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Pedestrian Helmets

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 by: Mike Collins - Sat, 27 May 2023 09:52 UTC

https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/

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 by: Spike - Sat, 27 May 2023 10:08 UTC

Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:

> https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/

Have a lie-in today, did we?

--
Spike

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sat, 27 May 2023 10:28 UTC

On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 10:52:07 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
> https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/

Don't forget these:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kSNVKrktKUQ/ShMeZqy03oI/AAAAAAAADgA/EtMTMQSK2xs/s400/Motoring+Helmet+face.jpg

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 by: Mike Collins - Sat, 27 May 2023 16:42 UTC

On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
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> Have a lie-in today, did we?
>
> --
> Spike
Is there a point you are failing to make?

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 by: Spike - Sat, 27 May 2023 17:34 UTC

Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
>>>
>>
>> Have a lie-in today, did we?
>>
>> --
>> Spike
> Is there a point you are failing to make?

There is a point you’re failing to grasp.

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Spike

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sat, 27 May 2023 17:38 UTC

On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 5:42:51 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

> Is there a point you are failing to make?

Drivers need these too.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kSNVKrktKUQ/S-MTd80pJpI/AAAAAAAAEwg/VwRmwAfLMOE/s400/driving+without+dying.jpg

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 by: Mike Collins - Sat, 27 May 2023 21:42 UTC

On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
> >>>
> >>
> >> Have a lie-in today, did we?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Spike
> > Is there a point you are failing to make?
> There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
>
> --
> Spike

So enlighten me
Docendo discimus

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 by: Spike - Sat, 27 May 2023 21:58 UTC

Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have a lie-in today, did we?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Spike
>>> Is there a point you are failing to make?
>> There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
>>
>> --
>> Spike
>
> So enlighten me
> Docendo discimus

ICBA

--
Spike

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 by: Mike Collins - Sat, 27 May 2023 22:20 UTC

On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 23:00:40 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Have a lie-in today, did we?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Spike
> >>> Is there a point you are failing to make?
> >> There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Spike
> >
> > So enlighten me
> > Docendo discimus
> ICBA
>
> --
> Spike
So you have no point.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Sun, 28 May 2023 05:45 UTC

On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:38:53 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 5:42:51 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> > Is there a point you are failing to make?

Fun for all the family:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN7HH4YXAAAu0W4.jpg

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 by: Spike - Sun, 28 May 2023 08:12 UTC

Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 23:00:40 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have a lie-in today, did we?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Spike
>>>>> Is there a point you are failing to make?
>>>> There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Spike
>>>
>>> So enlighten me
>>> Docendo discimus
>> ICBA
>>
>> --
>> Spike
> So you have no point.

Your logic trail seems never to fail to amaze.

--
Spike

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 by: Mike Collins - Mon, 29 May 2023 09:11 UTC

On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 09:12:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 23:00:40 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Have a lie-in today, did we?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Spike
> >>>>> Is there a point you are failing to make?
> >>>> There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Spike
> >>>
> >>> So enlighten me
> >>> Docendo discimus
> >> ICBA
> >>
> >> --
> >> Spike
> > So you have no point.
> Your logic trail seems never to fail to amaze.
>
> --
> Spike

As I said, if I have erred in some way I am willing to learn from my mistakes.
The fact that you are unwilling to reveal where you think I am in error tells me you don't know and have no point to make.

Feel free to prove me wrong by citing your point.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Mon, 29 May 2023 09:45 UTC

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:45:07 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:38:53 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 5:42:51 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
> >
> > > Is there a point you are failing to make?
> Fun for all the family:
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN7HH4YXAAAu0W4.jpg

Can't do anything to prevent brain death from going from 70mph to 0 mph in an instant though.

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 by: Spike - Mon, 29 May 2023 10:11 UTC

Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 09:12:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 23:00:40 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have a lie-in today, did we?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Spike
>>>>>>> Is there a point you are failing to make?
>>>>>> There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Spike
>>>>>
>>>>> So enlighten me
>>>>> Docendo discimus
>>>> ICBA
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Spike
>>> So you have no point.
>> Your logic trail seems never to fail to amaze.
>>
>> --
>> Spike
>
> As I said, if I have erred in some way I am willing to learn from my mistakes.

