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* Persimmon Pip/StoneTony Smith
+- Persimmon Pip/Stonekrw
+* Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
|`* Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
| +* Persimmon Pip/StoneSam Plusnet
| |+* Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
| ||`* Persimmon Pip/StoneRosie Mitchell
| || `- Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
| |`- Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
| `* Persimmon Pip/StonePenny
|  `- Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
`* Persimmon Pip/StoneTony Smith
 +- Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
 `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneTony Smith
  +- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneSam Plusnet
  `* Re: Persimmon Pip/Stonetonysmith
   +* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   |+- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneVicky
   |+* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneNick Odell
   ||+* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneChris
   |||+* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneVicky
   ||||+- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJoe Kerr
   ||||`- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneRosie Mitchell
   |||`* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneRosie Mitchell
   ||| +* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   ||| |`- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
   ||| `* Re: Persimmon Pip/Stonejohn ashby
   |||  +* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
   |||  |`- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneIain Archer
   |||  +* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJenny M Benson
   |||  |`- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
   |||  `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneChris
   |||   `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
   |||    `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneChris
   |||     `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneBrritSki
   |||      +* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneRosie Mitchell
   |||      |`- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneBrritSki
   |||      `- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneChris
   ||`* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneIain Archer
   || +* Re: Persimmon Pip/Stonetonysmith
   || |+- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
   || |`- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneSam Plusnet
   || `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneTonysmith
   ||  +* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneSam Plusnet
   ||  |`* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   ||  | `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneChris
   ||  |  `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneBrritSki
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   ||  `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJoe Kerr
   ||   `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneWenlock
   ||    `* Re: Persimmon Pip/Stonejohn ashby
   ||     `- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   |+* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJenny M Benson
   ||+* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   |||+- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
   |||`- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJenny M Benson
   ||+* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneBrritSki
   |||+* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   ||||`* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneBrritSki
   |||| +* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJenny M Benson
   |||| |`* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneBrritSki
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   |||| `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   ||||  `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJenny M Benson
   ||||   +- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   ||||   `* Re: Persimmon Pip/Stonenick
   ||||    +* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   ||||    |`* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   ||||    | +* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
   ||||    | |`* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
   ||||    | | `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneVicky
   ||||    | |  `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJim Easterbrook
   ||||    | |   +- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneSam Plusnet
   ||||    | |   +- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneNick Odell
   ||||    | |   +- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneIain Archer
   ||||    | |   `- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneRosie Mitchell
   ||||    | `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StonePenny
   ||||    |  +* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneSam Plusnet
   ||||    |  |+- Re: Persimmon Pip/StonePenny
   ||||    |  |`* Re: Persimmon Pip/Stonekosmo
   ||||    |  | `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
   ||||    |  |  `- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   ||||    |  `- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   ||||    `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneBrritSki
   ||||     `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneNick Odell
   ||||      +* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneSam Plusnet
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   |||`- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJenny M Benson
   ||`* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneChris
   || `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   ||  `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StonePaul Herber
   ||   `- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJ. P. Gilliver
   |`- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneChris
   +- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneChris
   `* Re: Persimmon Pip/Stonetonysmith
    `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneJim Easterbrook
     +- Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneSteveski
     `* Re: Persimmon Pip/StoneMike McMillan
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Re: Persimmon Pip/Stone

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From: toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com (Mike McMillan)
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Subject: Re: Persimmon Pip/Stone
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 by: Mike McMillan - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 10:38 UTC

