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* Of course trans people have rights but not the right to colonise women's sportEddie Moton Jr.
`* Re: Of course trans people have rights but not the right to colonise women's spoKlaus Schadenfreude
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  ||  |`* Re: Of course trans people have rights but not the right to coloniseSiri Cruise
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  ||  `* Re: Of course trans people have rights but not the right to coloniseJust Wondering
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  ||   `- Re: Of course trans people have rights but not the right to colonise women's spoGovernor Swill
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 by: Siri Cruise - Mon, 29 May 2023 16:41 UTC

Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Sun, 28 May 2023 18:34:15 -0700, Siri Cruise
> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Sun, 28 May 2023 08:08:53 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 28 May 2023 06:30:23 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 27 May 2023 23:17:57 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 27 May 2023 23:05:21 -0000 (UTC), "Eddie Moton Jr."
>>>>>>>>> <eddiemotonjr@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Emily Bridges’ evisceration of British Cycling, accusing the governing
>>>>>>>>>> body of “furthering a genocide” by denying those born male the right to
>>>>>>>>>> ride competitively against women, is a classic of its oeuvre.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm OK with a minimum number of trans people dying because they can't
>>>>>>>>> ride in the division that doesn't correspond with their actual sex.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's set it at, oh, say, 100.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is a pregnant person with XY chromosomes a man or a woman?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How come Democrats have SUCH trouble figuring out what a woman is?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so easy, why no answer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Aw, Siri's upset I don't want to play with her strawman.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or is it straw woman?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is a pregnant straw person with XY chromosomes a straw man or a
>>>> straw woman?
>>>
>>> With Democrats, it's hard to tell.
>>>
>>
>> Democrats might respond with that's the point. Thank erisness
>> you're not wishy washy like democrats, and you can give gay answers.
>
> Only a Democrat would find a pregnant woman odd.
>

Your conclusion is XY chromosomes make you a woman. We need to
stop sll these women in mens sports.

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 by: Siri Cruise - Mon, 29 May 2023 16:46 UTC

Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Mon, 29 May 2023 01:37:32 -0400, Governor Swill
> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 28 May 2023 13:04:42 +0100, soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How are you going to find a pregnant person with XY chromosones?
>>> XY are generally male and do not have a uterus.
>>> Swyer syndrome females (which have XY chromosones) never (never say
>>> never) get pregnant
>>
>> Yes, they do.
>
> Explain how please.
>
> People with Swyer syndrome have female external genitalia and some
> female internal reproductive structures. These individuals usually
> have a uterus and fallopian tubes, but their gonads (ovaries or
> testes) are not functional.
> https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/swyer-syndrome/
>

It's almost like simple answers are wrong.

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 by: Klaus Schadenfreude - Mon, 29 May 2023 16:53 UTC

On Mon, 29 May 2023 09:41:36 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 May 2023 18:34:15 -0700, Siri Cruise
>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 28 May 2023 08:08:53 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 28 May 2023 06:30:23 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 27 May 2023 23:17:57 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 27 May 2023 23:05:21 -0000 (UTC), "Eddie Moton Jr."
>>>>>>>>>> <eddiemotonjr@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Emily Bridges’ evisceration of British Cycling, accusing the governing
>>>>>>>>>>> body of “furthering a genocide” by denying those born male the right to
>>>>>>>>>>> ride competitively against women, is a classic of its oeuvre.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm OK with a minimum number of trans people dying because they can't
>>>>>>>>>> ride in the division that doesn't correspond with their actual sex.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let's set it at, oh, say, 100.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is a pregnant person with XY chromosomes a man or a woman?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How come Democrats have SUCH trouble figuring out what a woman is?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If so easy, why no answer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aw, Siri's upset I don't want to play with her strawman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or is it straw woman?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is a pregnant straw person with XY chromosomes a straw man or a
>>>>> straw woman?
>>>>
>>>> With Democrats, it's hard to tell.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Democrats might respond with that's the point. Thank erisness
>>> you're not wishy washy like democrats, and you can give gay answers.
>>
>> Only a Democrat would find a pregnant woman odd.
>>
>
>Your conclusion is XY chromosomes make you a woman. We need to
>stop sll these women in mens sports.

