On 12.12.23 17:50, Iain Archer wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 10:06:12 +0000, krw wrote:
>
>> On 8.12.23 10:10, krw wrote:
>>> On 2.12.23 11:12, krw wrote:
>>>> Good morning
>>>>
>>>> This morning with no warning I have arrived at Thunderbird 115.
>>>>
>>>> Consequently if it is as bad as earlier reports no-one may hear from
>>>> me!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Greater usage as indicated some problems which appear to recur.
>>>
>>> 1.  Greater evidence of getting a header but no content.  Requires
>>> restart of Thunderbird.
>
> I've had to put up with that for a few weeks, using Pan, due just to
> protracted low bandwidth, lately mostly well below 1 Mb/s. Was really
> missing Turnpike. Thankfully, repaired yesterday.
>>>
>>> 2.  Evidence that header and content are from separate messages -
>>> possibly after the above "failed" download.  So I am seeing messages
>>> which are sent by Rosie timed yesterday at 23:18 (referring to 23
>>> degrees - I thought there were only 3) responding to a Mike posting on
>>> latitude timed at 18.47, but the Rosie post is actually twice one of
>>> which is allegedly from Mike.  Total confusion rules.
>>>
> For that fault I think I'd be first wondering about about a momentary system
> glitch rather than software deficiencies.
>>>
>> It has become so bad that this morning I unsubscribed from umra and then
>> re-subscribed. I do not know what was wrong - but it was not like this
>> before.

Since resubscribing the second problem has gone away. I don't think
bandwidth is a problem as since the last run in with Plusnet it usually
shows over 20Mb/s and sometimes 25 Mb/s.

>>
>> I had two portable drives go u/s yesterday, cannot backup this PC and
>> the printer (which had just had all ink cartridges replaced) demanded
>> that I replace them all again.
>
> Have you checked that they're getting sufficient power? I spent a couple of
> days last week thinking I'd lost the portable drive I use for radio downloads.
> It was always doing the repeated double clicks indicating seek failures.
> Eventually I discovered that the USB hub it uses wasn't actually plugged
> into the mains.

One was plugged direct into the PC but I pulled it out with "ejecting" a
few days ago by accident and I think it has fried its electronics - very
annoying. The other one is an SSD I had not used for several years and
no excuse for not working.

>>
>> I am not happy.

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On 13.12.23 14:14, krw wrote:
> On 12.12.23 17:50, Iain Archer wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 10:06:12 +0000, krw wrote:
>>
>>> On 8.12.23 10:10, krw wrote:
>>>> On 2.12.23 11:12, krw wrote:
>>>>> Good morning
>>>>>
>>>>> This morning with no warning I have arrived at Thunderbird 115.
>>>>>
>>>>> Consequently if it is as bad as earlier reports no-one may hear from
>>>>> me!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Greater usage as indicated some problems which appear to recur.
>>>>
>>>> 1.  Greater evidence of getting a header but no content.  Requires
>>>> restart of Thunderbird.
>>
>> I've had to put up with that for a few weeks, using Pan, due just to
>> protracted low bandwidth, lately mostly well below 1 Mb/s.  Was really
>>   missing Turnpike.  Thankfully, repaired yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> 2.  Evidence that header and content are from separate messages -
>>>> possibly after the above "failed" download.  So I am seeing messages
>>>> which are sent by Rosie timed yesterday at 23:18 (referring to 23
>>>> degrees - I thought there were only 3) responding to a Mike posting on
>>>> latitude timed at 18.47, but the Rosie post is actually twice one of
>>>> which is allegedly from Mike.  Total confusion rules.
>>>>
>> For that fault I think I'd be first wondering about about a momentary
>> system
>> glitch rather than software deficiencies.
>>>>
>>> It has become so bad that this morning I unsubscribed from umra and then
>>> re-subscribed.  I do not know what was wrong - but it was not like this
>>> before.
>
> Since resubscribing the second problem has gone away.  I don't think
> bandwidth is a problem as since the last run in with Plusnet it usually
> shows over 20Mb/s and sometimes 25 Mb/s.
>
>
>>>
>>> I had two portable drives go u/s yesterday, cannot backup this PC and
>>> the printer (which had just had all ink cartridges replaced) demanded
>>> that I replace them all again.
>>
>> Have you checked that they're getting sufficient power?  I spent a
>> couple of
>> days last week thinking I'd lost the portable drive I use for radio
>> downloads.
>> It was always doing the repeated double clicks indicating seek failures.
>> Eventually I discovered that the USB hub it uses wasn't actually plugged
>> into the mains.
>
> One was plugged direct into the PC but I pulled it out with "ejecting" a
> few days ago by accident and I think it has fried its electronics - very
> annoying.  The other one is an SSD I had not used for several years and
> no excuse for not working.
>
>
>>>
>>> I am not happy.
>
>

But happier now. Both of the portable drives are working again. I had
to give them each a drive letter but they are now fully working. So
slightly less miffed than before.

--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics

On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 14:14:58 +0000, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:

<snip>
>Since resubscribing the second problem has gone away. I don't think
>bandwidth is a problem as since the last run in with Plusnet it usually
>shows over 20Mb/s and sometimes 25 Mb/s.
<snip>
When I mentioned bandwidth up ^^^^ there somewhere, I was thinking
more of whether the Raspberry Pi - or whatever ES uses as a news
server these days - had the capacity to cope with all the instructions
with which it is probably being constantly deluged.

Nick

On 13.12.23 18:43, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 14:14:58 +0000, krw <krw@whitnet.uk> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>> Since resubscribing the second problem has gone away. I don't think
>> bandwidth is a problem as since the last run in with Plusnet it usually
>> shows over 20Mb/s and sometimes 25 Mb/s.
> <snip>
> When I mentioned bandwidth up ^^^^ there somewhere, I was thinking
> more of whether the Raspberry Pi - or whatever ES uses as a news
> server these days - had the capacity to cope with all the instructions
> with which it is probably being constantly deluged.
>
> Nick

Ah that makes more sense. I gather the new Pi 5 is a lot more powerful.

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