On 07/12/2023 15:43, Paul Carmichael wrote:
>El Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:18:04 +0000, Paul Carmichael escribió:
>
>> My Galaxy s10e has started eating battery and a factory reset hasn't
>> helped.
>
>Since the factory reset (which caused me a ton of grief - email accounts
>lost etc), since 8am the battery has gone down to 64% at 15:40.
>
>Maybe I can delay a tad longer...

Since a recent update, my Samsung battery has been plummeting suspiciously
fast. Seems to be quite common?
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On 09/12/2023 21:26, geoffC wrote:
> On 07/12/2023 15:43, Paul Carmichael wrote:
>> El Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:18:04 +0000, Paul Carmichael escribió:
>>
>>> My Galaxy s10e has started eating battery and a factory reset hasn't
>>> helped.
>>
>> Since the factory reset (which caused me a ton of grief - email
>> accounts lost etc), since 8am the battery has gone down to 64% at 15:40.
>>
>> Maybe I can delay a tad longer...
>
> Since a recent update, my Samsung battery has been plummeting suspiciously
> fast. Seems to be quite common?

Since a recent update, my Pixel 6a has had improved battery life.

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YTC#1 wrote:

> On 09/12/2023 21:26, geoffC wrote:
> > On 07/12/2023 15:43, Paul Carmichael wrote:
> > > El Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:18:04 +0000, Paul Carmichael escribió:
> > >
> > > > My Galaxy s10e has started eating battery and a factory reset
> > > > hasn't helped.
> > >
> > > Since the factory reset (which caused me a ton of grief - email
> > > accounts lost etc), since 8am the battery has gone down to 64% at
> > > 15:40.
> > >
> > > Maybe I can delay a tad longer...
> >
> > Since a recent update, my Samsung battery has been plummeting
> > suspiciously fast. Seems to be quite common?
>
> Since a recent update, my Pixel 6a has had improved battery life.

Never had a Pixel, they cost roughly 2x what an equivalent Samsung
costs. They are obviously better but do you think 2x better?

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El Sat, 09 Dec 2023 21:26:20 +0000, geoffC escribió:

> Since a recent update, my Samsung battery has been plummeting
> suspiciously
> fast. Seems to be quite common?

And mine has a relatively new battery. The original one got fat.

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On Sunday 10 December 2023 at 10:31:39 UTC, GeoffC wrote:
> > Since a recent update, my Pixel 6a has had improved battery life.
> Never had a Pixel, they cost roughly 2x what an equivalent Samsung
> costs. They are obviously better but do you think 2x better?

They really don't, especially the Pixel 'A' series which probably sits alongside the Samsung A series.

Pixel 7A is £449
Samsung A54 also £449.

Pixel 8 Pro is £999
Samsung S23+ is >£1k

On 10/12/2023 15:22, Stephen Packer wrote:
> On Sunday 10 December 2023 at 10:31:39 UTC, GeoffC wrote:
>>> Since a recent update, my Pixel 6a has had improved battery life.
>> Never had a Pixel, they cost roughly 2x what an equivalent Samsung
>> costs. They are obviously better but do you think 2x better?
>
> They really don't, especially the Pixel 'A' series which probably sits alongside the Samsung A series.

Thank you, saved me looking :-)

Anyone that knows me, knows what a cheapskate bargain hunter I am :-)
Also how I like my Android as pure as possible (no extra shite apps like
FB etc installed), hence why I stuck with Motorola so long. But they
went down the pan IMO.

It was a reluctant switch to Pixel, but actually happy with them (just
don't drop a 4a without any protection).

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On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 10:31:35 -0000 (UTC), "GeoffC" <me@invalid.nl>
wrote:

>Never had a Pixel, they cost roughly 2x what an equivalent Samsung
>costs. They are obviously better but do you think 2x better?

Really? As posted elsewhere, my Pixel 6a cost me 300 quid. What sort
of Samsung can you get for 150?
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Champ wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 10:31:35 -0000 (UTC), "GeoffC" <me@invalid.nl>
> wrote:
>
> > Never had a Pixel, they cost roughly 2x what an equivalent Samsung
> > costs. They are obviously better but do you think 2x better?
>
> Really? As posted elsewhere, my Pixel 6a cost me 300 quid. What sort
> of Samsung can you get for 150?

Well yes, my assertion of 2x may have been slightly excessive but you
can get a Samsung A14 128GB here for 205euros, so I hereby revise my
ratio to 1,71x.
So my question becomes 'Is the Pixel 1,71 better'?

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Geoff
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Stephen Packer wrote:

> On Sunday 10 December 2023 at 10:31:39 UTC, GeoffC wrote:
> > > Since a recent update, my Pixel 6a has had improved battery life.
> > Never had a Pixel, they cost roughly 2x what an equivalent Samsung
> > costs. They are obviously better but do you think 2x better?
>
> They really don't, especially the Pixel 'A' series which probably
> sits alongside the Samsung A series.
>
> Pixel 7A is £449
> Samsung A54 also £449.
>
> Pixel 8 Pro is £999
> Samsung S23+ is >£1k

Those look like the rrp. Samsungs here seem to be often discounted
where as the Pixel isn't.