You see, that’s flawed logic right there.

Having a lie-in is not necessarily a mistake.

> The fact that you are unwilling to reveal where you think I am in error
> tells me you don't know and have no point to make.

> Feel free to prove me wrong by citing your point.

I’ve just proved you’re logic trail was wrong.

--
Spike

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 by: Mike Collins - Mon, 29 May 2023 10:19 UTC

On Monday, 29 May 2023 at 11:13:24 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 09:12:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 23:00:40 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Have a lie-in today, did we?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Spike
> >>>>>>> Is there a point you are failing to make?
> >>>>>> There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Spike
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So enlighten me
> >>>>> Docendo discimus
> >>>> ICBA
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Spike
> >>> So you have no point.
> >> Your logic trail seems never to fail to amaze.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Spike
> >
> > As I said, if I have erred in some way I am willing to learn from my mistakes.
> You see, that’s flawed logic right there.
>
> Having a lie-in is not necessarily a mistake.
> > The fact that you are unwilling to reveal where you think I am in error
> > tells me you don't know and have no point to make.
>
> > Feel free to prove me wrong by citing your point.
> I’ve just proved you’re logic trail was wrong.
>
>
> --
> Spike

So you are not mature enough to admit you have no point.

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 by: Spike - Mon, 29 May 2023 10:28 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:45:07 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 6:38:53 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 5:42:51 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a point you are failing to make?
>> Fun for all the family:
>>
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN7HH4YXAAAu0W4.jpg

> Can't do anything to prevent brain death from going from 70mph to 0 mph
> in an instant though.

Do a teensy bit of research into the rocket-sled experiments of the 1940s
and 1950s, that were designed to test the limits of human endurance as part
of the trials to determine what a future astronaut might need to withstand.

This should provide some info of interest:

<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stapp>

--
Spike

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 by: Spike - Mon, 29 May 2023 10:46 UTC

Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, 29 May 2023 at 11:13:24 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 09:12:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 23:00:40 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have a lie-in today, did we?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Spike
>>>>>>>>> Is there a point you are failing to make?
>>>>>>>> There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Spike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So enlighten me
>>>>>>> Docendo discimus
>>>>>> ICBA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Spike
>>>>> So you have no point.
>>>> Your logic trail seems never to fail to amaze.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Spike
>>>
>>> As I said, if I have erred in some way I am willing to learn from my mistakes.
>> You see, that’s flawed logic right there.
>>
>> Having a lie-in is not necessarily a mistake.
>>> The fact that you are unwilling to reveal where you think I am in error
>>> tells me you don't know and have no point to make.
>>
>>> Feel free to prove me wrong by citing your point.
>> I’ve just proved you’re logic trail was wrong.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Spike
>
> So you are not mature enough to admit you have no point.

Nelson got away with putting the telescope to his blind eye, but that
technique isn’t working for you.

--
Spike

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Mon, 29 May 2023 11:04 UTC

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 10:45:23 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN7HH4YXAAAu0W4.jpg
> Can't do anything to prevent brain death from going from 70mph to 0 mph in an instant though.

Whiplash is a neck injury due to forceful, rapid back-and-forth movement of the neck, like the cracking of a whip. Whiplash is commonly caused by rear-end car accidents. But whiplash can also result from sports accidents, physical abuse and other types of traumas, such as a fall.

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 by: Spike - Mon, 29 May 2023 12:32 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

> Whiplash is a neck injury due to forceful, rapid back-and-forth movement
> of the neck, like the cracking of a whip. Whiplash is commonly caused by
> rear-end car accidents. But whiplash can also result from sports
> accidents, physical abuse and other types of traumas, such as a fall.

So whiplash is a risk for cyclists too.

--
Spike

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Mon, 29 May 2023 12:43 UTC

When car accidents occur, even at slow speeds, they can cause soft tissue injuries to drivers and passengers, like whiplash. We hear about whiplash so much that it maybe makes it seem as though it’s a minor injury, but that isn’t the case. Whiplash can be very painful, and, as it turns out, a sign of more serious injuries, including traumatic brain injuries..