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <l1ap9lFt4ncU2@mid.individual.net> at Tue, 23 Jan 2024
> 21:27:16, Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> writes
>> On 23/01/2024 14:38, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> It's pleasing when a plant shows life
>>> after a long period of apparent inactivity; I feel it every year when
>>> my hippeastrum (amaryllis) puts outs its ridiculous flower stalk,
>>> followed by its healthy leaf pairs, when they've usually died off a
>>> few months previously. (This year one leaf has - so far - remained
>>> green and fairly healthy, though the very tip has yellowed so I think
>>> it's going to go.)
>>
>> Good to know you are guardian of a hippeastrum, too, Jpeg. I *adore*
>
> Someone gave me the big bulb, in its cardboard presentation box labelled
> amaryllis, some years ago; I didn't get round to potting it for a few
> months, then did, as per the instructions; I gave it more compost I
> think the second year, but no more since: I just give it the dregs when
> I rinse the mug I drink (coffee, fruit juice) from, and it seems to be
> happy with that (plus whatever it fixes by photosynthesis from the
> leaves during the year).
>
> It has put up that ridiculous stalk - grows unbelievably fast, about an
> inch a day until about two feet tall - usually somewhere February to
> April - every year but one (2022 I think), which then produces those
> four ridiculous red flowers: I always think they represent those Tannoy
> speaker stacks you used to see at village fetes and the like. I think it
> put up two spikes (thus eight flowers) the first year. Once the flowers
> (and spike) have gone, it puts out about four pairs of healthy leaves;
> despite instructions I don't remove those until they shrivel (and I
> leave them until the green has all gone, on the assumption that it's
> draining back into the bulb), which they usually do in the autumn. As I
> said above, this year one leaf has remained mostly green. (For those
> that don't know, the leaves are long and thin - like blades of grass,
> but about an inch wide, up to about two feet long (so as they come in
> pairs usually, about a yard span), and a bit thicker. Think celery, but
> not quite as solid (and darker).
>
>> them and have numerous. Several of them have flowered indoors, some
>> for several seasons and I had 4 outdoor flowers this year. Also have
>> several babies which haven't reached flowering age yet.
>
> Mine's never been outdoors; it lives on the kitchen draining board most
> of the year, but I transfer it to one of my front windows when the spike
> starts to appear so my neighbours can see and share the flowers.
>
> I sometimes cross-pollinate it which makes seed balls, but I've never
> done anything with them.
>>
>> My dear brother Gervase died last year and my sister-in-law is the
>> delighted owner of a hippeastrum "Gervase." I plan to get one this
>> year.
>>
> Is that the white-flower one?

Of course, you *HAD* to bring *SEX* into it!

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <32031dd109af50b8b0750154e9133acd@www.novabbs.com> at Tue, 23
> Jan 2024 10:52:30, tonysmith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>> Tony Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday 13 December 2023 at 20:22:43 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>>> On Thursday 7 December 2023 at 14:11:37 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>>>> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once
>>>>> before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen
>>>>> window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>>>> Now planted.
>>
>>> A month, and no signs of germination.
>>
>> A shoot!
>
> A score!
>
> No, I'm glad it is alive! (Not that I have much idea what a persimmon
> is. Don't tell me - I could look.) It's pleasing when a plant shows life
> after a long period of apparent inactivity; I feel it every year when my
> hippeastrum (amaryllis) puts outs its ridiculous flower stalk, followed
> by its healthy leaf pairs, when they've usually died off a few months
> previously. (This year one leaf has - so far - remained green and fairly
> healthy, though the very tip has yellowed so I think it's going to go.)

Jpeg. I dried off my 2022 amaryllis and put it in the shed with my spring
bulbs. Brought it in, watered it, and it’s done what your’s does. Doh!

Mrs McT

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 by: Jenny M Benson - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:17 UTC

On 23/01/2024 21:54, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

>
> Mine's never been outdoors;

The ones I had outdoors (which will go out again later this year) were
sold as "outdoor bulbs." I'm not convinced they are actually any
different to the ones normally sold around Christmas time, which I
suspect have been "trained" to flower early indoors. I will probably
try putting some of my "indoor" ones outside this year.

>>
> Is that the white-flower one?]

No, Gervase is one of the many red & White stripey ones.

--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

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 by: Jenny M Benson - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:18 UTC

On 24/01/2024 08:19, BrritSki wrote:
> There were hundreds in our garden in Ceriana.

Oh, lucky you!
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

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 by: Jenny M Benson - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:19 UTC

On 24/01/2024 09:24, BrritSki wrote:
>
> Ah, correction, they were agapanthus which I think is still amyrillis
> related.
> <https://gardenerspath.com/plants/flowers/grow-agapanthus/#What-Is-Agapanthus> first picture.