Note that "trans" women have not tried to get into men's sports, only
the other way around.

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 by: Just Wondering - Mon, 29 May 2023 22:12 UTC

On 5/28/2023 11:36 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sun, 28 May 2023 14:07:10 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:
>
>> Give them this handy hint: If an adult person was born with
>> female reproductive organs, that person is a woman. Then
>> show them this movie clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H_-bA-Ww5U
>
> What about when that person has XY chromosomes?
>
Male/female, man/woman is determined at a macro biological level.

If an adult person was born with female reproductive organs
she is a woman. If she has XY chromosomes you won't know
it without a fairly sophisticated laboratory test, which
would only show she is a woman with rare a genetic mutation.

But that is a rarity. If a person "identifies as a woman"
but was born with male reproductive organs, he is a man
not a woman, and proclaiming "I am woman" does not make
it so.

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 by: Just Wondering - Mon, 29 May 2023 22:21 UTC

On 5/28/2023 11:38 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sun, 28 May 2023 14:09:50 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:
>>
>> It does not require genetic testing. It is basic biology
>> at a macro level. Barring gross genetic birth defects,
>> men have male reproductive systems and women have female
>> reproductive systems. This is true regardless of how
>> a person thinks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H_-bA-Ww5U
>
> Then you're being ignorant on purpose? Science has moved on
> past, "does it have a dick or not?"
>
So says the science denier in this discussion.
The reality is this:
Man: a person with male primary sex characteristics
aka an adult male person.
Woman: a person with female primary sex characteristics
aka an adult female person.
Transwoman: a male with mental health problems.
Transman: a female with mental health problems.
"identifies as" : pretends to be, does not change
biological facts.

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 by: Josh Rosenbluth - Mon, 29 May 2023 22:52 UTC

On 5/29/2023 3:21 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 5/28/2023 11:38 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 May 2023 14:09:50 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>
>>> It does not require genetic testing.  It is basic biology
>>> at a macro level.  Barring gross genetic birth defects,
>>> men have male reproductive systems and women have female
>>> reproductive systems.  This is true regardless of how
>>> a person thinks.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H_-bA-Ww5U
>>
>> Then you're being ignorant on purpose?  Science has moved on
>> past, "does it have a dick or not?"
>>
> So says the science denier in this discussion.
> The reality is this:
> Man:   a person with male primary sex characteristics
>        aka an adult male person.
> Woman: a person with female primary sex characteristics
>        aka an adult female person.

Those definitions are a matter of opinion. not a scientific fact.

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[Default] On Mon, 29 May 2023 15:52:55 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
<noway@nowhere.com> typed:

>On 5/29/2023 3:21 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 5/28/2023 11:38 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Sun, 28 May 2023 14:09:50 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It does not require genetic testing.  It is basic biology
>>>> at a macro level.  Barring gross genetic birth defects,
>>>> men have male reproductive systems and women have female
>>>> reproductive systems.  This is true regardless of how
>>>> a person thinks.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H_-bA-Ww5U
>>>
>>> Then you're being ignorant on purpose?  Science has moved on
>>> past, "does it have a dick or not?"
>>>
>> So says the science denier in this discussion.
>> The reality is this:
>> Man:   a person with male primary sex characteristics
>>        aka an adult male person.
>> Woman: a person with female primary sex characteristics
>>        aka an adult female person.
>
>Those definitions are a matter of opinion. not a scientific fact.

Yes, it's scientific fact.

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 by: Jimmy Chinda - Mon, 29 May 2023 23:12 UTC

On 5/29/2023 3:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
> On 5/29/2023 3:21 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 5/28/2023 11:38 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Sun, 28 May 2023 14:09:50 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It does not require genetic testing.  It is basic biology
>>>> at a macro level.  Barring gross genetic birth defects,
>>>> men have male reproductive systems and women have female
>>>> reproductive systems.  This is true regardless of how
>>>> a person thinks.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H_-bA-Ww5U
>>>
>>> Then you're being ignorant on purpose?  Science has moved on
>>> past, "does it have a dick or not?"
>>>
>> So says the science denier in this discussion.
>> The reality is this:
>> Man:   a person with male primary sex characteristics
>>         aka an adult male person.
>> Woman: a person with female primary sex characteristics
>>         aka an adult female person.
>
> Those definitions are a matter of opinion.

