NY <me@privacy.net> writes:

> Shame that there are so many different variants of Android with
> different Settings pages and different apps. You'd think that
> Samsung's own web site "wifi calling" for that model of phone would
> give the correct information, rather than getting you to look at the
> phone's Settings page rather than the phone app's Settings ;-)

I puzzled over why they did this. Maybe because general settings app is
not a Samsung app, whereas the phone app is, by default, so I guess the
developers had some of their own code they wanted to put in there and
found it easier to modify the Samsung app.

If you change to the Google phone app then the only place you can change
wifi calling is on that drop down list of shortcuts.

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:19:00 -0000, "NY" <me@privacy.invalid>
wrote:

>"Tweed" <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Vodafone didn’t used to support SMS over WiFi calling, but claim they now
>> do *on compatible devices*. You probably need to get someone to text you
>> to
>> experiment.
>
>Doesn't seem to work. If I text my wife (both phones on Vodafone, using wifi
>calling at the moment) the text appears to send, but it is never received so
>I imagine it will either have been saved for later delivery when the
>recipient has mobile reception or else it will have gone into a black hole.

Pixel 6a on ASDA mobile. Aeroplane mode on, Wi-Fi on. Sent SMS
to friend on Lebara and friend's reply received. SMS over Wi-Fi
definitely works for me.
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"Roger" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:19:00 -0000, "NY" <me@privacy.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>"Tweed" <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:uot0ki$27a1c$1@dont-email.me...
>>> Vodafone didn't used to support SMS over WiFi calling, but claim they
>>> now
>>> do *on compatible devices*. You probably need to get someone to text you
>>> to
>>> experiment.
>>
>>Doesn't seem to work. If I text my wife (both phones on Vodafone, using
>>wifi
>>calling at the moment) the text appears to send, but it is never received
>>so
>>I imagine it will either have been saved for later delivery when the
>>recipient has mobile reception or else it will have gone into a black
>>hole.
>
> Pixel 6a on ASDA mobile. Aeroplane mode on, Wi-Fi on. Sent SMS
> to friend on Lebara and friend's reply received. SMS over Wi-Fi
> definitely works for me.

Test text to my wife did eventually arrive, a couple of hours after I sent
it, at the same time as a text that had been sent even longer ago as part of
2-factor authorisation (which needs the user to respond within 10 minutes,
so not a great deal of use). Looks as if delivery is in batches rather than
almost as soon as it is sent by the sender.

NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> "Roger" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hgp4ri1s5ovibkhcdiflue06hv2c2db3am@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:19:00 -0000, "NY" <me@privacy.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>"Tweed" <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:uot0ki$27a1c$1@dont-email.me...
> >>> Vodafone didn't used to support SMS over WiFi calling, but claim they
> >>> now
> >>> do *on compatible devices*. You probably need to get someone to text you
> >>> to
> >>> experiment.
> >>
> >>Doesn't seem to work. If I text my wife (both phones on Vodafone, using
> >>wifi
> >>calling at the moment) the text appears to send, but it is never received
> >>so
> >>I imagine it will either have been saved for later delivery when the
> >>recipient has mobile reception or else it will have gone into a black
> >>hole.
> >
> > Pixel 6a on ASDA mobile. Aeroplane mode on, Wi-Fi on. Sent SMS
> > to friend on Lebara and friend's reply received. SMS over Wi-Fi
> > definitely works for me.
>
> Test text to my wife did eventually arrive, a couple of hours after I sent
> it, at the same time as a text that had been sent even longer ago as part of
> 2-factor authorisation (which needs the user to respond within 10 minutes,
> so not a great deal of use). Looks as if delivery is in batches rather than
> almost as soon as it is sent by the sender.

Years ago I was at a festival and a friend sent me a text on Friday
afternoon to say she had left my spare keys at the campsite steward's
caravan. The message arrived on Sunday morning, by which time I had
gone home, the festival had finished, the campsite had been cleared,
the stewards had gone home and the caravan had been returned to the
hirers.

I never found the keys and had to have another set cut at considerable
expense.

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:27:09 -0000, "NY" <me@privacy.invalid>
wrote:

>"Roger" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:19:00 -0000, "NY" <me@privacy.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Tweed" <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:uot0ki$27a1c$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> Vodafone didn't used to support SMS over WiFi calling, but claim they
>>>> now
>>>> do *on compatible devices*. You probably need to get someone to text you
>>>> to
>>>> experiment.
>>>
>>>Doesn't seem to work. If I text my wife (both phones on Vodafone, using
>>>wifi
>>>calling at the moment) the text appears to send, but it is never received
>>>so
>>>I imagine it will either have been saved for later delivery when the
>>>recipient has mobile reception or else it will have gone into a black
>>>hole.
>>
>> Pixel 6a on ASDA mobile. Aeroplane mode on, Wi-Fi on. Sent SMS
>> to friend on Lebara and friend's reply received. SMS over Wi-Fi
>> definitely works for me.
>
>Test text to my wife did eventually arrive, a couple of hours after I sent
>it, at the same time as a text that had been sent even longer ago as part of
>2-factor authorisation (which needs the user to respond within 10 minutes,
>so not a great deal of use). Looks as if delivery is in batches rather than
>almost as soon as it is sent by the sender.