Just read this correction. Not so envious, now!
--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 14:51 UTC

In message <l1c3acFt9v1U1@mid.individual.net> at Wed, 24 Jan 2024
09:24:29, BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> writes
>On 24/01/2024 08:26, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> In message <l1bvg1Ft9uvU2@mid.individual.net> at Wed, 24 Jan 2024
>>08:19:14, BrritSki <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> writes
>> []
>>>>  Good to know you are guardian of a hippeastrum, too, Jpeg.  I
>>>>*adore*  them and have numerous.  Several of them have flowered
>>>>indoors, some for    several seasons and I had 4 outdoor flowers this year.
>>>
>>> There were hundreds in our garden in Ceriana. Not planted by us,
>>>they were a relic from when the land was used to grow flowers for
>>>the Flower Market in San Remo.
>>>
>>> Looked very weird when they first started poking through like little
>>>snakes and then were a beautiful blue and came back again year after
>>>year.
>>>
>> Oh, I never knew there were blue ones;
>
>Ah, correction, they were agapanthus which I think is still amyrillis
>related.
><https://gardenerspath.com/plants/flowers/grow-agapanthus/#What-Is-Agapa
>nthus> first picture.
>
>They were very pretty though en masse. We also had lots of inherited
>daffodils and a few tulips.
>
Ah. Very different! At first picture I thought those were like
bluebells, but I can see from lower down they're not quite.

My hippeastrum is more or less
<https://c02.purpledshub.com/uploads/sites/40/2021/12/JI_181220_Hippeastr
um_026-b42b785.jpg> - mine's a deeper red, more like red velvet, but I
suspect that one was too and the photographer just didn't succeed; I've
found flowers - these in particular! - are difficult to capture the
colours of with digital cameras. (When I last had a smartphone, the
camera in that - though nominally a lot more megapixels than my main
camera - was _hopeless_ at capturing flower colours.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Veni Vidi Vacuum [I came, I saw, It sucked] - mik@saslimited.demon.co.uk, 1998

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 by: BrritSki - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 15:21 UTC

On 24/01/2024 11:19, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 24/01/2024 09:24, BrritSki wrote:
>>
>> Ah, correction, they were agapanthus which I think is still amyrillis
>> related.
>> <https://gardenerspath.com/plants/flowers/grow-agapanthus/#What-Is-Agapanthus> first picture.
>
> Just read this correction.  Not so envious, now!

I blame the waife who agreed with me when I said amaryllis. It was only
later when I looked for a pic of a blue one that was very rare that I
realised my mistake. Still very beautiful though...

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 by: Chris - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:10 UTC

Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:38:38 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>> In message <32031dd109af50b8b0750154e9133acd@www.novabbs.com> at Tue, 23
>> Jan 2024 10:52:30, tonysmith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>>> Tony Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday 13 December 2023 at 20:22:43 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday 7 December 2023 at 14:11:37 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>>>>> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once
>>>>>> before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen
>>>>>> window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>>>>> Now planted.
>>>
>>>> A month, and no signs of germination.
>>>
>>> A shoot!
>>
>> A score!
>>
> A Derby winner in 1896!!
>
> Nick
>

A persimmon is a rose by any other name. Sharon fruit is one. The Spanish
call them Kaki fruit (thanks to Vicenta). Kaki can be found in Iceland’s
for about a week a year. If seen, she buys a bag for us.

Mrs McT

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 by: Chris - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:10 UTC

Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 23/01/2024 14:38, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> It's pleasing when a plant shows life
>> after a long period of apparent inactivity; I feel it every year when my
>> hippeastrum (amaryllis) puts outs its ridiculous flower stalk, followed
>> by its healthy leaf pairs, when they've usually died off a few months
>> previously. (This year one leaf has - so far - remained green and fairly
>> healthy, though the very tip has yellowed so I think it's going to go.)
>
> Good to know you are guardian of a hippeastrum, too, Jpeg. I *adore*
> them and have numerous. Several of them have flowered indoors, some for
> several seasons and I had 4 outdoor flowers this year. Also have
> several babies which haven't reached flowering age yet.
>
> My dear brother Gervase died last year and my sister-in-law is the
> delighted owner of a hippeastrum "Gervase." I plan to get one this year.
>

What are ‘we’ doing wring, Jenny?