They are objective facts.

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 by: Penn Foster - Mon, 29 May 2023 23:15 UTC

Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote in
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> On 5/28/2023 11:36 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 May 2023 14:07:10 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:
>>
>>> Give them this handy hint: If an adult person was born with
>>> female reproductive organs, that person is a woman. Then
>>> show them this movie clip:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H_-bA-Ww5U
>>
>> What about when that person has XY chromosomes?
>>
> Male/female, man/woman is determined at a macro biological level.
>
> If an adult person was born with female reproductive organs
> she is a woman. If she has XY chromosomes you won't know
> it without a fairly sophisticated laboratory test, which
> would only show she is a woman with rare a genetic mutation.
>
> But that is a rarity. If a person "identifies as a woman"
> but was born with male reproductive organs, he is a man
> not a woman, and proclaiming "I am woman" does not make
> it so.

Correct. Any "medical professional" who says otherwise should have
their medical credentials revoked.

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 by: Penn Foster - Mon, 29 May 2023 23:18 UTC

Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in news:u53ac9$1mdmn$1@dont-
email.me:

> On 5/29/2023 3:21 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 5/28/2023 11:38 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Sun, 28 May 2023 14:09:50 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It does not require genetic testing.  It is basic biology
>>>> at a macro level.  Barring gross genetic birth defects,
>>>> men have male reproductive systems and women have female
>>>> reproductive systems.  This is true regardless of how
>>>> a person thinks.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H_-bA-Ww5U
>>>
>>> Then you're being ignorant on purpose?  Science has moved on
>>> past, "does it have a dick or not?"
>>>
>> So says the science denier in this discussion.
>> The reality is this:
>> Man:   a person with male primary sex characteristics
>>        aka an adult male person.
>> Woman: a person with female primary sex characteristics
>>        aka an adult female person.
>
> Those definitions are a matter of opinion. not a scientific fact.

Unless you are from Mars, they are long established natural facts for
thousands of years. Even neanderthals knew the difference between men and
women.

Are you implying the current generation of woke liberals is so
biologically ignorant that they don't know the difference?

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 by: Governor Swill - Tue, 30 May 2023 01:35 UTC

On Mon, 29 May 2023 16:21:06 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

>On 5/28/2023 11:38 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 May 2023 14:09:50 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>
>>> It does not require genetic testing. It is basic biology
>>> at a macro level. Barring gross genetic birth defects,
>>> men have male reproductive systems and women have female
>>> reproductive systems. This is true regardless of how
>>> a person thinks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H_-bA-Ww5U
>>
>> Then you're being ignorant on purpose? Science has moved on
>> past, "does it have a dick or not?"
>>
>So says the science denier in this discussion.
>The reality is this:
>Man: a person with male primary sex characteristics
> aka an adult male person.
>Woman: a person with female primary sex characteristics
> aka an adult female person.
>Transwoman: a male with mental health problems.
>Transman: a female with mental health problems.
>"identifies as" : pretends to be, does not change
>biological facts.

ROTFLMAO! Calling anybody else a 'science denier'! ROTFL!

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 by: Governor Swill - Tue, 30 May 2023 01:37 UTC

On Mon, 29 May 2023 23:18:27 -0000 (UTC), Penn Foster <pfoster@outlook.com> wrote:

>Unless you are from Mars, they are long established natural facts for
>thousands of years. Even neanderthals knew the difference between men and
>women.
>
>Are you implying the current generation of woke liberals is so
>biologically ignorant that they don't know the difference?

Are you saying that Neanderthal science was the equivalent of our own? That it is not
possible to learn anything new about human biology because Neanderthals already had it all
figured out?

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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