. Not planted by us, they
>> were a relic from when the land was used to grow flowers for the
>> Flower Market in San Remo.
>>
>> Looked very weird when they first started poking through like little
>> snakes and then were a beautiful blue and came back again year after
>> year.
>>
> Oh, I never knew there were blue ones;

Ah, correction, they were agapanthus which I think is still amyrillis
related.
<https://gardenerspath.com/plants/flowers/grow-agapanthus/#What-Is-Agapanthus>
first picture.

They were very pretty though en masse. We also had lots of inherited
daffodils and a few tulips.

tonysmith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tony Smith wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday 13 December 2023 at 20:22:43 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>> On Thursday 7 December 2023 at 14:11:37 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>>> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once
>>>> before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen
>>>> window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>>> Now planted.
>
>> A month, and no signs of germination.
>
> A shoot!
>

:)