Mrs McT

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 by: BrritSki - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:51 UTC

On 24/01/2024 15:21, BrritSki wrote:
> On 24/01/2024 11:19, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>> On 24/01/2024 09:24, BrritSki wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah, correction, they were agapanthus which I think is still amyrillis
>>> related.
>>> <https://gardenerspath.com/plants/flowers/grow-agapanthus/#What-Is-Agapanthus> first picture.
>>
>> Just read this correction.  Not so envious, now!
>
> I blame the waife who agreed with me when I said amaryllis. It was only
> later when I looked for a pic of a blue one that was very rare that I
> realised my mistake. Still very beautiful though...

Waife and flowers....

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 19:08 UTC

>Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
[]
>> My dear brother Gervase died last year and my sister-in-law is the
>> delighted owner of a hippeastrum "Gervase." I plan to get one this year.
[]
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 by: Paul Herber - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 22:21 UTC

On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 19:08:15 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>>Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>[]
>>> My dear brother Gervase died last year and my sister-in-law is the
>>> delighted owner of a hippeastrum "Gervase." I plan to get one this year.
>[]
>Whenever I hear the name Gervase, I am reminded of the wordplay about
>the French (I think) and German kitchen staff members.

For Hans who does dishes ...

--
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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 02:18 UTC

In message
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24 Jan 2024 22:21:22, Paul Herber <paul@paulherber.co.uk> writes
>On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 19:08:15 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>>>Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>[]
>>>> My dear brother Gervase died last year and my sister-in-law is the
>>>> delighted owner of a hippeastrum "Gervase." I plan to get one this year.
>>[]
>>Whenever I hear the name Gervase, I am reminded of the wordplay about
>>the French (I think) and German kitchen staff members.
>
>For Hans who does dishes ...
>
>
That's the one! (Though it works better with "do".)
--
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I'd rather trust the guys in the lab coats who aren't demanding that I get up
early on Sundays to apologize for being human.
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 by: Jenny M Benson - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 10:52 UTC

On 24/01/2024 14:51, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> (When I last had a smartphone, the camera in that - though nominally a
> lot more megapixels than my main camera - was _hopeless_ at capturing
> flower colours.)
> --

I chose my current (Samsung) 'phone precisely because it was said to
have a very good camera. Hah! i do a lot of knitting and photograph
all the results - the colours are rarely accurate.

--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

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 by: Vicky - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 11:34 UTC

On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:10:02 -0000 (UTC), Chris
<chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:38:38 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
>> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <32031dd109af50b8b0750154e9133acd@www.novabbs.com> at Tue, 23
>>> Jan 2024 10:52:30, tonysmith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>>>> Tony Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday 13 December 2023 at 20:22:43 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday 7 December 2023 at 14:11:37 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once
>>>>>>> before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen
>>>>>>> window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>>>>>> Now planted.
>>>>
>>>>> A month, and no signs of germination.
>>>>
>>>> A shoot!
>>>
>>> A score!
>>>
>> A Derby winner in 1896!!
>>
>> Nick
>>
>
>A persimmon is a rose by any other name. Sharon fruit is one. The Spanish
>call them Kaki fruit (thanks to Vicenta). Kaki can be found in Iceland’s
>for about a week a year. If seen, she buys a bag for us.
>
>Mrs McT

Our delivery last night from Tescos included 3 persimmons. I've just
eaten one. Googling and the packet said the skin is edible so I just
chilled it in the fridge and sliced it and ate it. The skin is thicker
than an apple or pear and I think I'll peel the other two. I suppose b
might try one but he doesn't eat much fruit. The taste was less sweet
than an apple, pear or peach. They're not huge but one was very
filling. It was sort of more solid than an apple or pear.

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 11:36 UTC

In message <l1esriFpcU2@mid.individual.net> at Thu, 25 Jan 2024
10:52:33, Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> writes
>On 24/01/2024 14:51, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> (When I last had a smartphone, the camera in that - though nominally
>>a lot more megapixels than my main camera - was _hopeless_ at
>>capturing flower colours.)
>> --
>
>I chose my current (Samsung) 'phone precisely because it was said to
>have a very good camera. Hah! i do a lot of knitting and photograph
>all the results - the colours are rarely accurate.
>
"Good" where digital cameras are concerned usually refer to: number of
pixels (far beyond what is needed nowadays); autofocus, zoom, and so on
(probably worth having); and processing tricks, such as face recognition
(again, worth having). Colour accuracy - across a range of subjects,
such as flowers and fabrics - comes well down the scale - and, is hard
to find out about. Ideally, take with when trying out - at least with
your fabrics, you can, not so easy with flowers!; but that's no good if
buying online.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Does Barbie come with Ken?"
"Barbie comes with G.I. Joe. She fakes it with Ken." - anonymous