Samsung A14 €205
Samsung A34 €295
Samsung A54 €399

Pixel 7A €439

I've had an A32 for about 2 years now so it'll probably soldier on for
a while. I like other Google stuff I've used eg. Chromecast and like
Bruce I don't like the mandatory extras Samsung put on their phones.
That and the enthousiasm on here for Pixel will probably push me over
the edge to go for a Pixel next time. I just have to get past my inner
cheapskate which baulks at the price.

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Geoff
NTV650

On 11/12/2023 18:27, GeoffC wrote:
> Stephen Packer wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 10 December 2023 at 10:31:39 UTC, GeoffC wrote:
>>>> Since a recent update, my Pixel 6a has had improved battery life.
>>> Never had a Pixel, they cost roughly 2x what an equivalent Samsung
>>> costs. They are obviously better but do you think 2x better?
>>
>> They really don't, especially the Pixel 'A' series which probably
>> sits alongside the Samsung A series.
<snip>
>
> I've had an A32 for about 2 years now so it'll probably soldier on for
> a while. I like other Google stuff I've used eg. Chromecast and like
> Bruce I don't like the mandatory extras Samsung put on their phones.
> That and the enthousiasm on here for Pixel will probably push me over
> the edge to go for a Pixel next time. I just have to get past my inner
> cheapskate which baulks at the price.
>

It's ok, there will be a new favoorite along soon.

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http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 11/12/2023 18:10, GeoffC wrote:
> Champ wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 10:31:35 -0000 (UTC), "GeoffC" <me@invalid.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Never had a Pixel, they cost roughly 2x what an equivalent Samsung
>>> costs. They are obviously better but do you think 2x better?
>>
>> Really? As posted elsewhere, my Pixel 6a cost me 300 quid. What sort
>> of Samsung can you get for 150?
>
> Well yes, my assertion of 2x may have been slightly excessive but you
> can get a Samsung A14 128GB here for 205euros, so I hereby revise my
> ratio to 1,71x.
> So my question becomes 'Is the Pixel 1,71 better'?
>

IMO, yes :-)
When you take size and weight into account, and cores.
How frigging big a screen!

If I had my way, 6" screen would be absolute max

https://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Google-Pixel-6a,Samsung-Galaxy-A14-5G/phones/11859,12080

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=11229&idPhone2=12004

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There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

Stephen Packer <stephen.packer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 6 December 2023 at 17:06:40 UTC, Simon Wilson wrote:
>> On 06/12/2023 15:18, Paul Carmichael wrote:
>> > https://www.amazon.es/SAMSUNG-Graphite-256GB-AMOLED-120HZ/dp/B0BYMQNZ1L/
>> > ref=pd_ci_mcx_pspc_dp_d_1_i_4?pd_rd_i=B0BYMQNZ1L
>>
>>
>> Pass. If it were me I'd try for a Pixel 6a (if you can find one) or 7a.
>
> I'd put my vote behind the Pixel range as well. Only thing I don't like about them is
> sometimes the maintenance lifetime seems to be a little short; especially if compared
> to Apple. This is really something Apple get right, they're still providing patches for
> the iPhone 6S launched in 2015!
>
> Pixels, on the other hand, were launched with three years of security updates, moving
> to five to eight for more recent models. Of course, how many phones last for three
> years without getting lost/broken?
>
> One other comment, if you're used to Samsung's 'skin' on top of Android it might take a little
> getting used to the Pixel interface. Having said all that, once my Pixel 6 dies I'll doubtless
> replace it with a 9/10/whatever if still available. Just whiling away the days until I can get the
> cortex/retinal implants to replace the phone.

My Pixel 2 is still my favorite "around the house" phone AKA
mini tablet. The power button long press bringing up the Google
Home lighting controls is a feature they never should have changed.
And I love the feel of the fabric covered case. I even looked into
having a new battery put in, and flashing Lineage OS on it.

Pixel 4a ... OK. Still have this as my 2nd "house phone".

Pixel 5a ... current phone. Great camera. Has a 2nd (wide angle) lens.

There is really no excuse for not keeping up with security updates
for phones that are still perfectly functional. I get the fact that
the situation with Apple is qualitatively different, but for Google
to stop updating their flagship phones after 3 years never seemed
like much of a selling point to me.

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Paul Carmichael wrote:

> El Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:18:04 +0000, Paul Carmichael escribió:
>
> > My Galaxy s10e has started eating battery and a factory reset hasn't
> > helped.
>
> Since the factory reset (which caused me a ton of grief - email
> accounts lost etc), since 8am the battery has gone down to 64% at
> 15:40.
>
> Maybe I can delay a tad longer...

I couldn't face the hassle of the nuclear option, (factory reset). So I
went for an App Reset (Settings -> Apps -> 3 dots -> Reset app
preferences) and it seems to have worked, battery life is back to
normal now. I wonder, if you do a factory reset, does it then download
and re-install all your apps with the same preferences? If so, then an
app reset is the better option I think.

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Geoff
NTV650