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 by: Spike - Mon, 29 May 2023 13:08 UTC

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
> When car accidents occur, even at slow speeds, they can cause soft tissue
> injuries to drivers and passengers, like whiplash. We hear about whiplash
> so much that it maybe makes it seem as though it’s a minor injury, but
> that isn’t the case. Whiplash can be very painful, and, as it turns out,
> a sign of more serious injuries, including traumatic brain injuries.

How do car accidents compare on the whiplash front, with deliberates such a
jumping from a bridge?

--
Spike

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 by: Mike Collins - Mon, 29 May 2023 13:08 UTC

On Monday, 29 May 2023 at 11:48:15 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, 29 May 2023 at 11:13:24 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 09:12:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 23:00:40 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 18:37:12 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 27 May 2023 at 11:10:37 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Mike Collins <cmik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/the-unanswerable-case-for-pedestrian-helmets/
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Have a lie-in today, did we?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Spike
> >>>>>>>>> Is there a point you are failing to make?
> >>>>>>>> There is a point you’re failing to grasp.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Spike
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So enlighten me
> >>>>>>> Docendo discimus
> >>>>>> ICBA
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Spike
> >>>>> So you have no point.
> >>>> Your logic trail seems never to fail to amaze.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Spike
> >>>
> >>> As I said, if I have erred in some way I am willing to learn from my mistakes.
> >> You see, that’s flawed logic right there.
> >>
> >> Having a lie-in is not necessarily a mistake.
> >>> The fact that you are unwilling to reveal where you think I am in error
> >>> tells me you don't know and have no point to make.
> >>
> >>> Feel free to prove me wrong by citing your point.
> >> I’ve just proved you’re logic trail was wrong.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Spike
> >
> > So you are not mature enough to admit you have no point.
> Nelson got away with putting the telescope to his blind eye, but that
> technique isn’t working for you.
>
> --
> Spike

So you are still not mature enough to admit you have no point.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Mon, 29 May 2023 15:20 UTC

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 1:43:46 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> When car accidents occur, even at slow speeds, they can cause soft tissue injuries to drivers and passengers, like whiplash. We hear about whiplash so much that it maybe makes it seem as though it’s a minor injury, but that isn’t the case. Whiplash can be very painful, and, as it turns out, a sign of more serious injuries, including traumatic brain injuries.

Whiplash is associated with having an accident in a car, causing the driver's neck to move forward and backwards like a whip. Usually these accidents occur at low speed; most people don't see a doctor as they don't think anything is wrong. But soon after the accident, they may start noticing pain in their head, neck and jaw. This family of symptoms is called whiplash-associated disorder, and it is notoriously difficult to diagnose.

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Subject: Re: Pedestrian Helmets
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 by: JNugent - Mon, 29 May 2023 16:04 UTC

On 29/05/2023 04:20 pm, swldx...@gmail.com...

....pretending not to answer others, says

> On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 1:43:46 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>> When car accidents occur, even at slow speeds, they can cause soft tissue injuries to drivers and passengers, like whiplash. We hear about whiplash so much that it maybe makes it seem as though it’s a minor injury, but that isn’t the case. Whiplash can be very painful, and, as it turns out, a sign of more serious injuries, including traumatic brain injuries.

> Whiplash is associated with having an accident in a car, causing the driver's neck to move forward and backwards like a whip. Usually these accidents occur at low speed; most people don't see a doctor as they don't think anything is wrong. But soon after the accident, they may start noticing pain in their head, neck and jaw. This family of symptoms is called whiplash-associated disorder, and it is notoriously difficult to diagnose.

You mean it is notoriously difficult to disprove when an insurance claim
sets in.

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 by: swldx...@gmail.com - Mon, 29 May 2023 16:09 UTC

Whiplash is neck injury caused by sudden, vigorous head movement in one direction, then back again quickly, often caused during a motor vehicle accident.
You may just feel uncomfortable on the day of the injury, while your pain, swelling and bruising may increase over the following days.
Your symptoms are likely to improve over about one week, but some people take longer to recover.
Whiplash injury affects soft tissue, so it doesn’t show up on x-rays.
If your neck pain is the result of a motor vehicle accident or another injury, see your doctor.

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