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 by: nick - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 11:59 UTC

Jenny M Benson wrote:

> On 24/01/2024 14:51, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> (When I last had a smartphone, the camera in that - though nominally a
>> lot more megapixels than my main camera - was _hopeless_ at capturing
>> flower colours.)
>> --

> I chose my current (Samsung) 'phone precisely because it was said to
> have a very good camera. Hah! i do a lot of knitting and photograph
> all the results - the colours are rarely accurate.

If it is a Samsung it is probably deciding which are the best colours for you. It's a full moon tonight. Try taking a phone picture of it then Google for Samsung Phone Moon.

Nick

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:53 UTC

In message <e1bdd9e6fba358dfdb947b0eeeff34fb@www.novabbs.com> at Thu, 25
Jan 2024 11:59:52, nick <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> writes
>Jenny M Benson wrote:
[]
>> I chose my current (Samsung) 'phone precisely because it was said to
>>have a very good camera. Hah! i do a lot of knitting and photograph
>>all the results - the colours are rarely accurate.
>
>If it is a Samsung it is probably deciding which are the best colours
>for you. It's a full moon tonight. Try taking a phone picture of it
>then Google for Samsung Phone Moon.
>
>Nick

That's a fascinating exposé! Samsung turning any photo of something it
thinks is the moon, however blurred, into one with more detail than
could possibly be there.

What's not clear is whether this is an online process - i. e. if you
take the picture when out of range of any network or wifi, does it still
happen: i. e., are the good moon images actually stored in every such
Samsung 'phone?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

.... a series about a grumpy old man who lives in a phone box is unlikely to
have been commissioned these days. 798 episodes later ...

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 by: BrritSki - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:17 UTC

On 25/01/2024 11:59, nick wrote:
> Jenny M Benson wrote:
>
>> On 24/01/2024 14:51, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>> (When I last had a smartphone, the camera in that - though nominally
>>> a lot more megapixels than my main camera - was _hopeless_ at
>>> capturing flower colours.)
>>> --
>
>> I chose my current (Samsung) 'phone precisely because it was said to
>> have a very good camera.  Hah!  i do a lot of knitting and photograph
>> all the results - the colours are rarely accurate.
>
> If it is a Samsung it is probably deciding which are the best colours
> for you. It's a full moon tonight. Try taking a phone picture of it then
> Google for Samsung Phone Moon.
>
Does it show Neil Armstrong with a flag flapping in the "wind"

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 by: Nick Odell - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 00:29 UTC

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:17:31 +0000, BrritSki
<rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 25/01/2024 11:59, nick wrote:
>> Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/01/2024 14:51, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>>> (When I last had a smartphone, the camera in that - though nominally
>>>> a lot more megapixels than my main camera - was _hopeless_ at
>>>> capturing flower colours.)
>>>> --
>>
>>> I chose my current (Samsung) 'phone precisely because it was said to
>>> have a very good camera.  Hah!  i do a lot of knitting and photograph
>>> all the results - the colours are rarely accurate.
>>
>> If it is a Samsung it is probably deciding which are the best colours
>> for you. It's a full moon tonight. Try taking a phone picture of it then
>> Google for Samsung Phone Moon.
>>
>Does it show Neil Armstrong with a flag flapping in the "wind"

Ha! You won't catch me out with that one! We all know those pictures
were posed and taken in a film studio in Hollywood.

Nick

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 01:52 UTC

On 26/01/2024 00:29, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:17:31 +0000, BrritSki
> <rtilburyTAKEOUT@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 25/01/2024 11:59, nick wrote:
>>> Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 24/01/2024 14:51, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>>>> (When I last had a smartphone, the camera in that - though nominally
>>>>> a lot more megapixels than my main camera - was _hopeless_ at
>>>>> capturing flower colours.)
>>>>> --
>>>
>>>> I chose my current (Samsung) 'phone precisely because it was said to
>>>> have a very good camera.  Hah!  i do a lot of knitting and photograph
>>>> all the results - the colours are rarely accurate.
>>>
>>> If it is a Samsung it is probably deciding which are the best colours
>>> for you. It's a full moon tonight. Try taking a phone picture of it then
>>> Google for Samsung Phone Moon.
>>>
>> Does it show Neil Armstrong with a flag flapping in the "wind"
>
> Ha! You won't catch me out with that one! We all know those pictures
> were posed and taken in a film studio in Hollywood.