There was only 6 minutes between me sending an SMS and receiving
the reply. The delivery report came back within a few seconds so
the delay can be explained by the recipient being unable to
reply any faster.
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On 25/01/2024 13:19, NY wrote:
> "Tweed" <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uot0ki$27a1c$1@dont-email.me...
>> Vodafone didn’t used to support SMS over WiFi calling, but claim they now
>> do *on compatible devices*. You probably need to get someone to text
>> you to
>> experiment.
>
> Doesn't seem to work. If I text my wife (both phones on Vodafone, using
> wifi calling at the moment) the text appears to send, but it is never
> received so I imagine it will either have been saved for later delivery
> when the recipient has mobile reception or else it will have gone into a
> black hole.
>
> Bad news if either of us need to use text for two-factor authorisation.
Odd. My phone will switch to wifi calling randomly at various places in
the house and Ive never had lost text messages

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NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> "Roger" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hgp4ri1s5ovibkhcdiflue06hv2c2db3am@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:19:00 -0000, "NY" <me@privacy.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Tweed" <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uot0ki$27a1c$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> Vodafone didn't used to support SMS over WiFi calling, but claim they
>>>> now
>>>> do *on compatible devices*. You probably need to get someone to text you
>>>> to
>>>> experiment.
>>>
>>> Doesn't seem to work. If I text my wife (both phones on Vodafone, using
>>> wifi
>>> calling at the moment) the text appears to send, but it is never received
>>> so
>>> I imagine it will either have been saved for later delivery when the
>>> recipient has mobile reception or else it will have gone into a black
>>> hole.
>>
>> Pixel 6a on ASDA mobile. Aeroplane mode on, Wi-Fi on. Sent SMS
>> to friend on Lebara and friend's reply received. SMS over Wi-Fi
>> definitely works for me.
>
> Test text to my wife did eventually arrive, a couple of hours after I sent
> it, at the same time as a text that had been sent even longer ago as part of
> 2-factor authorisation (which needs the user to respond within 10 minutes,
> so not a great deal of use). Looks as if delivery is in batches rather than
> almost as soon as it is sent by the sender.
>
>

Are enough sure this isn’t due to your phone getting a sniff of a cell site
signal?

Its not thephones, at least most of the time, its the grotty reception on
the network that gradually gets errors until its unintelligible and then
goes off.
I have heard some very good ones when they are close to a tower.
Brian

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"Liz Tuddenham" <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Is there a mobile 'phone on the market that gives even reasonable sound
> quality.?
>
> I have tested a fairly high-end Apple 'phone and a bottom-of-the-range
> Argos 'phone, they both give atrocious sound when heard on a good
> quality landline. I have yet to hear a mobile 'phone that didn't sound
> so bad that some of the speech was verging on unintelligible, cutting
> off the beginnings of words and lapsing into 'drainpipe' noises.
>
> Obviously I can't test the whole range that is on offer, but has anyone
> come across a decent one?
>
>
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It is true that when a land line bottle neck occurs you get limited
bandwidth. I hear it at my Councils phones. However the boiled excrement
garbled sound seems to be that the mobile system is struggling with
multipath and other errors due to poor coverage. There is a notorious place
in Kingston Upon Thames inside a centre where this has always happened. It
really needs an indoor cell, but who pays for that?
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"The Natural Philosopher" <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 22/01/2024 19:19, Scott wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 18:53:37 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Liz Tuddenham wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have tested a fairly high-end Apple 'phone and a bottom-of-the-range
>>>> Argos 'phone, they both give atrocious sound when heard on a good
>>>> quality landline.
>>>
>>> How's the quality mobile to mobile?
>>>
>>> I believe EE to EE calls and Three to Three calls should use wideband
>>> codecs, so could sound better than a landline ...
>>>
>> As an aside (which should maybe be a new thread) how does VOIP compare
>> with mobile and 'landline'.
>
> in my admittedly limited experience, far better than either. There is
> simply more bandwidth and there is no noise at all.
>
>
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> only in others..."
>
> Tom Wolfe
>

On 26/01/2024 13:53, Brian Gaff wrote:
> It is true that when a land line bottle neck occurs you get limited
> bandwidth. I hear it at my Councils phones. However the boiled excrement
> garbled sound seems to be that the mobile system is struggling with
> multipath and other errors due to poor coverage. There is a notorious place
> in Kingston Upon Thames inside a centre where this has always happened. It
> really needs an indoor cell, but who pays for that?
> Brian
>
That's the *point* of wifi calling. It's dirt cheap to add a local
*free* wifi point to enable cellular calls to be sent and recieved.

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Of course one thing with mobiles that seems counter intuative is that they
no longer have external aerials. Its not a good move to expect it to work
while you are in fact holding the antenna is it?
Brian

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"Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Its not thephones, at least most of the time, its the grotty reception on
> the network that gradually gets errors until its unintelligible and then
> goes off.
> I have heard some very good ones when they are close to a tower.
> Brian
>
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> "Liz Tuddenham" <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>> Is there a mobile 'phone on the market that gives even reasonable sound
>> quality.?
>>
>> I have tested a fairly high-end Apple 'phone and a bottom-of-the-range
>> Argos 'phone, they both give atrocious sound when heard on a good
>> quality landline. I have yet to hear a mobile 'phone that didn't sound
>> so bad that some of the speech was verging on unintelligible, cutting
>> off the beginnings of words and lapsing into 'drainpipe' noises.
>>
>> Obviously I can't test the whole range that is on offer, but has anyone
>> come across a decent one?
>>
>>
>> --
>> ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
>> (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
>> www.poppyrecords.co.uk
>
>