Using what make of camera?

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 by: J. P. Gilliver - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 09:59 UTC

In message <HO$WxRrMfmslFwPX@255soft.uk> at Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:53:16,
J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes
>In message <e1bdd9e6fba358dfdb947b0eeeff34fb@www.novabbs.com> at Thu,
>25 Jan 2024 11:59:52, nick <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> writes
[]
>>If it is a Samsung it is probably deciding which are the best colours
>>for you. It's a full moon tonight. Try taking a phone picture of it
>>then Google for Samsung Phone Moon.
>>
>>Nick
>
>That's a fascinating exposé! Samsung turning any photo of something it
>thinks is the moon, however blurred, into one with more detail than
>could possibly be there.
[]
I've just come across what looks to be an excellent example:
https://twitter.com/London_W4/status/1750601342475792617
Look carefully at the reflection, then think about it!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

What has happened since 1979, I suspect, is that the spotting of mistakes has
become entirely associated with mean-spiritedness, snobbishness and
judgementalism. But...can be...funny and interesting.
Lynn Truss, RT 2015/2/21-27

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 by: Mike McMillan - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 11:29 UTC

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <HO$WxRrMfmslFwPX@255soft.uk> at Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:53:16,
> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes
>> In message <e1bdd9e6fba358dfdb947b0eeeff34fb@www.novabbs.com> at Thu,
>> 25 Jan 2024 11:59:52, nick <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> writes
> []
>>> If it is a Samsung it is probably deciding which are the best colours
>>> for you. It's a full moon tonight. Try taking a phone picture of it
>>> then Google for Samsung Phone Moon.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>
>> That's a fascinating exposé! Samsung turning any photo of something it
>> thinks is the moon, however blurred, into one with more detail than
>> could possibly be there.
> []
> I've just come across what looks to be an excellent example:
> https://twitter.com/London_W4/status/1750601342475792617
> Look carefully at the reflection, then think about it!

Upon reflection, I don’t think it is genuine! Still it has been said
before, it is an upside down world.;-)

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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Mike McMillan <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>> In message <HO$WxRrMfmslFwPX@255soft.uk> at Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:53:16,
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>>> 25 Jan 2024 11:59:52, nick <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> writes
>> []
>>>> If it is a Samsung it is probably deciding which are the best colours
>>>> for you. It's a full moon tonight. Try taking a phone picture of it
>>>> then Google for Samsung Phone Moon.
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>
>>> That's a fascinating exposé! Samsung turning any photo of something it
>>> thinks is the moon, however blurred, into one with more detail than
>>> could possibly be there.
>> []
>> I've just come across what looks to be an excellent example:
>> https://twitter.com/London_W4/status/1750601342475792617
>> Look carefully at the reflection, then think about it!
>
> Upon reflection, I don’t think it is genuine! Still it has been said
> before, it is an upside down world.;-)
>

One might have thought (as they obviously didn’t!) that if you are out to
fool others with a fake image, you would be a little less slapdash!

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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 by: Iain Archer - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:00 UTC

On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 21:25:31 +0000, Nick Odell wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:38:38 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"
> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <32031dd109af50b8b0750154e9133acd@www.novabbs.com> at Tue, 23
>>Jan 2024 10:52:30, tonysmith <agsmith578688@gmail.com> writes
>>>Tony Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday 13 December 2023 at 20:22:43 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday 7 December 2023 at 14:11:37 UTC, Tony Smith wrote:
>>>>> > I have just found a pip/stone in a persimmon. This happened once
>>>>> >before and I had intended to plant it and left it on the kitchen
>>>>> >window sill but herself chucked it out. I'll try again.
>>>>> Now planted.
>>>
>>>> A month, and no signs of germination.
>>>
>>>A shoot!
>>
>>A score!
>>
> A Derby winner in 1896!!
>
Just to wish Persimmon 'Pip' Stone as long and successful a life.
--
Iain


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